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37. raj |   Link |  Bookmark | September 25, 2007 5:01:57 PM
Dear all
this issue will be subscribed at least 40 times and minimum 15-20 times in retail but premeum is around Rs 65 on issue price of Rs 108/-, thus person applying for Rs 1 lacs application is expected to get one lot ie your profit on 1 lacs for 25 days will be Rs 3900 ie more than 4% per month so one must go for it and if subscription is less than this than it's bonus
36. RK |   Link |  Bookmark | September 25, 2007 2:52:02 PM
One should not blindly follow others recommandation. I have noticed that there is a tactic on most of the plateforms such as this site to discourage investers in investing specially in small size issue like Supreme Infra. This company is already established player in infrastructures development and it will easily take up residential/commercial projects. The pricing of this issue is quite reasonable which is being agreed by all so called market experts as far as higher risk with this company is concered, it make no sense it is an integral part of every business.
35. dpiyush |   Link |  Bookmark | September 25, 2007 1:48:55 PM
If everyone is recommending a avoid on it then why is it listing at grey market premium of 60-70%.
Is it worth applying for listing gains?

-Piyush
34. Intelligent Advice |   Link |  Bookmark | September 25, 2007 12:12:04 PM
Supreme Infrastructure India: Avoid

Investors can give the initial public offer of Supreme Infrastructure the go-by. Lack of a focussed strategy, a very small revenue base that could depress earnings even in a mild slowdown and presence in businesses such as quarrying that carry regulatory risks do not augur well for growth prospects. The company’s business also does not have high entry barriers.

The offer price (Rs 95-108) is at 8-10 times the company’s earnings for FY 2006-07 and on the current equity base. While the valuations are in line with similar companies, the risks associated with Supreme Infrastructure appear high relative to small-sized companies such as Tantia Constructions or PBA Infrastructure.

Within the infrastructure space, there are already superior listed plays which offer high earnings visibility backed by requisite technical qualification. Our recommendation for Supreme, however, does not factor in the possibility of gains on listing.
33. sam. |   Link |  Bookmark | September 24, 2007 12:34:32 PM
Dear sir,

What is about Supreme ? and its future premium
32. Yatish S |   Link |  Bookmark | September 24, 2007 12:12:25 PM
Hey TIMTIM,
Can u suggest me in this IPO.
If i invest for 60shares then wat are my chances for getting it.
How profitable it will be once it gets listed.
31. Jain vivek |   Link |  Bookmark | September 24, 2007 9:54:55 AM
Supreme Infrastructure may grow given the size of order book and industry outlook. Concerns are regional presence, size and competition.

The booming infrastructure spending has not only helped the bigger companies to get rich, but the smaller ones have also benefited. Companies especially the larger players are flooded with orders and most of them have started sub-contracting to the regional and the smaller players. It has also paved a path for the smaller players to do execute tasks such as repairing, by pass, or widening of raods.

One such company, Supreme Infrastructure India, is coming out with initial public offer to raise Rs 33-37 crore with a priced band of Rs 95-108 per share. Supreme Infrastructure is an infrastructure development company, with an annual turnover of Rs 81.65 crore in FY07.

The company generates about 61.49 per cent of its total income from NHAI and Sadbhav Engineering. Currently, the company has an order book of Rs 330 crore which includes work in and around Mumbai and Karnataka for the construction and widening of roads.

Looking at its order book and demand for the projects in the future, the company is investing to increase its ready mix concrete (RMC) capacities.

Besides captive consumption the company is also targeting the growing RMC demand and supplying it to other companies. Supreme Infrastructure had 30 cubic meter of RMC per hour capacity generating revenues of about Rs 16-18 crore annually from sales to the other companies.

The company added another 60 cubic per hour in Q1FY07 and plans to add yet another unit of a similar capacity. This is expected to be operational in Q2FY08. Adding another 30 cubic by way of acquisition will push up its total capacity to 180 cubic meter of RMC per hour.

