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186. Monty Tailor |   Link |  Bookmark | September 25, 2018 4:38:59 PM
Can some one tell me if Aavas not subscribed fully and cancel the IPO then what happens if we trade in grey premium ?
Experts
186.5. SJ |   Link |  Bookmark | September 26, 2018 9:49:07 AM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (1300+ Posts, 3200+ Likes)
@ Moderator.Remove Display Name also.Thank you
186.6. harit |   Link |  Bookmark | September 26, 2018 9:53:02 AM
SJ
true
This group has prolonged and fruitful history and I/we wish it will go on and on
I admit I made lots of money and gathering much knowledge here
I see it will grow and more members joining us
Thanks
185. CPHArun |   Link |  Bookmark | September 26, 2018 1:40:27 AM
When the whole village is burning, someone new has come & started building a hut and asking everyone to come to the house warming party...

Why would any investor put their money in Aavas this week, when same investors could potentially pick stock of their choice in Nifty or midcap stock.

Some of the market stocks are now so low...Terrible timing for this IPO
185.1. harit |   Link |  Bookmark | September 26, 2018 9:43:55 AM
In this burning village
Some prominent (anchor investor) players
Has built their huts
And also some big fat brokerage houses
Advice to build your huts
Now it's up to us we should go with them or take other ways
No harm if one should skip this ipo
184. ReTelInvestor |   Link |  Bookmark | September 26, 2018 9:41:13 AM
Can any body correct me about "Offer For Sale"?

As this is offer for sale, out of Rs 1734.07 Cr of offer, almost 75% of money is going to promoters & only 25 % money is going to be used for company for future growth or to pay liability.

Just only 25% money is going to be used for company growth, Should investor invest in such IPO
183. Jaymin bhatt |   Link |  Bookmark | September 26, 2018 9:40:10 AM (200+ Posts, 100+ Likes)
This issue will not cancle Enjoy
182. harit |   Link |  Bookmark | September 25, 2018 7:09:35 PM
For my knowledge
Under which circumstances Ipo stand cancelled?( Under subscribe)
Supposed retail subscribe 50% or less
But hni&qib over subscribe and overall subscription go pass 1x
Then what happened??
182.7. RAJAKUMAR |   Link |  Bookmark | September 25, 2018 11:22:32 PM (1400+ Posts, 1200+ Likes)
Dear Harit,
Dont worry issue will sails through successfully.
Retail and HNI subscription is not necessary for sail through one ipo.
Qib must subscribe 90% of the issue.
My expectation qib is going to be above 10 times.
182.8. harit |   Link |  Bookmark | September 26, 2018 9:37:10 AM
I m also interested for this Ipo sail through
181. ???????????? IPO CALLING ???????????? |   Link |  Bookmark | September 26, 2018 12:35:31 AM
IPO Mentor IPO Mentor (900+ Posts, 700+ Likes)
MUMBAI : The modus operandi of operators involved in most stock market scams is very simple: pick up a stock whose price is sufficiently low and keep buying to drive up the stock price, and dump the stock once the price has gone up to a good level to book profits.

Ketan Vinod Parekh's modus operandi was no different. As Debashis Basu and Sucheta Dalal write in their book, The Scam - Who won, who lost, who got away, "Scam 2001 was fairly simple. Money picked up from half-a-dozen companies, a couple of banks and money procured from private sources (mainly NRIs) and put into a few select, bubble stocks that lost 95% of their value forcing a chain of huge defaults."

Ketan Parekh, like Harshad Mehta before him, took the market by storm for the short period of time that he became famous. It is said that he learned the tricks of the trade from the big bull himself and was one of the accused even in the 1992 scam. Having said that, Parekh seemed to have learnt from the mistakes Mehta made. He was a low profile market participant, at least initially and did not show a fascination for cars. As the authors write, "It was as though Ketan, who was the youngest of Harshad's associates in 1992, had learnt a lot from Harshad's meteoric rise and fall. After all, one of his closest advisors was Ashwin Mehta, Harshad's low profile brother."

Parekh also learnt from the mistakes other stock market operators had made. "The first step was the same basic trick in any stock operator's handbook: picking up substantial stakes from promoters at a large discount to the market price and putting the stock in 'play'. The rest of Ketan's steps, however, were different.

All operators have to necessarily think of an exit. To protect themselves from being saddled with dud stocks if something goes wrong, they usually have an understanding with promoters to sell the stock back to them. Having seen this technique from close quarters, Ketan knew that this was the Waterloo for many operators.

Most Indian promoters refuse to honour their commitment if things go wrong," write the authors

So, Ketan had to figure out where to dump his shares after ramping them to a high price. The answer was institutional investors. "So, he would identify stocks, take them up to appoint and dump them on to fund managers' laps. He had to anticipate beforehand whether he would create enough appetite in a particular stock for fund managers. Blend these three - choice of promoter, need for an exit (promoter buyback being a no-no) and focus on fund managers and you have Ketan's game plan."

