Parabolic Drugs Limited IPO Message Board (Page 4)

Dear Gane,
I am eagerly looking forward for UCO bank FPO which is 500 Cr Issue.It will come in July.You can invest in it as we can get it at 15 percent discount to the market price.Actually I had bought it at 55 & sold it at 70.Now it is at 80.I expect the FPO price to be in the 60s.

Dear Ali Bhoy Sakar Bazar Wala,
I think the next IPO is Technofab Engineering which I think will be exciting.Date batao yaar.

i am more careful now as I have lost some money in indiabull power, JP infra and little bit in SJVNL. I am not worried about NMDC as it will definitely give good return in a year from now.

I skipped standard charted, fatpipe, parabolic, etc..

Gane.

Shreedhar,

Yes. I am still holding ITC. Its climbing up now and I think it will reach 300 level soon for the sake of Bonus announcement which is due on 18th june.

Also I think this is good company to have it in the portfolio for longterm. I am now looking and anlysing gem companies which will give good returns in short term as dividends, bonus, etc as well as good to be in the portfolio for longer term. I am watching the stocks like power finance, indian oil, Gail, SBI, and other banking sector stocks closely now. Do you have any such companies in mind?

Thanks for your timely advice about ITC. Still I did not get the dividend credited in my account. But i hope that I am not losing in this stock for sure.

Gane.

Dear Gane,
Are you still holding ITC ?

Dear Natarajan,
I had bought 4 companies shares the day when market hit its low i.e 7.7 K.In that one was Punj Lloyd .It was around 160.After I bought market went down 200 points more Intraday but Punj did not go down.Later on the same day Sensex recoverd 500 points Intraday & I was in profit in Punj Lloyd straight away.During that time I traded in Punj Lloyd several times.I sold Punj Lloyd at 275.After that I have never touched it bcos the Company has been delivering disappointing results .The state of it is such that when market has doubled it has halved .So If I did not sell it at 275 just Imagine how I would have felt.Every time it delivers such results people have been buying saying this is the last time it has delivered such poor results.So I donot think there is any great rationale in buying such companies unless they deliver to the expectations & create confidence.Aban fell from 5000 to 200 level bcos it was heavily leveraged.Even now It fell from 1200 to 600 on account of a single rig lost bcos it is heavily leveraged.It is good to trade them but not to invest bcos a small adverse development will crush them.I did not buy Tata Motors when it was 160-170 bought bought at 260 bcos then I was confident that it will deliver the results & It has not disappointed me.So my mantra is always buy when it is on uptrend rather than when it is in downtrend .Even I am trading in Aban since it has beaten down heavily & it will give occassional bounces definitely.

LODHA BUILDERS WHO HAS ALREADY RECEIVED SBI APPROVAL IN FEB IS SHYING AWAY FROM PUBLIC ISSUE SINCE LAST SIX MONTHS IS LOOKING FOR AN OPPORTUNITY TO RAISE FUNDS AT HIGH PRICE AND IS ADVERTISING ITS 100 FLOOR PROJECT TALLEST BUILDING TO LURE PUBLIC PL BEWARE OF THIS ISSUE IT WILL BE HIGHLY PRICED AND SOME DEAL WILL TAKE PLACE LIKE STANDARD CHARTERED DO NOT INVEST YOUR MONEY IN THIS ISSUE

Interesting fact
For QIB it is closing on June -16
For Retail it is closing on June -17

means it will definitely pass through, lets see what happens tomorrow

62. vicky, kalyan

Analysts should be socially responsible. That is correct.

Problem is Analysts recommend to their institutional clients, their subscribers (retail investors like us). When their recommended stocks move in opposite direction, they give open recommendation in TV, Paper, SMS, Interenet, Messenger, blog etc. in order to get rid of those stocks & thereby common investors end up holding at high prices.

Analysts do such things by design, not by default.

In stock market, people must loose either money or time. Investors loose time & get money. Traders loose money but get time (traders cut position in a day or in a week or month). So, they have time but loose money.

If after two or three years, long-term investors underpeform broad market, then investors loose both time & money. That is the worst situation. That is worst than traders. Eg: Property stocks underperforming broad market and even many mid & small caps underperforming.

Why Warrent Buffet successful? He buys in panic situation. i.e. when broad market looses 10% - 20% or individual stocks loose 40% - 50%. In USA, market is less volatile compared to Indian market. Even he has patience to wait for two to three years for his turn.

He reads loads of informations like Annual Reports, Directors speech. Even he questions rationale of credit rating agencies.

What we do? We will wait for three months, & if market does not correct substantially, we loose patience & end up buying at high levels, then market correction begins. We invest because our friend told, somebody put post in some site etc.

ravi, banglore

No two people think alike. Everyone style of investing is different. Tracking your investments every six months/year is not that hard. If one has to take the challenging job of predicting midcap and small-cap, then he is rather playing a riskier game.

