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32. Anarchist |   Link |  Bookmark | March 9, 2018 3:36:05 PM (500+ Posts, 1400+ Likes)
WoW !! This ''BHARAT'' IPO looks almost attractive to me... Could have been better though if they had offered a discount of 500 Rs. on this 400 Rupee. stock ...

I mean P/E, RONW and all is one thing and promoter reputation is another and to few, the latter matters a great deal. When damp squibs like GIC, NIA, SBILife IPOs or NFL, NMDC FPOs could wreak havoc, who would dare to get hit by a missile?
31. Cool Sunshine |   Link |  Bookmark | March 9, 2018 2:02:39 PM
Lockheed Martin, Rockwell Collins, Northrop Grumman, Raytheon are world leaders in their domain and also there customers are worldwide. Their products range and capabilities are enormous. Is BDL anywhere comparable?

Bharat Dynamics have been operating mostly as captive supplier to Indian Army in a protected environment where most of times there may not be even competitive bidding and tendering. With very high fiscal deficit and election year how much of current order book finally materializes in a time bound manner is going to be questionable.

31.1. guptahitz |   Link |  Bookmark | March 9, 2018 2:28:44 PM
The names that you mentioned are not Indian companies and the fact is that Bharat dynamics has some sort of monopoly as far as Indian market is considered. As you have rightly mentioned that Bharat Dynamics have been operating mostly as captive supplier to Indian Army in a protected environment. This itself makes a good case to apply for this IPO.

31.2. Cool Sunshine |   Link |  Bookmark | March 9, 2018 2:42:04 PM
More pertinent point to ponder is....can a captive company command same valuation as a world leader company?

Coal India also had virtual monopoly at the time of IPO.

Performing as a unlisted captive company and performing as a listed commercial company are two completely different operating environment for any organization.

30. IPOANALYSIS |   Link |  Bookmark | March 9, 2018 9:18:23 AM
No use to apply for this ipo. Ca get it at same or below issue price on listing day. All retail participant should boycott new ipo. Only apply in ipo which leave atleast 15 pc on table else it''s waste of time and money to apply on fully price ipo
29. Sammy ipo |   Link |  Bookmark | March 8, 2018 10:17:26 PM
Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd IPO
Date :16-20 March
28. Aniketiaf |   Link |  Bookmark | March 8, 2018 6:04:05 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (1800+ Posts, 10200+ Likes)
Gmp of Bandhan bank is 20-22.
Gmp of Bharat Dynamics is 26-28.
27. Bhallal dev |   Link |  Bookmark | March 8, 2018 2:36:16 PM
GMP

HG - (4-5)
BB - 10 - 12
BD - 12 - 14
KC - ?
27.2. Bhallal dev |   Link |  Bookmark | March 8, 2018 3:30:53 PM
It should not be discouraging to you as you always sell all your applications in kostak.Confirmed Profit.
27.3. harit |   Link |  Bookmark | March 8, 2018 3:54:11 PM
@bhallaldev ji
U r right
I sell advance but low subscription turns into higher allotment and I have to pay brokerage more
????
26. sundark |   Link |  Bookmark | March 8, 2018 2:56:02 PM
Recently read this post in Sunday Guardian .

Guys be warned about this.

http://www.sundayguardianlive.com/news/12638-cabal-plans-october-meltdown-share-prices-rout-bjp
25. Cool Sunshine |   Link |  Bookmark | March 7, 2018 8:54:26 PM
A charity given by gov in form of INR 10 discount on a share of INR 428 will definitely make retail investors encouraged to throng for this IPO enmasse. It may not benefit retail investors but will definitely fill gov coffers. We small investors have a short memory and refuse to learn from past. We may not earn anything but will continue to make all gov IPOs successful. Gov knows how to fool us and that is why a wonderful and amazing discount of INR 10.

I believe this INR 10 discount is an insult to retail investors and shows that gov is taking us all for granted.
25.2. guptahitz |   Link |  Bookmark | March 8, 2018 11:21:34 AM
As it is not mandatory for all to apply for an IPO, it is wrong to say that government is taking retail investor for granted
25.3. Cool Sunshine |   Link |  Bookmark | March 8, 2018 11:52:58 AM
Apologies. Let me rephrase this a bit.