Gradually, Ketan started making deals with entrepreneurs and building a stake in 10 stocks which were labelled as the K-10.

"It started with a dud stock like Pentafour, a 'profit making' software company quoted at a P/E of about 2. Ketan picked up the stock, generated massive liquidity and exited when the government-controlled mutual funds and retail investors got in. Following this, Ketan struck a deal with the late Parvinder Singh of Ranbaxy. To the amazement of fund managers and pharma analysts tracking it, Ranbaxy went up steadily on whispers of research breakthrough that nobody but Ketan seemed to know about. It could have attracted charges of insider trading but nobody probed."

But, as it often happens, success sucks people in. Ketan Parekh announced his arrival on the big league by hosting a huge millennium party on the new year's eve of 2000. As Sucheta Dalal wrote in one of her columns, "Top fund managers, financial institutions, bankers, CEOs (particularly the emerging software company brigade) and those who were part of the charmed circle around the big time stockbroker were the invitees. They were linked by a common factor — all of them counted their profits through market operations only in crores of rupees, the numbers varied from tens of crores to hundreds.

The guests assembled for a champagne reception at the Sea Lounge and were then ferried in high security catamarans across the s
180. kumar s |   Link |  Bookmark | September 25, 2018 11:32:37 PM
This issue will bomb and mr agarwal richly deserves it. Greed was undoing of many a man.

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179. kumar s |   Link |  Bookmark | September 25, 2018 11:32:24 PM
This issue will bomb and mr agarwal richly deserves it. Greed was undoing of many a man.

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178. Rajandis |   Link |  Bookmark | September 25, 2018 11:15:55 PM
out of 1700 odd crores, 1300+ are going to people who are exiting..only 400 cr going to the company...great minding of money by insiders who are exiting and ignorant ppl will enter!!!BEWARE guys!!!
177. Rajandis |   Link |  Bookmark | September 25, 2018 11:11:46 PM
at a PE of 60, it is a clear AVOID. NBFC high valuations have falled left right and centre in last few days as liquidity crisis is playing out...Inflation due to oil is going to play in next quarter and rate increase also in horizon so funding will be a problem for these NBCFs..moreover 75% is OFS which will not go to the company so all in all dont see great upside and changes of fall like HDFC AMC, DHFL, YES, Indiabulls etc are high.
176. APAPA |   Link |  Bookmark | September 25, 2018 9:30:06 PM
Boss yeh toh gaya......and on top of it comes the IL&FS issue. IL&FS is sooner or later going to collapse. I guess it has to collapse soon.
175. ???????????? IPO CALLING ???????????? |   Link |  Bookmark | September 25, 2018 9:22:44 PM
IPO Mentor IPO Mentor (900+ Posts, 700+ Likes)
French Fries, Mackrony & Pasta: IL&FS situation.

RBI - We are watching closely, nothing to worry.

SEBI - We are watching closely, nothing to worry.

FM - We are watching closely, nothing to worry.

LIC - We wont let it go down, nothing to worry.
*All of you coming out, and saying nothing to worry is so worrying.*
174. harryipo |   Link |  Bookmark | September 25, 2018 9:13:30 PM
those who bought shares in grey market book your position now.. premium will go negative once this ipo gets poor response on last day..
witnessed same in grameen..
173. ???????????? IPO CALLING ???????????? |   Link |  Bookmark | September 25, 2018 9:04:11 PM
IPO Mentor IPO Mentor (900+ Posts, 700+ Likes)
Here I first time post

Only seller in this counter ...

Ipo calling is faster than others .


172. N. Soni |   Link |  Bookmark | September 25, 2018 8:12:03 PM
IPO must go through else all grey trades stands cancel.. Its rules
171. N. Soni |   Link |  Bookmark | September 25, 2018 7:23:59 PM
6-8 new low.. Aavas
170. harit |   Link |  Bookmark | September 25, 2018 6:48:13 PM
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169. N. Soni |   Link |  Bookmark | September 25, 2018 2:02:57 PM
Aavas 11-14
169.1. ???????????? IPO CALLING ???????????? |   Link |  Bookmark | September 25, 2018 4:29:57 PM
IPO Mentor IPO Mentor (900+ Posts, 700+ Likes)
Before 2 to 3 days I said that gmp 11
169.2. N. Soni |   Link |  Bookmark | September 25, 2018 6:27:43 PM
At that time.. GMP was at 30-35
168. bangadgopallal |   Link |  Bookmark | September 25, 2018 5:54:03 PM
Would it advisable to apply at 56 pe


167. Circuitmamu |   Link |  Bookmark | September 25, 2018 5:16:50 PM
AAVAS FINANCIERS LTD Subscription
25-9-2018 @ 05:17:01 PM
QIB => 0.1153
NII => 0.0010
RII => 0.0227
TOTAL => 0.0445