Spice Communications Limited IPO Message Board (Page 1)

Please let me know anyone has got the refund (those who have not got allotment), I also would like to know how they have got it (means through ECS or Check)?....Please help me...

Have someone got refund from Spice ??

Friends. the prediction was good about the listing price of spice. If it is a loss making co. better to book profit.

It was a nice listing and gave good returns. Guys can book partial-profit above 62 though if you can hold till acquistion games begin it might see new levels of 80+.

Happy investing!!!

Hey guys

Dont ask people to sell Spice. If you want to sell and if you've shares sell it.

For Others who has Spice thru IPO / bought yesterday in Secondary market,

DO NOT SELL SPICE. LEAVE all of those LOSS MAKING STORIES. MARKET DONT WORK ON WHETHER ITS LOSS/PROFIT MAKING CO. WHETHER THER's INTEREST or NOT.

Here are the facts;
1. Telecom Sector is going to be the No. 1 sector in India
2. Why India, Telecom is the next revolution
3. Almost in all the Developed Nations they reached the max subscriber range
4. India is going to dectate terms (Particularly Bharti, TATA, Reliance Indicom, BSNL (will come to market soon i feel), Idea). Offcourse not Spice.

But,

1. Already AT & T is vying for a strong partner in India / a buyout (Spice is the 1st choice)
2. Idea is looking to acquire Spice (already talks are there)
3. Spice has lot of expansion paths

So, longterm buyers, just have some shares (not much) of Spice.

jinishans

HOLD SPICE STOP LOSS 58 HUGE BUYING BY FII
ANITHER IDEA
RETAILER OUT OF MARKET
NOW GAME IS ONE SODE

sell all shares of spice quickly. loss making company .
no long term potential so why hold sell each and every share as there will be no interset from tommorow. spice telecom to go to 42-44 levels in few days

Book profit on half of the shares you have,and next half of the share keep for long term.

i am sure intimespectrum has done some cheating in allied digital . i applied in 8 application and got nil in all. ideally if u applied maximum there is about 25% allotmet so i just want to know from people for those who applied that how many people who applied in maximum got allotmet it may be possible they have intimespectrum taken some shares like karvy did

Hi
Did anyone got the refund for Spice. And if yes, whether it was through ECS, or cheque.

It seems there is a huge resistance @ 60 level, Once it crosses 60 it might see some new heights.

Its currently trading above 58/- @10:30am. Telecom sector is going to boom soon like anything with all next generation networks and products like VoIP, IPTV, Vedio on Demand. 3-4 years back people cant afford to have mobile connectibecause of high tariff rates. Today even damn footpath guys do have cell phone in their hand. So guys keep an eye on this sector.

sell spice telecom.why keep loss making company .instead buy tatat tele which may see profits in this quarter.
sell spice as its going to go below issue price.

There are mixed report on this board, Can anyone enlighten me on what would be the best, To Sell or to Hold and what would be its year end target.

Pls book the profit.
It will settle between 45 and 50

unable to track the application numbers for alldig.

:3597968
:3592861
:3594796
sreedhar.

Those who have got Spice alloted, hold the stock patiently. Telecom sector is doing good and has a good growth story. It had got very good response from QIBs and NIH. It's up to you to reep the benefits. Happy Listing:)

it's not going to merge with idea . because all that deals with idea r now no more . it was announced before a month ..that idea has moved out of spice .....it was in economic times .

Book profits in Spice Comm beyond Rs 60: I-sec

ICICI Securities has come out with report on Spice Communications, which is expected to list in this week. They suggest investors to book profits beyond Rs 60, given the low long-term growth potential and better investment opportunities in the market.

ICICI Securities report on Spice Communications

Spice Communications, one of the smaller players in the Indian telecom sector, has GSM operations in two circles (Punjab and Karnataka) and a subscriber base of 3mn; the company has applied for licenses in rest of the 21 circles. The company has received national & international long distance (N&ILD) licenses for which it is raising Rs5.2bn through its IPO. Spice’s high D/E at 2x (without factoring in off-balance sheet financing of Rs1.8bn) limits access to funds in future and would result in further equity dilution on expanding footprint.

