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July 13, 2018 8:29:16 AM
IPO Mentor (600+ Posts, 300+ Likes)
I sold my allotment of INNOVATORS on 28/05/2018 @71.2 and BUY again @68.2 on same date and same account. Finally sold the IPO allotment on 30/05/2018 as it was in T category at that time. My broker given AUCTION on 31/05/2018 @76.8. It is surprising to me as I sold my allotment on 28 and BUY again at lower circuit as fresh. Onwards sold it as T+2 on 30/05/2018. It is correct IMO. Please comment what is wrong here.
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July 13, 2018 11:30:23 PM
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Allotment to koi bhi time bech sakta hai.. Frod broker hoga..
stock is now out from T2T segment, with revised circuit filter of 20% from 5%. Volume and interest will rise in this counter. already up more than 5% intraday....
In an attempt to curb speculative trading, the National Stock Exchange (NSE) & the Bombay Stock Exchange (BSE), in consultation with SEBI, move stocks to the "trade-to-trade", "T2T" or "T" segment.
The move is a part of the preventive surveillance measure taken by the exchanges to ensure market safety and to safeguard the interest of investors.
In this segment, no speculative / intra-day trading is allowed and delivery of shares and payment of the consideration amount are mandatory. Each trade has to result in a delivery, even if you have bought and sold the shares during the same settlement cycle.
In the 'T2T' segment :-
> If you buy shares, you have to pay the money and take delivery. > If you sell shares, you have to give the delivery of shares and you will get the money. > No netting off is allowed, which means, if you buy today and and also sell today, the sell position will go in to auction, as you will not be able to give delivery, and you will have to pay a very heavy penalty.
One important criteria, is that, as on the review date, the security should be in 5% price filter band for at least 22 trading days. If a scrip does not meet this criteria, it cannot be moved to the "T" segment.
It must be therefore understood by traders, that the volume in this scrip is therefore all delivery volume, which is in fact a good measure of 'true interest' activity, to some extent. A high delivery volume could mean that a large number of investors are willing to buy and hold the scrip.
The "T2T' segment is not the worst segment for a scrip to be in. In fact you are protected with regards to price movement and complete speculation.The 'Z' group is the worst, and the one to be avoided. This was introduced by BSE in July 1999 and includes companies which have failed to comply with the listing requirements or have failed to resolve investor complaints or have not made the required arrangements with the depositories for demat of their securities.
Hi Rajkumar, who is the broker of the trade? Ideally he shouldn't have let you do intraday on T2T. You might get email from BSE asking for reasons why you performed intraday on restricted script. Please get some guidance from any experts/CA before responding. I don't think you will get the money equivalent to the shares you sold intraday anytime sooner - until this issue is sorted out (assuming that the Data Warehousing and Business Intelligence System (DWBIS) fraud detection system identifies your trade).
Thank You for all cautioned me for T to T. Without knowledge i bought and sold intraday. My broker said that whenever T to T counter places order it gives alert but Innovators counter does not give any alert so we performed intra day. Lets wait till monday whether the transaction settled or not.
Today my broker motilal clarifies with Delhi people and confirms it is trade to trade. I know what is trade to trade. But this counter i dont know whether it is trade to trade or not. Without knowing trade to trade this counter i performed. Cheque given for purchased shares. I cant arrange shares. So it will auction on monday after 1 pm.
Same thing happed to me in akshar spintex i buy 1 lot 33.40 same day price zoom 37.10 but i cant able to sale it .after four day again price was 37.10 in pre open i sale it that day
Exited my 2 lots on listing day almost at par. I think its better to avoid BSE SME's irrespective of LM, high subscription, and Vijay kedia etc. BSE SME's have been worst performer, either they will tank on listing day or afterwards. But they will tank for sure. See Dynamic Cables, Jhandewala etc
I dont understand why would people go to the hassle of buying lots for a SME IPO and selling on same day. It does not make any sense. SME IPOs is for long term.
Golden opportunity to buy this good quality stock in very cheap price, it will zoom till June 7th when it will be out of T2T segment. Already added a lot more today and yesterday too. Will hold at least for a year. After all this company is backed by renowned investor Mr VIjay Kedia.
This stock (Innovators) is facing effect of U H ZAVERY'S bad listing only, which will end soon. Nothing wrong with this company for sure. Really once in a lifetime golden opportunity to buy good quality shares around IPO price as much as you can, i have converted my all money into this quality shares in a average price (inclusive of all) of Rs 72.15. will buy 1 more lot on Monday as i have only that much of money left presently. You can find from basis of allotment that for sure allotment of 14400 shares (nearly Rs 8 lakhs) one had to bid more than Rs 9 crores. So guys take good advise from me and buy as much as you can. you will regret for sure if you don't. MARK MY WORD. This hangover will soon disappear and fresh uptrend will started soon. P.S.: This stock will be out of T2T category on June 7th 2018.
Agreed. I lost out in allotment. Got couple last week. Hopefully get 2 more at good price next week. Company has a good track record and is sitting on 250 crore order book (if promoters are to be believed). They have a good moat and operate in a good belt in Pune-Mumbai. With the current outlook of market, its understandable opening. For me this is a investment. Long term 1 or 2 years, this will be multibagger. Fact Kedia is anchor investor suggest gives that extra comfort to me
Some of QIB offloaded on listing day was reason of poor listing and onward selling. Now strong hands will probably come and stop further fall. I hope turn around from monday will be possible after panic sell by Retail, QIB and some HNI. Take your own call. It is just my thought. Any wxpert opinion welcome:.....
Dear CPHArun i have watched promoters interview on CNBC Aawaz at YouTube they have around 300 Crore order book presently & they even told that order book is not an issue for them and they can comfortably add 250 crores of orders at any time. Issue is only capacity & up gradation for which they are raising fund thru this IPO.
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May 28, 2018 8:52:18 AM
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Bhai Ani ne bhi 4 time 20 persant ki Cirket lagai thi. Abhi bhav dekho
Thanks secTheta. Looking at current environment, I feel wait and watch is good approach for some days to buy OPO. There management seems good, taking right steps.
INNOVATORS FACADE SME *Subscription QIB: 12.15 X NII: 93.89 X RII: 20.22 X *Total: 33.70 X Total No of App: 23995 + Anchors Allocation & NOW at LOWER CIRCUIT + UNDER RATE *****WONDERFUL !!! I think, We have to WAIT