Analyst should be socially-responsible citizen. After all, people invest their hard-earned money in thier suggestions. This is ethics. this is why SEBI is formed. Analyst are already paid BIG MONEY to give advise to instituitional investors, on TV, blogs etc. When they take money to promote a weak fundamental company, it is like taking bribe under the table which is unacceptable.

Whats the sense in this statement that traders loose money but have time and investors loose time and money? Investing in Large caps eliminates risk to a great extent. This cannot be compared with investing in mid and small-caps.

today ..PARABOLIC DRUG... ipo is in hospital..tommorow it will be shifted to ..I.C.U. ..day after tommorow ,..every one knows result

Fair value seen at Rs.39. Issue looks overpriced. Avoid the IPO.

Criticisms of Fundamental Analysis

There are two common arguments against fundamental analysis. Some believe that stock prices already reflect all that is known. As a result they believe it is impossible to outsmart the market and identify mispriced stocks using publicly available information.

The second argument against fundamental analysis is simply a matter of practically. There are so many different variables with regard to how a stock or the economy is going to perform in the future: there are economic factors, environmental factors, completion, currency fluctuations, changes in technology, the possibility that the information you have is not true or accurate etc. For this reason many people say that it is (almost) impossible to use fundamental analysis to forecast the impact of all these different factors and make money as a result.

Does fundamental analysis work?

I believe that fundamental analysis does work. In fact most of FIIs / DIIs / MFs with a long track record of market beating performance are fundamental analysts.

Why I don’t prefer Fundamental Analysis?

Most investors underwent a depth of analysis that was beyond the capabilities of the average investor. They often meet with company management and got ‘inside’ a business before investing in it. They had the resources to check that a company’s balance sheet was in-line with reality.

Personally I don’t have the intelligence or the motivation to go to such lengths before making an investment.

What are your thoughts? Do you think that Fundamental Analysis is a realistic path to stock market success for the average investor who works a 9-5?

It is better to read 3 - 4 borkerage house reports & buy at bargain i.e. to buy when the stock has 25% upside potential for large-caps, 35% upside potential for mid-caps & at least 50% upside potential for small-caps.

Fatpipe ipo withdrawn just now . its a big hit for ipo markets

sandeep

Dear all,
Thanks for your good advice,Now i have decided that before subscribing for any IPO'S, i should must observe your comments for the better investments

now a days 70 cores cannot be collected from the public from ipo what about 200 cores it an big sum, Ipo investors have be duped by brokers who had asked to apply and they have no money to apply while cleaver guys are reaming in the market who apply in good companies
thanks` brokers loot for guiding us`
BROKERS LOOT ADVICE IS GOOD

tara health foods lesson was not learned by fat pipes and also parabolic drug is to be admitted to first standard school class to at least learn abcdefg of ipo

WITH ONLY 0.15 TIMES SUBSCRIPTION AT THE CLOSE OF FIRST DAY , THIS ISSUE IS ALSO BOUND TO BE DOOMED.

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I know analyst like shankar sharma, tulsyan, matthew are all cheat. "One should only have less than 10% amoount invested in small and mid cap"

MR WARREN BUFFET IS AN ORDINARY MAN WITH EXTRAORDINARY TALENT.

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shankar sharma, tulsyan, matthew may be cheats. Do you think any analyst is doing social-service? It is capital market. If anybody gives you free-lunch, what is their intention? You may need to pay higher price for taking that free-lunch later.

Can you follow Warren Buffet recommendations? He has also vested interest.

I have great respect for Warren Buffet. But I don't give too much importance for his opinion before taking my decision.

39. vicky, kalyan

Your points are correct. But my point is Warren Buffet style does not suit everybody.

If you hold for very long-term (20 - 30 years), then any A group share can give superior returns provided you track them closely every six months.

Predicting mid-cap & small-cap is a challenge. 75% of small-cap shares will fail to deliver even if you hold for long-term.

Talking of long-term is easy. Can investors really hold for such long-period? People who bought Shree Ganesh below 125 also get pinched by seeing tickers everyday. They are at pains to see 115 on board (I don't have holdings).

We buy only 10 or 20 shares and at least 60% of them are mid-caps & small-caps. In this style, there is risk of underperforming broad-market. If a trader loses, it is acceptable in some sense. Traders loose money but has time. But if long-term investors underperform, it is utter foolishness. They loose both time & money.

I don't buy any share for very long-term. My long-term is only 6 - 9 months. Normally, I get 20% - 30% kind of returns in one to three months. For long-term, I invest in three mutual funds having more than three years track record. I track their performance every six months.