The company is also investing Rs 18 crore for the long-term working capital requirement. "We are in the business of high working capital. Considering our current order book and the requirement from the future business we will require higher working capital," says Vikram Sharma, MD, Supreme Infrastructure India.

A promoter group company, Supreme Housing and Hospitality Pvt. Ltd (SHHPL) is estimated to have total developable land of 500,000 square feet at Powai Mumbai. The SHHPL intends to build an IT park, costing Rs 300 crore to be executed in a phased manner over the next four years.

As per the understanding, SHHPL has appointed Supreme Infrastructure to carry out the entire construction work. Supreme Infrastructure has already factored in about Rs 90 crore in its current order book.

Supreme Infrastructure does not have any past experience in carrying out such projects, however with the infusion of about Rs 6.77 crore from the proceeds of the issue it will invest in required machinery and target such projects in the future as well.

Valuations

On the upper band, the issue is priced at 11.6 times its fully diluted earnings of FY07 (on the post issue capital). While on the annualised earnings of the FY08, the PE works out to 7-8 times. The company has been growing consistently in terms of revenue and profits.

This should continue in the coming years as well on the back of better industry out look and strong order book of almost four times its FY07 revenue with execution time of 18-24 months. However, the issues like small size of the company, high competition, regional play and high working capital required makes it a risky investment.

Issue opened on: 21 September 2007
Issue closes : 26 September 2007
From--------- business Standard Ltd.
30. raj |   Link |  Bookmark | September 23, 2007 8:10:17 PM
Source business line:

Supreme Infrastructure India: Avoid

While the valuations are in line with like-sized companies, the risks associated with Supreme Infrastructure appear high.

Vidya Bala

Investors can give the initial public offer of Supreme Infrastructure the go-by. Lack of a focussed strategy, a very small revenue base that could depress earnings even in a mild slowdown and presence in businesses such as quarrying that carry regulatory risks do not augur well for growth prospects. The company’s business also does not have high entry barriers.

The offer price (Rs 95-108) is at 8-10 times the company’s earnings for FY 2006-07 and on the current equity base. While the valuations are in line with similar companies, the risks associated with Supreme Infrastructure appear high relative to small-sized companies such as Tantia Constructions or PBA Infrastructure.

Within the infrastructure space, there are already superior listed plays which offer high earnings visibility backed by requisite technical qualification. Our recommendation for Supreme, however, does not factor in the possibility of gains on listing.
29. jinx |   Link |  Bookmark | September 23, 2007 5:09:30 PM
yes jain u r absulutly right this is not a big consern and it`s offer prise is also heigher than the expectation,
some experts are also not disclosing the fact behinding that because all senior experts has opinion to apply this IPO.

Be carefull,

in extreem case one or Two lot application will be suitable, earninng will be seen after 6 month.
Thanks
Jinx
28. Haribabu |   Link |  Bookmark | September 23, 2007 3:14:03 PM
Hi All,Please don't apply to this Issue.it is an very small co and experts opinion also were confusing.Please don't put your money and make loss.If you want try with one or two lots
27. Jain vivek |   Link |  Bookmark | September 23, 2007 8:39:24 AM
Investors can give the initial public offer of Supreme Infrastructure the go-by. Lack of a focussed strategy, a very small revenue base that could depress earnings even in a mild slowdown and presence in businesses such as quarrying that carry regulatory risks do not augur well for growth prospects. The company’s business also does not have high entry barriers.

The offer price (Rs 95-108) is at 8-10 times the company’s earnings for FY 2006-07 and on the current equity base. While the valuations are in line with similar companies, the risks associated with Supreme Infrastructure appear high relative to small-sized companies such as Tantia Constructions or PBA Infrastructure. from the hindu businessline.

