Why I'm feeling ki.. those people who didn't received or got very less allotment. spreading negative sentiments abt HDFC AMC Listing . I don't know logic behind this. but as I know Chittorgarh is big forum and some of the members who got allotment may influence on the negative rumors spreading abt listing or people are comparing with ADAG group stock. ADAG Group is largely damaged in 2008 Crash and then they never tried to bounce back as ADAG Companies Governance issue. no doubt I was also a bullish on RelCap but Bad Time me sab stock k lag jaate hai . RPOWER was different business. 2008 ka Rally Crash Al was driven by FII this time is different people are more educated.
My View if u got multiple lots Say 3--4 then in sense book 2 on Listing Day and Remaining lots Hold for 2000 .. if 2000 comes then book 1 lot and then remaining lot Hold for long term with latest 52week low.
People also got 1 lot or 2 lot they can hold with some 1350--1400 stoploss .
HDFC is good governed group.. jab isme ADAG ya or companies type issue honge tab compare kro.. request.
Remember Reward is uncertain but Risk is the only thing which is in our Control..
Apne Apne Logic Risk Reward se Stoploss p HDFC AMC HOLD kro ..
Dear all groups are very good until there share are doing well reliance icici adani mittal etc but it does not mean ki there share will always on the top and might be one company doing well but it does not mean all will do same you can see TATA group where TCS is the market leader and TATA Motors continousely going down so HDFC is not only the group who will lead indian market it is only company business who will give returns and that's the reason for HDFC to down there rates from 1300 to 1100 in this ipo
@Sabby u r right .HDFC is not a only company to lead mkts.. but management is powerful as of now.. so jab group issue hoega tab exit kr leneg.. np.. but at present HDFC Group is Strong no matter what business they are running.. just imagine.. if Indian Mutual fund industry is having a 10% population target to invest via SIP / MUTUAL FUND in equity markets.. future is bright.. RNAM is 2nd Top leader in Mutual fund but it's trading at low valuations bcz every Investors want protection RNAM is trading low only bcz of governance issue. Baaki Bhaav Bhagwaan Che
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August 5, 2018 6:02:30 PM
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Out of curiosity, I was reading D-Mart IPO page on Chittorgarh itself. What i found was that exactly the same thing happened with D-Mart. I am not comparing it to D-Mart listing but there also many people were spreading negativity just a day before listing and comparing D-Mart as well to R Power, like it's being done here again with Hdfc Amc IPO. I mean why to create so much fear-mongering by small investors. We anyway can't take the listing to either of the direction, it is the QIBs, FIIs and the HNIs who decide the direction. As happened in the D-Mart, it might very well happen that here also these big institutions would corner the shares from retailers. No one can time the market. So just chillax, stick to your goals. If you think you made good money then get out. If you have the conviction to hold then stay. Leave everything else to god. Remember both the companies have same quality of management, cash generation (and in case of Hdfc w/o significant additional capex), Promoters name, strong leadership in their respective segments and more n more technical terms, etc etc. Let's just wait for another 16 hrs. Good luck and Cheers! ????????
depending on risk you want ro take, 1400 is gold ( we may never get) anything above 1650 will be riskey. It may go upto 2000 intraday or in few days...now its upto you how much risk you want to take.If you want to take riks buy 50 % in preopen and rest 25% and 25 % later after few days, holding peroid should be 10 years ( with yearly review of AMC biz)
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August 5, 2018 2:13:28 PM
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I never get allotment when Karvy is Register. In this IPO, also got nil allotment though I applied through 4 demat accounts of my family members. I get allotment when registrar is different. It can't be bad luck every time in good IPOs. Karvy was banned in past also for fraud in IPO allotment. Retail investors have no access to the allotment process to prove any allegation. Even if complaint is made to SEBI, simple reply will be that it happened due to oversubscription. I strongly feel that SEBI should depute its software experts during finalization of allotment, specifically in hugely subscribed IPOs to ensure fair allotment process because a small software command can change the whole allotment process.
From the HDFC groups past experiences the scrip move further up from the listing price and most of them proved to be a money multiplier, so those not successful in alottment also can buy from the secondary market & make gains in short time ..
Place order before 9.40 am, if you want to buy placed order at 1600 , place order at 1600 suppose listing is at 1560 then you will get share ..if listing is more then 1600 then you will not get share. Im not sure if market order works in pre open , so always place some price. If you want to sell then put price at 1400 then if listing will be at 1650 , shares will be sold at 1650..but if listing is at 1390 stocks will not be sold
Around 1.5 lakh applications got rejected in HDFC AMC Jolts to investors who applied without bank balance HDFC AMC Allotment and Listing :- All eyes in the market are on listing of HDFC AMC on August 6, Monday. It has got 6.73 times subscription in retail segment so allotment has been declared in ratio of 3.90. It should be noted that Smart Investment had predicted allotment of 13 shares to one out of four applicants. It is believed that the situation has taken place as 1.5 lakh applications have been rejected. When IPO closed on Friday, many investors made a bid despite lack of enough balance in the bank account. On the other hand, SBI, BOI, Central Bank, Canara Bank, Union Bank, United Bank, Kalupur Bank and Nutan Nagrik Bank, ICICI unblocked funds despite holidays on Saturday. So the bids of investors who planned to deposit money on Monday got rejected. Moreover, the bids of investors who didn't do any transactions in last six months also got rejected.
better to buy below 1600 .so i think u shld place order b4 9.45 @ nearby 1600+-25 . which looks little impossible but over tat price pls dont burn ur hand as there shld b sme risk for tat price . my self vil going to buy 500sh 1600+-25 . i think there vil b golden chance for long term investments as per the market sentiments. Good luck to all allottes and them also who wants to enter on monday .
