Kotyark Industries Ltd IPO Message Board (Page 3)

HNI/NII ?
And do you know how much maximum percentage shifting like this can be done?
Have you read sebi sme rule terms or just guessing based on past allotments?

Very difficult to get in Retail.
You should have applied 2 lot in HNI.

@Dinesh,
What are the chances if I apply 2 lots in HNI?
considering HNI at 2.76x

in Retail,
I understand the probability is 1 out of approx 9.
Considering 8.56x

G J,
Your probability is 1 out of 2 in HNI.

Is it same as retail? probability basis.
or proportionate basis?

@lokes are you applying?
No chance of allotment if applied in retail at 4 PM
Need to apply in HNI before 3 PM.

ya i will apply for around 5 lots in HNI, so that either i can get 1 lot or nothing.
will apply around 2.55pm. Like in DK, some HNI quota shares may move to retails so HNI final subscription will increase during allotment .
Will apply 1 retail application also using zerodha upi.

@Amit I also applied 2 applications just now, as my bank time for applying is 2 PM.

In My View if u want allotment u should apply for least 2 more applns.

I have applied as per my funds availability. There are 2 mainboard ipos also. I will try to apply these also. Thanks for your suggestion.

@amit: you are out of DK enterprise or still holding?
atleast i sold on friday and that proved good decision as of now.

Lokes ji Sold toady at LC

Please confirm whether the current Retails subscription of 8x include the application through UPI who may not accept the mandate later.

@spock: what do you mean by hni subscription trend similar as markolines?
in markolines, total subscription was 2.8 times only in hni and here its 2.3 times already and expected to cross 10times on last day in hni

Yes, I agree with you. Markolines subscribed 1.94x on day one.. And end up to 2.78x on day four.

@Lokes,
Master strock already explained, thanks.
I will apply 3 retail apps only if HNI crossed 10 times.

somehow i dont trust this LM, they have deliberately listed DK with 5-10% gain only with putting sell orders at Rs20 price around 9:43 am.

@spock: understood your intent about hni subscribe trend ....
But how LM can put sell orders, how they will be having so much shares? You mean setting with operators etc?
And am not able to understand why LM would not want to have good listing, why he will try to list lower a ipo which he is handling?

@lokes,
Very first day of this IPO opening i had mentioned HNI already 2X
at 10:15 they have already bidded two applications for full HNI quota in each application.
I hope you will get ans from where they got shares, its totally operator driven game.

at 10:15 am HNI 2X and still its under 3X. same situation in marksonline and many more IPOs.

@spock: ok you mean with the help of operators they are doing all this manipulation in subscription and listing....fine.
What about my last question in last message? Any reason for that ? What benifit they would be getting by deliberately listing their IPOs lower? Since I see later also their ipos are not moving so grea, so that logic is not possible that they want to buy retail shares by listing lower etc etc.

Dear Lokes Jee.

Please Advice Views for applying in this ipo or not.
Thanks

L m has responsibility post listing also stock should trade at some normal level.
Operator can''t dump stock at higher price because they understand their buffer range where they can control the stock. they keep selling and buying in their range only in various trading sessions to show stock is trading in normal way.
its again depends on SME IPO size company fundamentals. Later they know how to distribute shares to other investor also. At least in 50 % SME IPOs such ways are followed.

Do you really think retail investor are buying SME IPOs post listing?
Why in DK Rs20 sell order came at very last time when there was no any single seller available below Rs40 before 9:43 am? Because they need to calculate sell order price to list stock in their pre-decided price.
They are dealing in CRs and they are very smart and better know how to prevent their capital and make profits.

@spock:
As you said: "Do you really think retail investor are buying SME IPOs post listing?"
it depends on which ipo, definitely they are buying in many good ones....
ya low price sell orders during pre-listing would be from operators etc.
Still as you said , may be 50% sme ipos are controlled but not all, as i have seen many sme ipo listings and after price, observations now in last 2 months....

ya as u informed it is aggressively priced but high growth scope is there in future and since company belongs to energy sector which is in demand so this ipo will command some price premium....

so i feel it can be applied tomorrow also after DK enterprise listing.
Need to be careful only if DK lists in discount (hopefully that wont happen)

This kotyark should be having good subscriptions if no other good mainboard ipo opens by 26th oct....nykaa last date is 1st nov, by then kotyark funds will be released

Dear @Lokes,

I''m planning to apply this SME IPO from ICICI Bank ASBA. Are you sure funds will be released for Nykaa IPO?

Thanks
Suneel