Vivo, though the listing price is high, trading of shares is very less. We shouldn''t get into such situation, we can only see the profit but can''t enjoy the profit unless someone buy the shares. I feel, Omnipotent and Vivo are almost in same category ....
24.4. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
January 4, 2022 11:02:30 AM
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@gaurav dd dimer : for you, one option is simply not sell the shares if allotted during this financial year means till 31st march to avoid any tax calculation for that :) Then it won''t matter how much profit it is giving.
Btw what is this DD dimer in your name ? i had one lab test of D dimer during covid time, i remember that when i see your name :)
Yes, for the same reason my holding is 3 times of last year, to sell shares in next year. Few will sell on long term, and few in April itself.
Regarding DD Dimer, DD -Desidime another public forum relating to deals, coupons discounts or some loots , site i got addicted , however after the job, i rarely visit there now, as dont get time for that. Have looted more than 50K in commulative due to that site in few years.
Dimer is the word used to say to the person using the site.
@Gaurav DD Dimer... Lucky you :) half of my holdings are in Red :( Than for you better to hold it till March end or consider sell if listing gain can compensate for tax to be paid... But in any case hope for a good listing Ha Ha
@Gaurav there is a whole quarter before the FY ends. So be positive and hope you get more allotment and profit much more than 12.5k.
23. rsk| Link| Bookmark|
January 4, 2022 10:29:39 AM
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@anantag
As said, any investment here? So others can decide.
22. DuckkyDuck| Link| Bookmark|
January 4, 2022 10:10:25 AM
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I noticed many queries of people with how to apply in Groww, upstox etc. This shows these are all new investors coming to SME and applying. And only few of them might know the huge risk of SME IPO, while most of them are applying blindly just by seeing return of Nupur, VIVO. Nupur/ VIVO SME IPOs are 1 in 10. Other 9 in 10 open in discount and continue in LCs. First risk is lot size is large, of more than 1 lac and then these new investor might not know, it can open 20-30% low and 30k will be gone in one shot. And this is not even the worst part. Worst part is, low liquidity and large lot size, due which it will always move in Circuits. In bad stocks in lower circuits. So you will be able to see your wealth getting eroded every day, but can''t do anything. This is the major risk i see with SME. And for this i consider them riskier that F&O.
Purpose of this post is not to scare away people, but to make them aware of the risk and make informed decision. At the end, its individual investors decision to apply or not. And this post is not specific to Timescan, its for all SME IPO.
Friends if one broker allows you to apply SME IPO, he will definitely allow you to sell these shares. I personally use Zerodha and Upstox. Although I don''t apply sme ipo through them, but have bought/sold sme stocks through these brokers. This is for your information. It will be good if it helps you in any way.
21.1. GJ ๐| Link| Bookmark|
January 4, 2022 10:09:38 AM
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@Anari Investor,
One more thing to add, sometimes the reverse also happen. Like in Zerodha, applying in BSE SME IPO is NOT allowed, but you can surely buy/sell as soon as it is listed. Example: Prevest and many more.
I should apply thru sbi ABSA but wondering if I use my sbicap or Fyers demat details then can I sell it if alloted
16.3. eVA| Link| Bookmark|
January 3, 2022 3:54:45 PM
IPO Guru (1300+ Posts, 1900+ Likes)
if SBIcap is providing a UPI facility for SME IPO then it''s sure that, from SBIcap you can sell SME shares if allotted. So better apply with SBICapital Demat account details.
With the great listing of VIVO, I am affraid that now most of investors are comapring the best 1-2 of available 3-4 SME IPOs and not the good one to apply for. Let''s not be compulsive applicants. Choose the SME IPO which you are confident on and not just the best out of available. VIVO was a rare occurrence and please don''t let it effect your decision on other SME IPOs.
14.1. Arca| Link| Bookmark|
December 31, 2021 8:15:27 PM
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I am afraid , whether they will listen. From 2022 onwards sme ipo''s are going to have a great craze since in most of the people''s Google feed / any highlighting article there would be information about how eki gave 99times return or how prevest, bew or vivo gave >100% on listing but they won''t give information about how people are locked in down circuits in bew or vivo or in future eki or the Any greedy/innocent getting trapped in an ipo without liquidity. So take calculated risk when you are applying any ipo and also when you are buying any ipo in secondary market. My request would be atleast consider the risks before buying any ipo in secondary market, nothing wrong if you are not alloted .if you are not getting alloted, try applying with your family members (parents,children,spouse) even if that not suffice open huf . any married person can open ,though it will take time. I didn''t get allotment of bew or eki or prevest or vivo and i haven''t. This lottery system in retail will literally drive you crazy ๐ so beware of it. Alas , if you have time,try reading financials ,after all it is going to be your money. Have a great year ahead ๐.
