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November 15, 2021 9:08:51 AM
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Most of people are missing one important point all issues which are loss making are getting more premium but issues making small or stable profit are not attracting much response after listing. Why so may be its new - New market😂🤔
Bec market always valuation at future growth...and those are in deep losses going to be profitable in future...where as profit making ipo may be in deep red in future market pundits expecting seems...
Good point. If you see Nykaa or Zomato these companies are profitable in what they sell (product/services). Because they are investing more in physical store/giving discounts/tech investment/new segments, they burn more cash than they generate. This brings exponential growth. if you read how Amazon made this concept understandable to all, you give premium to growth first.
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November 14, 2021 4:00:11 PM
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At least one good thing here is people who applied full force in latent view can use their money here. But who skipped latent for tarson, for them, it will be confusion again to choose between tarson and gocolours , by wednesday, things will be clear hopefully as per GMP and expected subscriptions.
Pretty straightforward for me. I''ll go ff in Tarsons as it has good fundamentals, valuation and future growth potential. A crap issue like go colours doesn''t seem to have much of a future with their current portfolio and I feel that the premium might be fake
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November 16, 2021 1:09:53 AM
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Only for listing gain purpose, I will apply in gocolors and will sell on listing without taking any risks. Ya tarsons is better company than gocolors in all aspects.
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November 18, 2021 4:43:18 PM
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@lokes,@M.K.,@nurool, After applying in 3 applications in retail and 1 hni in Tarsons,I have around 70 lots money only in 1 account and retail money in 3 accounts. Now what should I do tomorrow in Gocolors,assuming 600× hni? Should I apply 70 lots in hni or 15 lots in hni or just 1 lot retail? Thanks u all
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November 18, 2021 5:21:20 PM
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@sbipo
It all depends on both the retail and the HNI subscription.
If HNI is say 500X, then you have a 14% chance of allotment if u apply for 70 lots in HNI. Concurrently if retail is at 100x , then you have a 1% chance to get allotment.
What you can do is apply for 14 lots in 3 accounts (HNI) which will give you a 2.8% chance of getting a lot each ( combined chance of a single lot between these 3 applications will be 8.4%) and the rest you can apply in the 4th account ( remaining 31 lots ) which will give you a 6.2% chance of allotment in that.
It makes more sense to increase the chances all around.
Disclosure : In latent, I got 0 from 480 lots in HNI and 1/6 in Retail. Hence, I feel this would be a better strategy.
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November 18, 2021 5:44:58 PM
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@M.K., Thank u very much
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November 18, 2021 5:59:38 PM
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@M.K., In LVA,did u apply in hni quota(14 lots) in all the 6 retail accounts where u got 1/6 from?
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November 18, 2021 6:18:43 PM
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@sbipo
I applied 480 Lots from 1st account and 1 lot each from the rest 6 accounts.
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November 18, 2021 6:22:15 PM
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@lokes
Did u get any allotment in LVA? Couldn''t see any entry by you on the LVA forum and there are too many allotment comments ... I gave up after 3 pages 😅
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November 18, 2021 8:19:00 PM
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@MK: no, didn''t allotted latent view ipo in any of 6-7 retail applications, it was anyways very tough in retail. you were lucky and as i said got compensated for your HNI application loss, so anyhow good for you overall.
@sbibo: from your 70 lots, either you apply 70 lots from 1 account or 50 lots from one and 20 lots from other account, doesn''t matter much, depends on luck. its just like below example: you want to participate in these 2 diff. lotteries: 2 out of 14 and 2 out of 35 or you want to participate in this single lottery: 2 out of 10 Better is go with 70 lots from 1 account only means participate in single lottery.
We have seen their products in malls and also used in the family. Did not find anything special about it. Ladies bottomwear, chudidar. salwar doesn''t need much creativity. Only USP seems to be range of colors available at one place. Bottom-wear products do not have kind of margins which the top-wear products enjoy.
Kind of euphoria we are currently seeing in the IPO market may still lead to some listing gains but I personally do not see much future for the company with current product range.
@ipo mitr agreed. I''m also of the same view... Couldn''t find anything special about the company and I''m surprised that an overvalued issue like this is commanding 50%+ premium.
It is because... tarsons won''t reach the desired subscription as money is blocked in latent view. So market will push an unworthy stock just to get listing gains. Although a turn around is possible after 6 months in Go fashion''s financials.
Sir Promoters are selling less than 5% of their share holdings, having great trust in their own company. I think company would grow fast after listing as they will have money to execute their financial needs.... Raj Bhartiya
They are selling only 5% because they know that exorbitant valuation will ensure that they are still able to fund their lossess despite selling only 5%.
@God is Great: Hope owls eye is doing fine, except he is not replying to any of your messages in recent IPO. He may be busy mainting all the print outs he put on wall and minting money..