26. raj |   Link |  Bookmark | September 22, 2007 7:43:22 PM
LOOKING AT FRIDAY'S MOVE IN RELIANCE GROUP AND OTHER STOCKS, IT SEEMS SOME SCAM IS BUILDING UP IN INDIAN MARKETS.
I COULD BE WRONG.
BUT SUCH FIERY UPMOVES COME ONLY WHEN MARKETS FORM A MAJOR TOP.
25. manish |   Link |  Bookmark | September 22, 2007 5:33:42 PM
Sep 21 2007 1:19PM
Supreme Infrastructure

CM RATING 45/100

Supreme Infrastructure

Backward integration
Presence in quarrying, crushing, wet maccadam and ready-mix concrete to obtain better margin in road projects compared with peers

Promoted by Bhawanishankar Sharma and his two sons Vikram and Vikas, Supreme Infrastructure is a Mumbai-based small construction company with primary focus on road construction. Traditionally, road construction is a low-margin business. But with presence in quarrying, crushing, wet batch mixing, asphalt and ready-mix concrete (RMC), the company is well integrated to earn healthy margin in constructing roads.

The RMC plants, one at Powai in Mumbai and another at Bhiwandi outside Mumbaiwith, have an aggregate capacity to produce 90 cubic meters of RMC per hour. Another RMC plant, with a capacity of 60 cubic meters of RMC per hour, is being installed at Powai. There is a proposal to set up an RMC unit at Citradurga in Karnataka. This will add another 30 cubic meters of RMC per hour.

The wet mix plant and the asphalt plant are located at Powai. The quarrying and crushing unit is in Bhiwandi. Their current capacity is 80 tonnes an hour of wet mix macadam and 85 tonnes per hour of asphalt, respectively. After meeting inhouse requirement, RMC, wet mix and asphalt are sold to other users.

Apart from setting up an RMC plant to cater to the needs of the National Highway (NH) 4 Western Transport Corridor project in Karnataka, Supreme Infrastructure is constructing a new crushing plant. A Rs 90-crore order for construction of an IT park from Supreme Housing & Hospitality (SHHL), a company set up by promoters, marks Supreme Infrastructure’s foray into construction of office blocks.

To meet the funding requirement for these projects, augment plant and machinery (P&M), and meet long-term working capital requirement, Supreme Infrastructure is tapping the capital market. The company has budgeted Rs 14.33 crore for purchase and upgrade of P&M, and Rs 6.88 crore for buying P&M required for road construction, and Rs 17.90 crore for long-term working capital requirement.

Strengths

The unexecuted portion of the order book was Rs 299.84 crore on 1 August 2007. The current order book stands at Rs 330 crore including RS 30-crore orders for supply of RMC. Excluding the supply order for RMC and Rs 90-crore order for building the IT park, the remaining the orders of Rs 210 crore are for road projects.

Enjoys higher margin compared with peers operating in the same segment despite the construction business largely skewed towards the thin-margin and highly competitive road segment. Has been historically earning a net profit margin of 10%-12% in road projects. The integration into quarrying, crushing, wet maccadam and RMC allows for better margin in road projects compared with peers.

Is registered as class ‘I’ by the public and works department (PWD) of the Maharashtra government and as ‘A’ class contractor by the Bombay Municipal Corporation. Entitled to bid for and accept works and orders as per its bidding capacity.

Weaknesses

Prospects largely skewed on single segment: road construction. About 89% of the current order book (as of August 2007) accounted by three projects: two road projects and another construction of IT park of the promoter group company. Has little experience in executing building construction, specially IT parks.

May have to suffer bad publicity and financial losses due to litigations by environmentalists against its RMC, asphalt and quarrying /crushing activities (which form its backward integration and provide competitive strength) in and around Mumbai.

Till year ending March 2007 (FY 2007) had claimed Section 80IA benefit for Rs 15-crore projects cumulatively. But has stopped claiming the benefit from FY 2008. Has not provided / charged / reversed the Section 80IA benefit claimed subsequent to the withdrawal of this benefit in the Union Budget for 2007-08.

Cash flow from operations has increased to a negative Rs 2.77 crore in FY 2007 from a negative Rs 46 lakh in FY 2006 on account of higher sundry debtors and inventories. Sundry debtors rose to Rs 16.43 crore in FY 2007 compared with Rs 3.79 crore in FY 2006. Inventories were up to Rs 14.05 crore in FY 2007 from Rs 1.82 crore in FY 2006.

