hai gem, ipofinder, ravi banglore, sj(setu),sreedhar and other esteemed borders,
may i ask one question to all knowledgeable person, i have been into the market since 1983 (ORKAY Ind.) and benefitted a lot. since last many years when price band of public issue announced, who gains? Only promoters of companies, Lead Managers, Registrar etc. and biggest loser is public only.
only fools invested and stay invested in these kinds of public issue like Midvalley, sekhavati, c mahendra, I do not know who applies in this kinds of public issues, I wonder when u see all the data since 2005, mind U as per my observation 9 out of 10 issues is still trading below their issue price, (however, listing price may show some degree of profits)
One thing I am not sure once the public float IPO is done and shares issued to public, 1. Who holds these junks of share because like other all issues are trading at discount (barring few). 2. Listing price is generally good or at premium, who is at loss (wonders who invests at exorbitant prince of IPO).
My question to all esteemed borders plese take the matter with SEBI and show all the data where almost every IPO has resulted in huge loss, why do not go to previous CCI (Controller of Capital Issue) era where public issues are issued at steep discount/fair value.
any comments in this regard is welcome..............
Currently GMP is 2 rs around but no one is willing to buy even at this rate
here chances of losing money is high as compared to profit
better to stop the cheques and wait for good quality issue to come Always remember Capital safety is more important than earning profits
Whenver the GMP starts getting down it's always better to get out, In grey market usually promoters starts buying shares, they buy 2-5 % share and make a healthy environment
RPOWER, A2Z, Midvalley are classic examples of these
Once the issue gets subscribed they disappears, are they fool to sell their shares at 70 and buy at 75 they are not fools, fools are we people(retailers) that's why we get trapped I think, I have answered to ur question...
i am buying back sail feb futures 3 lots sorted @ 186 @ around 161, i was thinking to ride it till fpo but now covering now i dont want fpo for the moment as no jiuce left in fpo ......
midvalley entertainment will be listed in discount do not compare it with shekhawati because size of issue of shekhavati was 36 crore while midvalley ent size is 60 crore 2. QIB portion in midvalley is not subscribe and this portion will added to retail investor /resulting selling pressure will be there 3 issue prize of shekhavati was 30 while midvalley is at 70 4 shekhavati is in business og spinning which is a booming industry now . see price / volume movement mandhana spg / bannari spinning / laxmi cotspin etc. other reason promoter have large numbers of distributors / agents / business supporters as they manage issue i.e promotor say his business associates to invest in ipo 50 lacs to 72 firms . issuue may be subscribe. while in case of midvalley entertainment all are BHIKHARI ? SEE THE SITUATION FROM MUKTA ARTS TO EROS exceptional case may be there like sun tv. so if you have applied without premium market forward soda , it is in your interest to book profit / loss on listing day in first 30 minutes. see you on listing day.
Dear Friends, I would like to throw my idea about the IPO success.
In India normally IPO is planned by the company to get as much money as possible from the public or the company may optimized the need and return. So nobody is here for charity and off course we are not trading / applying IPO for the charity.
Hence once you apply for the IPO you must keep in mind to get out at the listing day. If an IPO is listed above your acquisition price and stays for about 30 min then I would say it is profitable IPO. Here I am not considering the return on investment(ROI). I also not considering the possible manipulation of price on the listing day. This is only the price, that’s all.
Trading on a listing day or trading after that is not IPO related profit or loss. These are considered as a secondary market. Hence one compared the present price of a IPO against the offered price in past is purely useless. ( it is my opinion) Many a time it happened that IPO listed below offered price and subsequently on second day / month it picked up well above the offer price. For me it is not a good IPO. It is good secondary market bet.
Can you tell me how much shares u can buy at 3.5 also I don't execute grey market trades with unknown persons, IF you can give me the guarantee, I can give 1 lac shares in 3.5 Rs
To see the GMP on websites like smrtinvstmnt and greymarket is nothing..the real world is just different from these.
Also I don't spread negative news,and as far as shekhawati is concerned if u have talked to me I would have given you the shares in 2 Rs only...
Problem is not with the stocks but the whole banking sector. Since inflation is very high, RBI is expected to raise rates further leading to contraction of margins for banks. Further, pension liabilities, hit on bond portfolios, rising NPA, bribes for loan scam, CBI raids on some banks about telecom loans etc. are some other concerns for the sector. All these concerns aside, close to book value is a decent entry point for a long term investor, but buy in 2 - 3 instalments.
History says index could take a hit of 25% - 30% every two years. Now, bull market is two years old. Whether this happens or not, we need to be careful about this fact. Clear picture about correction is availabe at this expiry.
LIC Housing Finance (164) appears to be heading towards 120. For details, go to www.chittorgarh.com home page & click on "Ravi, Bangalore" tab.
IFCI (59)
RBI comes out with guidelines on application criteria for a banking license and then the 'recommendation committee' would take the final decision on who all would get the licenses. And this time around government is looking for applicants who are serious enough.
Given that IFCI had a very unhygienic past and it is termed as a 'failed institution' by some, the chances of it getting a license although it satisfies the applicant guidelines is doubtful.
At present the government is holding 523 crore worth of optionally-convertible debentures, which can be converted to equity shares.
The are reports in the market that the government may convert this debt to equity and thus dilute IFCI's equity. The price at which this conversion will be done will be very very important. According to Business Standard and many other sources, the conversion will happen at par. This is big negative.
If it does not get banking licence, its profitability will not jump dramatically.
No Conversion, No Banking license: Price target: Rs 43 (Book Value). Conversion at par, No Banking license: Price target: Rs 30.
Good entry points that I believe is in two instalments in 43 & 30.
Please note that in case of deep correction, this bull market heroes Financial sector & Auto sector would become villains & take few years to regain it peak.
Retail Portion Subscribed 9.01 times ....But, QIB not Fully Subscribed..so, shifted to Retail...Finally Retail Comes to 6 Times(Approx).....So, for 235 Shares/1 Lac & 470 Shares/2 Lac
both sail and tata steel may open around 8-15 feb.
both punj lloyd and jp asst are laggards , both are equal u can buy both instead of one,both have tremendous future value.both are almost equal on valuation front.