Implied valuation of USD 201/subscriber at the issue price for Spice’s CY08E subscriber base is at 60% discount to that reflected in current valuations for Bharti Airtel, which seems justified with: i) 30% differential in ARPU, ii) limited presence, iii) absence of fixed line & long distance operations, and iv) 1,500bps difference in wireless operating margins.

Targeted pan India presence unlikely; growth to be restricted to existing circles

Spice has presence in only two circles at present and is yet to receive licenses in rest of the 21 circles. Given the present spectrum crunch and uncertainty in the spectrum policy (which would likely favour incumbents), we believe Spice would lag behind other larger players. Increasing market share in Punjab and Karnataka, where penetration is expected to improve from 30% and 20% in FY07 to 49% and 37% in FY09E respectively, would be the key growth driver. We expect subscriber base to increase at 41% CAGR through CY06-08E.

Captive long distance infrastructure and increasing scale to support margins

Spice currently routes its long distance traffic via other operators’ networks on per minute basis, shelling out substantial sums every year. We expect Spice to report savings up to ~3.5-4% of sales (Rs 400-500 million annually in the next two years), once it develops its own long distance infrastructure. Further leverage is expected from G&A on the back of increasing business scale. Overall, we expect margins to improve 580bps through H2CY06-CY08E.

Yet, restricted scope of business to keep margins lower than larger peers

Spice’s presence limited to two circles, where penetration is likely to reach 40-50% in the next two years, implies restricted growth options in the long run. Further, operating margins would be significantly lower than larger peers’ based on: i) lower proportion of on-net calls, ii) insufficient leverage of long distance infrastructure, iii) bargaining power for inter-connects, and iv) roaming with other operators.

Long term growth through expansion to new circles unlikely; probable acquisition to keep valuations high

Given presence in just two circles, long-term growth would only happen with Spice expanding its footprint, which would require strong funding (likely through equity dilution; debt would be too costly with CY07E D/E of 2x). In the present state of fierce competition and spectrum crunch, synergies from Spice’s operations make it a compelling acquisition target. This suggests ~25% premium over the company’s fair value of Rs 48/share through:
i) savings in capex, ii) higher operating leverage on the back of larger subscriber base, and iii) ready access to 3mn subscribers. Also, there would be a premium for management control. We recommend booking profits beyond stock price of Rs 60.

Spice Comm to list at around Rs 55-60: Experts

GSM based service provider Spice Communications will list on the bourses with 68,99,25,000 shares on July 19, 2007. The issue price fixed at Rs 46 per share. BSE ID is 532863.

Analysts told Moneycontrol.com that Spice Communication is expected to list at around Rs 55-60. They advised to book profits.

R S Iyer of KR Choksey Securities says, "Spice Communications is expected to list at around Rs 56-59. Immediate target for the stock will be at Rs 60 but if it crosses Rs 60 then book profits."

Investment Advisor, S P Tulsian says, "Spice Comm may list at around Rs 55-56. Investors can book profits as there are better companies available in telecom sector in valuation terms."

Manish Bhatt of Prabhudas Lilladher adds, "The stock may see a premium of Rs 12-15 on listing over its issue price of Rs 46. Short term investors can book profits otherwise investors can hold for long term."

The company had come out with initial public offering (IPO) of 1.13 crore shares at a price band of Rs 41-46 per share. The issue was oversubscribed by 37 times.

Spice Comm raised around Rs 523 crore in the upper end of the price band of Rs 41-46 per share.

A major portion of the issue proceeds would be used towards repayment of debt, payment of license fee for national (NLD) and international long distance (ILD) communication segments and payment to vendors for network equipments.

Enam Financial Consultants and UBS Securities Pvt Ltd are book running lead managers to the issue.

Sunil S Matkar -