Valuation

Sales revenue clocked a CAGR of 67.78% to touch Rs 81.66 crore in FY 2007 from Rs 6.14 crore in FY 2003. EPS on post-issue expanded equity of Rs 13.87 works out Rs 9.2 in FY 2007. The offer price discounts this by 10.3x & 11.7x on the lower and upper price band of Rs 95 and Rs 108, respectively. As comparable peers such as PBA Infrastructure, MSK Projects and Roman Tarmat are available at a P/E of 11.6, 15.7 and 23 times, the issue is reasonably priced.

Supreme Infrastructure: Issue Highlights

Sector Construction - Meidum/Small
No. of Share on Offer 3475000
Price Band (in Rs) 95-108
Post Issue Equity (Rs Crore) 13.87
Post-Issue Promoter stake (%) 60.04
Issue Open/Close date 21/09/07 to 26/09/07
Listing BSE, NSE
Rating: 45/100



Supreme Infrastructure : Financials

0706 (3) 0703 (12) 0603 (12) 0503 (12) 0403 (12) 0303 (12)
Sales 39.43 81.66 51.41 46.28 21.73 6.14
OPM (%) 22.0 22.2 20.7 19.3 11.4 20.5
OP 8.67 18.15 10.63 8.93 2.47 1.26
Other income 0.02 0.23 0.16 0.15 0.12 0.35
PBIDT 8.69 18.38 10.79 9.08 2.59 1.61
Interest 0.82 2.11 1.84 1.73 0.68 0.64
PBDT 7.87 16.27 8.95 7.35 1.91 0.97
Depreciation 1.34 1.54 0.96 0.88 0.62 0.55
PBT 6.53 14.73 7.99 6.47 1.29 0.42
Current tax 0.75 1.69 1.17 0.50 0.02 0.03
Deferred tax 0.00 0.38 -0.03 0.16 0.07 0.05
PAT 5.78 12.66 6.85 5.81 1.20 0.34
Prior period tax/ Adj. 0.00 -0.10 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.19
Net Profit 5.78 12.76 6.85 5.81 1.20 0.15
EPS* (Rs) 16.7 9.2 4.9 4.2 0.9 0.1
* On post IPO equity of Rs 13.87 crore & Face Value: Rs 10
Var. (%) exceeding 999 has been truncated to 999
Figures in Rs crore
Source: Capitaline Corporate

24. AKA |   Link |  Bookmark | September 22, 2007 2:51:37 PM
Maytas Infra Limited is Hyderabad-based infrastructure development company that has two decades of experience in executing projects under various domains such as Buildings & Structures, Transportation, Water and Energy.
23. AKA |   Link |  Bookmark | September 22, 2007 2:45:07 PM
ONE MORE INFRASTRUCTURE STOCK IS GOING TO ENTER THE MARKET

MAYTAS INFRA

ISSUE OPEN 27-09-2007

ISSUE CLOSE 04/10/2007

PRICE BAND 320-370

WAITING FOR FURTHER DETAILS

REGARDS
AKA
22. mukesh |   Link |  Bookmark | September 22, 2007 1:56:40 PM
apply to all very good IPO
21. pankaj khandelwal |   Link |  Bookmark | September 22, 2007 12:24:53 PM
4.1 star ke issue ka matlab isse accha issue koi or ho hi nahi sakta me to 100000 ke app. lagauga
20. haresh |   Link |  Bookmark | September 22, 2007 2:22:01 AM
how much shares should be applied so tat i can get shares in tis ipo to REAP LISTING GAINS
19. haresh |   Link |  Bookmark | September 22, 2007 2:14:19 AM
oye chak de
dont miss tis opportunity do apply tis ipo good is past record n great shall b listing gains
18. ubwalsons |   Link |  Bookmark | September 21, 2007 6:01:32 PM
Best opportunity to make money without 10son