*HDFC AMC CO* साल का 1000 करोड़ कमाती है और मार्किट कैप 23000 करोड़ है मतलब 23 के P/E पर शेयर 1100 रु प्रति शेयर में दे रहा है अभी *HDFCLIFE* भी साल का 1000 करोड़ कमाती है और उसका शेयर 84 की P/E पर अभी ट्रेड के रहा है यानी 3.5 गुना ज्यादा वैल्यूएशन पर ट्रेड कर रहा है दोनो कंपनी के Business Demanding है फिर वैल्यूएशन में इतना Gap क्यों ? HDFC AMC का शेयर अगर 600 रु ऊपर यानी 1700 रु पर लिस्ट भी हुआ तो 35 के P/E पर ट्रेड होगा बॉस ये शेयर फट जायेगा कोई फण्ड मैनेजर लिस्टिंग के बाद इस शेयर को नहीं छोड़ेगा अगर ये 15 दिन में 2000 रु भी चला जाये तो Surprise नहीं होगा *So Don't Sell It*
* HDFC AMC CO * Earns 1000 crores of the year And the market cap is 23000 crores On the P / E of 23, the stock is paying 1100 rupees per share Now * HDFCLIFE * also earns 1000 crores a year And its share is now trading at 84 P / E That is trading at 3.5 times the valuation Both are business demanding of the company Why so much gap in the valuation? If the stock of HDFC AMC is listed at Rs. 600 / i.e., ie Rs. 1700 then the trade will be on 35 P / E These stocks will burst A fund manager will not leave this stock after listing If it goes for Rs 2000 in 15 days then Surprise will not happen * So Do not Sell It *
* HDFC AMC CO * ஆண்டு 1000 கோடி வருவாய் ஈட்டும் சந்தை தொப்பி 23000 கோடி 23 பங்குகளில் ஒரு பங்குக்கு ரூ .1100 / பங்கு பங்குகள் வாங்குவதற்கான பொருள் இப்போது * HDFCLIFE வருடம் 1000 கோடி வருவாய் சம்பாதிக்கின்றது அதன் பங்கு இப்பொழுது 84 பி / இ இல் வர்த்தகம் செய்யப்படுகிறது அதாவது 3.5 மடங்கு அதிக மதிப்பீட்டில் வர்த்தகம் இருவரும் நிறுவனத்தின் தேவை வணிகம் ஆகும் மதிப்பில் ஏன் இவ்வளவு இடைவெளி? எச்.டி.எஃப்.சி. ஏ.எம்.சி. பங்கு விலை ரூ. 600 / - அதாவது 1700 ரூபாயில் பட்டியலிடப்பட்டால் வர்த்தகம் 35 ப / இல. இந்த பங்கு வெடிக்கும் ஒரு பங்கு மேலாளர் பட்டியலைப் பின் இந்த பங்குகளை விட்டு விடமாட்டார் இது 15 நாட்களில் 2000 ரூபாவிற்கு சென்றால், ஆச்சரியம் நடக்காது * எனவே அதை விற்க வேண்டாம் *
Sir. Aapke figures mein mistake hai. Hdfc amc ka ipo 31 ke pe ratio par aaya hai, and inot 23. Isliye, agar yeh 1000 crore kamaati hai tho 31000 crore value hai. Maana ki hdfc life 1000 crore kamaane par 83000 crore ki value par hai. But then, hdfc bank 1000 crore kamaane par 30000 ki valuation par hai ( 30 PE). So apple can not be compared to oranges. The maximum we can say is that avg PE of insurance listed cos is abt 58 and hdfc is 83 (roughly 40% premium), so if reliance nippon is at 27 PE, hdfc could list at 38 PE or abt 25% premium to 1100 or abt 300 rs. Any other analogy is incorrect. Take 40 PE and it means max 1500 rs value.
Hi Everyone, The nature of business of HDFC AMC is different from HDFC life.. Both cannot be compared.. Hdfc life income dependent on life insurance, medical insurance premiums received (During recession still customers pay premiums n continue insurance) HDFC AMC income dependent on people buying in HDFC mutual funds (During recession hardly few people buy MFs).. So always AMC companies trade low P/E compared to Insurance company... I still prefer to invest in HDFC life at Rs:500/- rather buying at AMC at 1,650/-... If you are alloted shares at Ipo price no harm in holding for long term
Dear Neelesh chouhan Are you tamilian. I am at coimbatore. Everybody stating listing on 1600 to 1700. But see the magic of HDFC It will list close to Rs.2000/=
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August 5, 2018 9:18:32 AM
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...quite logical ...let us wait & see till tomorrow ...oonth kis karvat baithata hai ....