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41. A K Mishra |   Link |  Bookmark | July 23, 2017 10:41:05 PM
May be subscribed or not in retail category.
40. MINTO |   Link |  Bookmark | July 23, 2017 2:06:33 PM
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Friends,
I have 4 Demat how its possible to all 4 application apply to one bank account.
Some body says SBI provided this facility to submit all 4 application.
But how its possible. The name and pan no saved first time.
How possible to apply all 4 for one account?
please reply step by step.
40.6. ShareView |   Link |  Bookmark | July 23, 2017 3:21:28 PM
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Again repeat the same precess .
You will find edit & delete option .
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40.7. MINTO |   Link |  Bookmark | July 23, 2017 10:38:35 PM
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OK SHAREVIEW
THANKS
39. H.dusad |   Link |  Bookmark | July 23, 2017 7:39:30 PM
please tell weather to apply this ipo or not
38. Uchit Patel |   Link |  Bookmark | July 23, 2017 5:32:59 PM (500+ Posts, 1500+ Likes)
Quess came with 45 P/E and SIS is coming with more than 80 P/E. Quess enjoys high P/E now because of high growth. Within last three year it shows robust growth. Where is growth in SIS?
And SIS is asking very high P/E.

See quarter by quarter results of SIS and then enter. Otherwise we have seen snowman logistics before- very high P/E at ipo time but failed to show growth.
38.1. Rakshit |   Link |  Bookmark | July 23, 2017 6:27:08 PM
SIS PE is 62, not 80. Quess is trading at 100. And on EV/ EBITDA the discount is even steeper.

Quess'' growth is largely from buying companies that is why their return ratios are weak.

30% YoY growth in EBITDA and 20% growth in PAT for SIS is terrific and because of largely organic growth, their usage of capital is better. Of course the market will decide where it will settle at.
38.2. ShareView |   Link |  Bookmark | July 23, 2017 7:13:48 PM
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Dear Uchitbhai ,

At 815 , SIS is priced at 62 P/E
So it has potential to reach 100 p/e.

Quess is trading at 100 p/e and was priced at 45 p/e at the time of its IPO.
But let me tell you that at that time it was compared with NAUKRI.COM which was trading at 45 p/e ( price was 750 approx ) at that time and now it is trading at 62 p/e. CMP 1000+.EPS 16 approx.

Conclusion :

At the time of IPO of Quess it was priced at par with NAUKRI however SIS is priced below par with Quess and at par with NAUKRI.
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37. 💰 💰 |   Link |  Bookmark | July 23, 2017 7:11:07 PM
Salasar listings day kya karna chahiye..??
36. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | July 23, 2017 7:03:27 PM
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SIS IPO – Schedule – Page #537 of RHP

24th July – Price Band to be Announced
28th July – Anchor List
31st July – Offer Opens
02nd Aug – Offer Closes
02nd Aug – Finalisation of Basis of Allotment
08th Aug – Unblocking of ASBA
09th Aug – Credit to Demat Accounts
10th Aug – Listing on NSE & BSE
35. Mutyala Ramalingachowdary |   Link |  Bookmark | July 23, 2017 6:27:57 PM
Advice apply for 18 shares or multiple which is best
34. Chirag Sheth |   Link |  Bookmark | July 23, 2017 5:48:33 PM
Premium ?????
33. Uchit Patel |   Link |  Bookmark | July 23, 2017 9:46:37 AM (500+ Posts, 1500+ Likes)
-SIS

I think comparison with Quess is not convincing to me. Quess is providing staffing for skilled workers like IT, HR etc. where profit margins are very high. Promoter of Quess is well known Thomas Cook.

