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37. Jiten M.Pithadiya |   Link |  Bookmark | December 12, 2015 9:58:26 AM
at time premium in these IPO
36. vaibhav Hisaria |   Link |  Bookmark | December 12, 2015 9:32:12 AM
Dear All,

We have to understand that NH is one the biggest players in health sector. Many big firms like CDC, JP Morgan and AIG has invested in the company when it was a small company. The working style and pricing model is unique. NH is a price driver for Cardiac in Bangalore Market. If you are betting for short term then think for Long term the company will surely give good results.




36.15. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | December 13, 2015 1:28:43 PM
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Just 1 last submission Sir,

You may like to refer the Comment at Serial Number 13 of this discussion page (posted on Dec 11, 2015 10:49:13 AM IST) ... It might prove to be a helpful support in your justification for investing in this IPO.
36.16. vaibhav Hisaria |   Link |  Bookmark | December 13, 2015 2:42:35 PM
Sir,

Lets market respond I am very small investor and I go with some basic knowledge what I have taken during my CA studies.

Best way is to wait till 7th Jan instead of justifying here our point.
35. star ipo |   Link |  Bookmark | December 12, 2015 9:23:57 AM
World market may crash unexpectedly in January but Pharma share always do well in falling market,its defensive sector....go blindly....
34. Dilip Davda |   Link |  Bookmark | December 12, 2015 8:07:09 AM
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GMP came down from Rs. 60-65 to 40 with only sellers. It appears to be another UFO movies post listing due to higher valuation. Issue is at a P/E of 200+ against peers trading below 56 P/Es. Current pricing discounts all near term positives and thus short term gains are just a chance. Still it is definitely a good long term bet.

Dilip Davda
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Mumbai

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34.5. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | December 13, 2015 9:24:20 AM
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I have been LOOKING and LOOKING and LOOKING for it everywhere .. but I still cannot find where "the company itself claims pricing at 200+ P/E" ... I request your assistance to help me locate that information.

I even looked at "Basis of Offer Price" on pages 99-102 of the RHP, but unfortunately that too does not show that the "Issue is at a P/E of 200+"
34.6. Dilip Davda |   Link |  Bookmark | December 13, 2015 7:34:02 PM
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Eagleye, pl give your email, i will send a copy of the ad for your reference

Dilip Davda
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Mumbai

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33. YOGESH MEHTA |   Link |  Bookmark | December 12, 2015 7:14:59 AM
PREMIUM IS FINAL..NO BODY IN THE MARKET IS KING...
32. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | December 12, 2015 7:11:44 AM
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NH GMP 47-49 per share
31. Rajeev Kumar Singh |   Link |  Bookmark | December 12, 2015 2:30:05 AM
n most of the initial public offers (IPOs) of late, a general trend has been observed. In almost all the cases, a private equity player wants to cash out along with the company’s plan of raising money. There is an offer for sale (OFS) element during the IPO where only a part of the money raised goes to the company.

But in the case of Bengaluru-based Narayana Hrudayalaya, the purpose of the issue is only to give an exit to the private equity players. Through this public issue, investors like Ashoka Investment Holdings will sell up to 62,87,978 equity shares, Ambadevi Mauritius Holding up to 18,86,455 shares and JP Morgan Mauritius Holdings IV up to 1,22,61,648 shares. Further, even the promoters Dr Devi Prasad Shetty and Shakuntala Shetty will be taking some money home by offloading up to 20,43,608 shares each.
Narayana Hrudayalaya has a strong brand name and is among the leading companies in the healthcare space. It is one of the leading private healthcare service providers in India, operating a chain of multispecialty, tertiary and primary healthcare facilities.

At present, the company has a network of 23 hospitals (multispecialty and super-speciality healthcare facilities which provide tertiary care), eight heart centres (super-speciality units which are up in a third-party hospital) and 24 primary care facilities (including clinics and information centres), across a total of 31 cities, towns and villages in India.


Of the 23 hospitals, four are owned by the company, seven are being operated on a revenue-sharing basis, eight are on lease, while four are run on a management fee basis.
Overall, the company has 5,442 operational beds with a potential to reach a capacity of up to 6,602 beds. In FY 2015, their facilities provided care to over 1.97 million patients.
What differentiates Narayana Hrudayalaya from other hospitals is the market perception that the hospital has its heart in the right place. Dr Devi Prasad Shetty has won Padma Bhushan award for his contribution to the field of affordable healthcare. The company’s hospitals are considered to offer good service at reasonable price. This is reflected in the poor margins of less than 3% at the net profit level.

But the important point to note is that the company is venturing into areas where hospital facilities are scarce, especially in the northeast. Apart from these centres, the company is targeting Lucknow with a multispecialty hospital and Mumbai with a paediatric hospital as the growth centres. It is working with the government on a facility in Vaishno Devi.

Apart from locational advantage, the company’s strength lies in the speciality segments in which they operate. Narayana Hrudayalaya operates in six high-value specialty areas of cardiology and cardiac surgery, nephrology and urology, cancer care, neurology and neurosurgery, orthopaedics, and gastroenterology.