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November 15, 2021 1:03:20 PM
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Dear cold burger you are right... बस लगे रहो। एक बार तो राम को सबरी की झोपड़ी मे आना होगा।
Money is limited. All fund all are blocked. No more funded HNI will be available for this. Only self funded HNI will participate in this. Hence HNI subscription will not vary with the GMP. Expect max 50X only as per my estimate.
I seriously don''t want gmp to cross 50% .. if its past so.. than nbfc comes to play in role, than 800x subscription level, than my 50% less application in BOA and finally Royal Rumble match .... Not again.
Couldn''t find anything special about the company which makes me want to apply. 1) decreasing revenue trend 2) loss has been increasing 3) cloth business is highly competitive and ever changing 4) valuation wise it''s highly overpriced.
Can someone please enlighten me as to why people are buying this crap at 50% premium?
@MogPunisher based on recent trend it seems better to apply in companies which look messed up. It is mad rush...So people will flock. We Skipped many thinking from investor point of view and many stunned us ..#Stovecraft, #EaseMytrip... #AFBRL::::Valuation gone from 170 to 300+ in 3 months. Still cheaper to Go colors but people need fast money these days.
@noorul @lokes @mravi Looks like my prediction was correct in the discussion we had on PB fintech vs Sigachi in terms of profitability. PB fintech had much lower hni oversubscription and had a good listing and currently trading at 25% premium.....HNIs who went for PB were rewarded handsomely.
@ Mogs and other .. i m not agree with ur conclusion between sigachi and pb in reference to return on capital.. becaz currently pb trading at 24 % premium but on listing at 10am.. it gives only 8% listing gain.. and thats wat only matter.. after the bell ring no matter how up it goes or in other case how low. Now Its all secondary marker things.. and in sigachi game is not over yet.. no one knws how many uc r left.. i m still holding sigachi.. n sold 1 lot of pb.
@ sdz.. from one ac to Tarson.. and other for Go fashion.. no tansion what so ever... N skip sapphire as gmp not even 10% . Just like SJS ..
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November 15, 2021 4:54:13 PM
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@Noorul..I thought you applied to Latent in HNI from both of your accounts and so thought you can''t apply for Tarson
37.18. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
November 16, 2021 1:04:29 AM
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@Mog: I applied in both pb and sigachi and luckily got good allotment with lesser lots, means 1 lot in sigachi from 150 lots and 4.5 lots from 35 lots in PB 😊 You applied FF in latent or waited like some of us for tarsons/gocolors?
@noorul : you sold your sigachi in preopen or still holding? Generally you sell on listing. I am still holding my one lot. I Will sell on 17th keeping stop loss daily.
And from tarsons and gocolors, I am going FF HNI in gocolors and all retail in tarsons.
I m having 150 share of sigachi.. mostly i sell shares on listing day... But this time want to hve some rides in upper circuit.. let see where it takes me.. hoping 700 level atleast..
@lokes I skipped Latent in HNI as the subscription was beyond imagination. I''ll probably go for Tarsons as the subscription will be quite low compared to Go fashion and the shares are worth keeping for long-term.
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November 16, 2021 11:18:55 AM
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@noorul: congrats :) good decision. ya its better to ride UC''s atleast here, since we didnt alloted in paras, but just keep stoploss also , any day suddenly UC will be changed to LC like happened in paras, but still it wont go much down. ya i remember you had put around 270 lots in sigachi so got more shares :) @MOG: whoever skipped latent, for them its better to go in tarson only but still better to wait till 2.30pm on last day if subscription is becoming very less like sapphire etc then gmp may also come down. it should have atleast 50X-100X to have gmp sustain. Below 50X, due to any reason, may become risky here.
Jisko registrar Linkintime se problem hai wo sab log Tarsons me lagaaye jiska registrar Kfintech hai..😅 Linkintime jinke liye lucky raha hai unke chance badh jayege.
19th is Holiday and 20th-21st Saturday, Sunday. So it is open for 3 working days 17,18, 22..
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November 14, 2021 2:57:14 PM
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IPO bidding period can vary between 3-10 working days. It is in the hands of company to decide this. But for this particular IPO, it is nicely explained by @neeraj, the reason for a long IPO duration.
Zerodha does not allow HNI applications. You need to use Bank ASBA and use your Zerodha DMET on bank portal
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November 14, 2021 8:11:16 AM
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@ColdBurger- Kindly check this link for more details-- https://support.zerodha.com/category/console/ipo/articles/hni-ipo-application Thanks!
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November 13, 2021 10:14:32 AM
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Waiting for petty investors to say they''ll avoid this as the company sells "ashleel cheezey" with revealing ads that are not part of Indian culture. /s
"Our bottom-wear products, which include churidars, leggings, dhotis, harem pants, patiala, palazzos, culottes, pants, trousers and jeggings, are sold across multiple categories such as ethnic wear, western wear, fusion wear, athleisure, denims, plus sizes and girls 160 wear making our portfolio ‘universal’ and for every occasion. As of September 30, 2021, we sold bottom-wear in over 50 styles in more than 120 colours."