14.2. Arca| Link| Bookmark|
December 31, 2021 8:56:27 PM
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*I didn''t get allotment of prevest or vivo and i haven''t bought it. eki & bew I didn''t apply.
Thanks for alerting. SME IPO seems very lucrative as they have given profit which is equivalent to 5 years of profit of Mainboard IPO.
I had never invested in SME before. As I canโt take much risk of losing my hard earned money. But now looking at the SME profits, I am wondering to enter and try luck in SME too. But surely I would read the expert advice before putting my money on risk.
Plz suggest which is better between Timescan & AB cotspin ? Is there any risk of negatives listing in these ? Whatโs the expected risk to reward ratio in these IPOs
14.4. Arca| Link| Bookmark|
January 2, 2022 3:13:51 PM
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Both are good IPOs ,you choose any between two.below are my estimates.since it is your first sme ipo i am cautioning you both can result in loss (it is not great like prevest or nupur or vivo or eki) 1.time scan expected listing gain 10-30% listing loss if market goes bad or subscription not good it can list @5-15%. If you can hold for long term it can go upto Rs 100. Less chances of allotment because of its size 2.ab cotspin has expected expected listing gain of 10-20% and expected listing loss upto 15% if market goes bad or subscription not good.i don''t know about future since peers with good market cap, business are listed at similar valuations. It has good chances of allotment because of its size.
Lol you are a funny guy with 0 understanding of anything man. Vivo went up coz of fundamentals. You think these guys are fools. Wake up!
14.6. Arca| Link| Bookmark|
January 3, 2022 10:06:57 AM
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@blick i guess you were referring me, thanks for your comments. i don''t really mind vivo share holders criticizing me just because I am just trying to safe guard innocent retailers entering vivo at exorbitant listing price,though the target i kept is 200 upto 800(long term). If you want to sell off wait till 5 days of LC and you don''t have to worry because u had bought at 82. Don''t slaughter innocent retailers ,they come in hope making some money not buying your LC shares and get struck without liquidity.
@Arca, thank you for your suggestions and cautioning
14.8. IpoRetailer| Link| Bookmark|
January 3, 2022 3:51:31 PM
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@Arca, very well said, I wish I had this advice before. Already burnt my hands with Markolines. Do you have an opinion about it? I can hold for long term, only if prospects look better for future. If not, I''ll book loss and move on for something better in secondary market.
14.9. SONMAYA| Link| Bookmark|
January 3, 2022 4:34:13 PM
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@ Arca you R absolutely right...All Humbug is going
14.10. Arca| Link| Bookmark|
January 3, 2022 6:43:15 PM
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@ipo retailer , sorry my friend i couldn''t not value it properly, since it is a totally new line of business and i don''t have much knowledge about the future prospects in the company line of business . When i went through the financials it has come @35pe and 4+p/b. It had listed @discount , so if you have limited funds for applying ipo''s or in urgent need of funds come out of it we can earn profits in other good IPOs and don''t worry or In long run, it may fetch good return if any operator moves are there or any peer company comes in or sector itself improves. Financials: Profits & sales are stagnant no improvement for September (half year pre ipo )and with ipo proceeds they are saying they are going to repay loan, if they do in coming months interest will not be there and interest constitutes almost 50% of PAT. And 2.5% of revenue . So it will have good impact .generally debt free companies always preferred by many investors, though few consider leveraging to earn more profit for equity holders.
Crux 1.if not in need of funds , and you have amount for investing in upcoming ipo hold for long term and follow upcoming results. 2.no i don''t have much funds or not interested in following results or I have urgent need of funds come out of this stock
14.11. Arca| Link| Bookmark|
January 3, 2022 6:47:15 PM
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Sorry forgot to say ๐ฌ Crux 1.hold 2.sell
14.12. IpoRetailer| Link| Bookmark|
January 3, 2022 6:55:00 PM
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@Arca, Thank you so much for your time and analysis. I will Hold for now - at least I am convinced enough that company has some fundamentals and wont loose everything by holding it for a long term. Will rethink over it after couple of more results. Thanks again. :)
14.13. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
January 3, 2022 8:42:58 PM
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@arca: As you mentioned this line: "I didn''''t get allotment of bew or eki or prevest or vivo and i haven''''t." it means you have applied in BEW and EKI ? just confirming once.