Further, growth for the company is not a costly proposition as it chooses the asset-light model where it moves into an existing asset. In order to expand its footprint, the company is seeking to be a partner of choice with the government and a few charitable trusts.

While the operating matrix of the company is strong, its stress on affordability is impacting margins. Parameters that analysts look at, such as average revenue per bed per day or occupancy rates are not comparable with the best in the industry.
Advise- Strongly recommended not to subscribe.
31.1. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | December 24, 2015 8:22:22 PM
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Finally ....did you apply in NH or not ?
30. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | December 11, 2015 9:21:32 PM
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Narayan GMP 48-52
29. EBERAJU |   Link |  Bookmark | December 11, 2015 8:32:47 PM
famous hospital in bangalore
28. IndianTrader |   Link |  Bookmark | December 11, 2015 8:29:16 PM
Dear Septa, eagerly waiting your analysis and inputs. Regards
27. N. Soni |   Link |  Bookmark | December 11, 2015 7:20:33 PM
I have sold some applications @800.i think narayana is not that creamy like dr. Lal n alkem.. Anyway its too early to comment. But personally i feel safe with kostak in narayana
26. Fesal memon |   Link |  Bookmark | December 11, 2015 5:55:09 PM
Apply ya avoid
26.1. star ipo |   Link |  Bookmark | December 11, 2015 6:37:40 PM
Apply blindly.....
26.2. Rajeev Kumar Singh |   Link |  Bookmark | December 11, 2015 9:13:58 PM
On what basis star IPO u r saying apply? Please avoid this IPO unless and until u don''t know how to spend ur money and want to waste it.
25. Fesal memon |   Link |  Bookmark | December 11, 2015 5:43:19 PM
Sir
All members ye ipo apply no?????
Reaply
25.1. Abhishek Karwa |   Link |  Bookmark | December 11, 2015 6:11:32 PM
Apply it
25.2. Rajeev Kumar Singh |   Link |  Bookmark | December 11, 2015 9:16:28 PM
Faisal just don''t believe anyone including me. Just go through details. If u feel its worth applying then apply. My personnel take on this IPO is that I m going to avoid it. Best of luck on whatever u do.
24. N. Soni |   Link |  Bookmark | December 11, 2015 4:02:30 PM
UPDATE:
ALKEM LAB :- PREMIUM 270 AND LIKEY TO LIST AROUND 350 PLUS PREM. MAY ALSO SURPRISE US WITH 400 PREM. ALLOTMENT RATIO 1:2
DR.LAL : 135 PREMIUM INCLUDING RETAIL DISCOUNT . MAY SURPRISE US WITH LOW PREMIUM. ALLOTMENT RATIO 1:2.7
23. N. Soni |   Link |  Bookmark | December 11, 2015 3:59:07 PM
KOSTAK PRICE 750/-
22. Chem cho |   Link |  Bookmark | December 11, 2015 3:40:06 PM
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AND THERE WE GO SENSEX HIT BELOW 25000
CLOSE 25044
21. Uchit Patel |   Link |  Bookmark | December 11, 2015 3:26:35 PM (500+ Posts, 1500+ Likes)
Company posted loss in year 2015. I got all no. from page 209 of draft - Restated Consolidated Summary Statement of Profit and Loss. My no.s are matching with Chittorgarh for income and profit for all years except year 2015. If my no. is wrong for 2015 then all no.s should be wrong (Income, Profit for all years). Company posted loss in year 2015. This is 100% true. Also, EPS shows negative for 2015 in draft.
21.1. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | December 11, 2015 3:54:50 PM
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DRHP is now outdated ... You may prefer to refer to the RHP dated 08th December 2015 .. here you will get more recent information including the Audited Financials for 6 months September 2015 .. it might help you better with your analysis ... just a suggestion.
21.2. Uchit Patel |   Link |  Bookmark | December 11, 2015 4:18:55 PM (500+ Posts, 1500+ Likes)
Sir,
I am referring the same RHP dated 8th December, 2015. I already posted no. of 6 months ended September 30th 2015 in my analysis and predicted EPS for whole year 2016 . Please check page no. 209. All nos are matching with Chittorgarh except profit(loss) of 31 Mar 2015.
20. vaibhav Hisaria |   Link |  Bookmark | December 11, 2015 3:22:31 PM
I think This will be great IPO considering the past of these in last 5 years they have grown 4 times and CAGR is 30% growth. Last financial year they had consolidated loss due to new up at Cayman Islands. Cay man health city is doing better.

The company is very well managed and growth is on the cards.

They have future expansion plan in Lucknow , Mumbai and Bhubneswar. Further also planning to take over some of the small groups. Net Debt is only of 200 cr.

As per me future is bright and profits will increase from here.
19. AARUSH |   Link |  Bookmark | December 11, 2015 2:44:43 PM
LATEST GMP
18. IPO Run |   Link |  Bookmark | December 11, 2015 2:07:21 PM
What is latest premium??