SIS is dealing with security staffing only where profit margin is very less. Non skilled workers are required. If we see revenue and profit for last few years net profit is only 2 - 3 %.
It''s very hard to make money from non skilled workers staffing company.
33.3. PavanM |   Link |  Bookmark | July 23, 2017 2:47:23 PM
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Can we buy Quess at CMP then? ..Uchit Patel/Gamble or Septa Sir, please reply.
33.4. Uchit Patel |   Link |  Bookmark | July 23, 2017 4:30:52 PM (500+ Posts, 1500+ Likes)
Quess is good company. Buy on every deep and go for long. Many times recommended on CNBC also.
32. Rajkumar Bhuj |   Link |  Bookmark | July 23, 2017 4:20:26 PM
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@Experts:

What is the fair value and what could be listing price of this IPO? I have traded in Grey market premium on guidance provided by Septa, Eagleye and others and have earned handsomely. Would like to repeat the same.
31. Vinayagrawal |   Link |  Bookmark | July 23, 2017 3:31:23 PM
If bank make double bid and application recject is it possible complain of bank any where
30. sanjayb |   Link |  Bookmark | July 23, 2017 1:39:58 PM
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30.1. ShareView |   Link |  Bookmark | July 23, 2017 2:10:36 PM
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This site page shows

Refunds : 22 July

Listing : 9 July

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29. jacpersonal |   Link |  Bookmark | July 23, 2017 11:45:55 AM
i have demat a/c in marwadi and bank a/c in ICICI which is linked with demat. but my bank a/c icici has been closed/dormat since 3 years and demat a/c is active till day. now i want to apply an IPO for SIS with my SBI online through ASBA. can i do or not ? or i must have to change bank a/c with demat first !
Before changing linked bank with demat, can i apply for IPO with my another bank online ASBA ?
plzzzzzz suggest
29.2. Vijay M Agrawal |   Link |  Bookmark | July 23, 2017 2:05:05 PM (300+ Posts)
You can apply from any bank but after sale of shares money will be deposited in icici bank, it is better to change your bank details in your account with marwadi
29.3. Ashish Khater |   Link |  Bookmark | July 23, 2017 2:05:39 PM
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U can apply ipo in any bank. Your linked account does not matter. U change it when u feel so. Because u will need to credit proceeds to the linked account if u sell the ipo if alloted to u.
Jai Jinendra....Jai Shree Ram
28. Dev Chaudhary |   Link |  Bookmark | July 23, 2017 1:50:37 PM
Any Senior members plz clarify if the SIS NAV is around 79 then what will be the approx issue price per share in yours view?
810-815 बहुत ज्यादा नही हो जाएगा?

27. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | July 23, 2017 12:43:48 PM
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SIS IPO

GMP 164 – 166
Kostak 200
26. gamble |   Link |  Bookmark | July 23, 2017 10:54:09 AM (1600+ Posts, 3900+ Likes)
Quess is at 99+ PE because of,,

last 2 yr CAGR

...........................quess.... ........sis
Bottom line .......27%..............13%
Top line.............29%................20%

Also Quess can cont. Outperform SIS(if comparison is right)..

.so,, SIS may not deserve this high PE 100

Plus Quess ipo 317 i.e ipo time only 45+PE

Sis ipo 815 so already 62 PE( greedy.. !!)

......so if this 815 ipo price than return will not more then 2-3FD .
Market playing imp role in price band.
26.2. Uchit Patel |   Link |  Bookmark | July 23, 2017 11:10:11 AM (500+ Posts, 1500+ Likes)
Absolutely right gamble. Quess is totally different than SIS. Quess deserves high P/E because of high growth.

SIS is asking very P/E. Please be cautious before applying.
26.3. Rakshit |   Link |  Bookmark | July 23, 2017 11:32:23 AM
Quess went at 45 times PE but moved up 60% on day1. So it was seriously undervalued and hence got a steep jump on Day 1. One can''t expect that windfall every time. And you are not comparing like to like. SIS PAT will also improve after interest repayments as they are saying in their objects. So that is why EBITDA should be looked at - for the same EBITDA at 223 cr, with a better ROCE and RONW, SIS is going at a 50% discount. No brainer in my view.
25. modis |   Link |  Bookmark | July 23, 2017 10:37:50 AM
Mam apply and sold in kostak or hold all 20 applications
24. MINTO |   Link |  Bookmark | July 23, 2017 10:33:40 AM
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SEPTA SIR
your view is most impotent .
please comment.
23. Dev Chaudhary |   Link |  Bookmark | July 23, 2017 9:54:54 AM
* Security and Intelligence Services (India) Ltd''s initial public offering to open on July 31, close on Aug. 2 (Reporting By Mumbai Desk)
22. DSPP |   Link |  Bookmark | July 23, 2017 9:29:58 AM
Hello Friends,
I am new for IPO and share markets.
Please suggest, should i go for SIS