14.14. Arca| Link| Bookmark|
January 3, 2022 9:08:25 PM
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No i didn''t apply in both. But i wanted to apply in eki so much ,dilip sir gave apply review. First when i wrote the above point i wanted to say that I didn''t get allotment to stress that i haven''t bought in secondary market. It was giving different meaning so i corrected by changing the wordings in below message.
14.15. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
January 3, 2022 9:31:56 PM
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@arca: ok i just wanted to know due to some reason, i would be praising you if you had applied there in EKI and BEW even after seeing initial strong negative reviews from one same Guru in both these ipos in below links (first page). https://www.chittorgarh.com/ipo-feedback/eki-energy-services-ipo/1101/2/ https://www.chittorgarh.com/ipo/bew-engineering-ipo/1146/
I was so much amazed and surprised by seeing these comments that how someone can write so much negative with such strong/wrong words, everyone would have afraid if some ipo guru will write like this. I saw @Dinesh singh also missed to apply in EKI whom i had good interactions in last some months in sme''s and may be so many others missed to apply by seeing such comments. I wished so hard that i would be present in sme''s that time too in gaining/sharing knowledge and experience, i joined from prevest/markolines time. And that person still using similar words instead of simply telling "avoid" to people. https://www.chittorgarh.com/ipo/brandbucket-media-ipo/1201/ My simple point here is we can simply write to "avoid" instead of using such words (just look at the comments/words used in above link).
14.16. Arca| Link| Bookmark|
January 3, 2022 9:45:53 PM
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@lokes , after that promax came good ipo at very cheap price but only few applied & i didn''t have courage to apply more than 1 lot. I still regret why i didn''t apply in full force.
@lokes, I think you have missed something. I have applied in EKI in both HNI and Retail and also got alloted 2 lots. But unfortunately sold both lot on listing day at 50% profit.
14.18. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
January 3, 2022 10:23:29 PM
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@arca: yes promax performed well after listing but listing gain was not so much in that like others. And financials for that were average but asking price was reasonable and subscription in HNI was also not so great. After its listing, that time power shares were in demand like tata power also performed so well so promax also got benifit from that. And promax now came back to around 19 levels from high of around 33 in last 1 month. Anyways in sme''s its not easy to judge for longer duration that which one will become multibagger or which one will perform average or which one will underperform like markolines. And don''t regret by seeing that performing well now, we need to be cautious in applying until we can take big risk like @Mravi sir, since no one can predict future moves exactly for any share. Anyways you got nupur, so feel happy for that :)
14.19. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
January 3, 2022 10:28:10 PM
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@dinesh: oh sorry...i think i misunderstood then by some of our message in that forum. Then congrats for allotment and profit :) Amazing 2 lots :) i know it would be tough for anyone to hold for so long till now, but if someone have holded 1 lot then it would have earned him around 1.2 crore rs in 1 lot by now :)
14.20. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
January 3, 2022 10:30:06 PM
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little typo correction in above message in first line : *by some of your message
14.21. Arca| Link| Bookmark|
January 3, 2022 10:35:58 PM
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Yeah , nupur is something great for Me. Out of 30+ got one, and i have some great targets for the stock Let''s see if it comes true. 98k profit till now unrealised. That''s y I entered ab cotspin today even though it may list at discount
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January 3, 2022 12:47:10 PM
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Subject To 7500/-
13.1. Arca| Link| Bookmark|
January 3, 2022 1:33:37 PM
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Please be posting gmp or sbt atleast once in a day if you get a chance to post. Thanks a lot
Dear hchc Kindly update regularly.Although you have not any tag e.g mentor..guru..but really you are the Gem in our group.and pls select good name becose hchc name is not suitable for you.thanks
9.2. Arca| Link| Bookmark|
January 3, 2022 2:28:40 PM
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Only in zerodha I think they are allowing sme ipo''s that too only nse sme. If any other broker allowing please post here. It will be helpful for others to know