Gov has packaged and marketed this IPO well with an amazing, wonderful and very enticing INR 10 (less than 3%) discount ensuring nothing on the table for short term for risk taking retail investors while DISCOUNT (in bold letters) will ensure that we all throng to apply enmasse filling gov coffers and completing gov divestment targets. Kudos to gov.
24. Mumbai DON |   Link |  Bookmark | March 8, 2018 11:39:11 AM (200+ Posts, 200+ Likes)
*Karda Construction IPO*
Sector - *Construction*
Dt.16-03-2018 toh 21-03-2018
Issue Size : Rs. 774 crore
Price Band : Rs.175 to 180
Lot Size : 80 Shares
Amount - Rs 14400/-
23. Solution of Queries |   Link |  Bookmark | March 6, 2018 12:36:17 PM (1100+ Posts, 1400+ Likes)
Main problem in this ipo is alankit , background of this registrar for allotment process not good.......
23.2. Baelish |   Link |  Bookmark | March 6, 2018 5:38:09 PM
Second you, Hudco allotment was scam
23.3. RAM GARG |   Link |  Bookmark | March 7, 2018 9:20:14 PM
Alankit handles previous IPO in a very good manner that I had experienced. Investor Grievance resolution mechanism is superb as compare to other registrars. There is much qualified and experiences professionals working in RTA division as other RTA dont have. Hence have a experience with Alankit in this IPO
22. Aniketiaf |   Link |  Bookmark | March 7, 2018 6:34:23 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (1800+ Posts, 10200+ Likes)
Gmp of Bandhan is 12-15( negligible trade)
Gmp of Bharat Dyn. is 15-18( negligible trade)
21. Jaymin bhatt |   Link |  Bookmark | March 7, 2018 12:09:56 PM (200+ Posts, 100+ Likes)
No premium no koshtak
20. raj agrawal |   Link |  Bookmark | March 6, 2018 4:58:48 PM
GMP kya hai
20.1. Bhallal dev |   Link |  Bookmark | March 7, 2018 10:25:59 AM
20-22
19. sagar dasa |   Link |  Bookmark | March 7, 2018 12:35:11 AM
Hi All,

So far I did not benefitted any disinvestments stocks came from central government.. Think 100 times before you buy the shares sold by President of India..
I hold below shares from disinvestment still trading below to issue price
1. Coal India ( Bought at RS:- 350/- in 2009)
2. Shipping corporation of India ( bought at RS:- 140 in 2010 OFS)
3. GIC
4. NIC
5. NTPC (OFS)
6. MMTC
7. MOIL
The positives are
1. Power grid corporation
2. Cochin shipping
19.1. Bhallal dev |   Link |  Bookmark | March 7, 2018 10:04:14 AM
I too lose heavily in GIC .gained only from pnbhf
18. RAJAKUMAR |   Link |  Bookmark | March 6, 2018 10:02:11 PM (1400+ Posts, 1200+ Likes)
NAV is 181 for 2017 and 177.9 for sep 17. Eps is Rs.14.4 for sept 17. So it is coming at a pe of 14.7. It is a good company. FII will participate in this issue above 100 times. So grey market will improve. No listed peer in India. However in USA lot of companies listed there. General Dynamic Corp trading at a pe of 23. Heico Corp trading at 69 pe. L3 Tech at 21 pe. Curtiss-Wright Corp trading at 27 pe. National PRESTO Ind 13.7. Harris Corp trading at 29 pe. Rockwell Collins trading at 25 pe. Almost defence companies in USA trading at a average pe of 25. Bharat Dynamics coming at a pe of 14.7. Certainly this company will reward you.
17. sonal patel |   Link |  Bookmark | March 6, 2018 9:14:47 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (1500+ Posts, 5700+ Likes)
In amdavad
17.1. Devendrablt |   Link |  Bookmark | March 6, 2018 9:59:45 PM
I want to sell

Pls give Any one number who deal in this ipo
16. sonal patel |   Link |  Bookmark | March 6, 2018 9:14:27 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (1500+ Posts, 5700+ Likes)
In Amdavadi
15. sonal patel |   Link |  Bookmark | March 6, 2018 7:03:18 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (1500+ Posts, 5700+ Likes)
Grey market o Bharat dynamic is 40- 44 application rate 600-650
15.1. Devendrablt |   Link |  Bookmark | March 6, 2018 7:54:50 PM
Which city
14. Aniketiaf |   Link |  Bookmark | March 6, 2018 6:12:37 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (1800+ Posts, 10200+ Likes)
Gray market activity of Bharat Dynamics is started @ 32+ premium.
13. raj narang |   Link |  Bookmark | March 6, 2018 4:52:05 PM
Better discuss Bharat dynamics than wasting time on registrar