There are clear growth trends here but these are small retail stores having competition from other organized businesses as well e-commerce. Operating margins clearly on a upward trajectory. Even on super earnings the valuation looks extremely expensive. I doubt it will see Fone4 fate given it's profitability but upside will be restricted with such steep pricing. I am certainly not risking as I don't find any niche here.
17. hbk| Link| Bookmark|
August 22, 2022 7:04:25 PM
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I am from Rajkot. They have showroom in Rajkot. Whenever I pass by the showroom, it is empty without/one or two customers only most of the times. They have changed the location of their showroom twice within 3-4 years within the city.
One of my frnds has a big house....and it has 20 stores in it and all r on rent to different vendors .... They should also raise money like this..... Seems like u can have ipo for anything now.... Mobile rapair shop ko technology limited bolna bhi ab fashion hi hai....
16.1. aspirant| Link| Bookmark|
August 19, 2022 6:07:42 PM
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Yes.. you are absolutely right @takamichi😂😂🤣.. if SEBI is sleepy like this, any kind of bogus business can be sold easily on the label of SME ipo.. and there are retailers like us always to buy and burn hands completely... There should be some serious scrutiny/ proper set of listing rules.
By the way your name looks like Japanese one for me,😀..
Sebi don't analysis or verify the balance sheet of sme ...that's why sme have a seprate platform. Infact sebi don't care about inside trading in sme unlike mainboard.
Ye sab sunke hi mene apply nahi kiya. Dekho aaj listing 😕. Kore mobile achhi brand he shop chain ki muje pata he , Rajkot me dekha he mene par opinion sun ke esa esay allotment vala sme avoid kar diya. Kya luck he
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September 8, 2022 11:31:18 AM
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@ Nilay, agree with you. Many people probably skipped for the same reason. But, I will say, decision is individual's own. Old saying, 'Suno sab ki, karo apne man ki.'
16.8. Takamichi| Link| Bookmark|
September 8, 2022 11:33:21 AM
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Nobody expected this type of listing.... Anyway some hni, operator and cash houses are poring money .... If it was too good, you should have applied.... Even I applied seeing subscription number though didn't get the allotment ..... Most of people here applied seeing subscription number only..... Moreover nowhere it was said that don't apply in it.... It was a pun message and it still holds.... If you can't even decide when to apply what all to see then mutual fund is better option for you than cry like this here......
@nilaykumar no bhai aa satto j chhe.... emna setting ma aapdi pattar thokai jai... example 1. naturo subject 30k hato ane (-20k ) loss ma khuylo... example 2. dipna fix 1150 hatu ne ( - 18k ) loss ma khuylo... jay jalaram subject 7k hato ane 42k naafe khuylo....
have e sadagtu koi pakde !! hamna undhu ghali didhu hoy to !! etle j oprator sivai koi no ade.. kato news hova joe... kato kulla majboot hovo joe... aapdu bey dhilu hatu..lol... ane jatu ryu e jatu ryu... navu goto kamava malse j.... all the best mota bhai...
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September 29, 2022 12:45:04 AM
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@shaukar @tureinfo thanks for understanding and explaining.
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September 29, 2022 1:34:13 AM
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@takamichi noticed this reply today. The comments in this forum affects individual decesion and your comment was too much negetive. You are also crying on the company ipo debut and criticizing openly , you should reach out to SEBI , not here.
Moreover it's not only mobile repair shop that you mentioned here , It is mobile selling shop chain with good customer base. It's competing with e commerce brand boldly and generating good turnover in mejor city of Gujarat. I personally visited their store in past and you commented negetive without proper research of what business is and how it's doing. anyways close the matter , I was not intended to personally blaming you , many also commented the same.
@nilay dekh bhai sab accha tha toh apply kar leta .... Ye ek forum hai diversified views aayenge ....it's on u which one to take and which one not to take..... U coming heee after seeing the listing is the dumbest thing ....... And ye joke chalte rehte hai...... Llyod pe bhi chala and those who wanted to apply did that and many didn't apply
Maine bhi yha(kobe) apply Kiya tha..... Company ke financials pe logo ne apply nahi kiya tha gmp and subscription pe kiya tha..... Company ke financials acche hai toh abhi bhi le le.... Jinko financials pe bharose hota hai woh pre-open mein bhi kharid lete hai.... Tu rota reh bus and doosro pe baat dalta reh.... @trueinfo ji i would like to ask u what was ur reason for applying? Following ur trails it was purely gmp, subscription and then anant ji message on applying....the financials ans the sector was never the bright side .....No body expected it to list the way it did and it could have gone anyway ..... And the pun made there still exist and it was a pun.... there was no recommendation.... Retrospectively when u analyse it very easy the light the match.....
And if this message made anyone to skip this then they learned a lesson worth a lot more..... An unrealised profit don't hurts what hurts is a realised loss and the same people would have applied in a hollow and failed ipo reading some extravagant lines from some promoter .....so its a good lesson to learn and use a wholesome analysis to apply
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August 20, 2022 6:27:58 PM
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Dilip sir ne May Apply ka call diya he, kuch samaj nai aa rha
Cash surplus ho to apply for long kar do. Waise Cash surplus parking for long ke liye aur bahut opportunities hain available market (even small cap and SMEs) with far less risks.
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August 21, 2022 2:12:48 PM
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Yes, difficult to understand why Dilip Sir has recommended it because they seem to be having only Electronics shops.
Out of topic : I am bit disappointed with the name of this Company,Jay Jalaram. My personal feelings. Shri Jalarambapa is a Saint from Gujarat. A small village 'Virpur' from district Rajkot. Many people of this forum are aware of this. This is well known name in our country as well as abroad. Because Gujarati people are spread all over the world. My mother is from 'Virpur'. Jalaram Temple is in Mathura run by Chobejis and one in Calcutta run by Bengali family. In many other places but generally managed by Gujarati community. If not a good company one should avoid keeping this name. Promoter also seems tobe follower of Jalarambapa. All my personal feelings. Sorry if anybody mind my feelings.
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August 21, 2022 2:27:29 PM
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I express my gratitude to those forum members who are sharing local information of their areas and helping in differentiating between genuine and fraudulent SMEs. Evaluation of SMEs is a difficult task in comparison to main board IPOs.
12. GJ 😀| Link| Bookmark|
August 21, 2022 2:26:53 AM
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kisi ko Fone4 yaad he? Does anybody remember Fone4?
This may be a reminder for those people who invested in Fone4 (like me) 😂
It was such a small ipo still operator was in no mood to give any support..... Even now he just have to hussle 30-40 lots and it would be reach some respectable point
Fone4 ke jale jay jalaram bhi sambhal sambhal ke apply karte hai😅😅🤣🤣
12.10. Trueinfo| Link| Bookmark|
August 30, 2022 4:34:07 PM
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Careful rahne mein hi fayda hai.
12.11. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
August 30, 2022 6:48:12 PM
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fone4 was loss making company and didn't even listed well so atleast i exited that in preopen only without any loss... https://www.chittorgarh.com/ipo/ipo_discussions.asp?a=1245&c=510344&ap=1
This one i don't think will go like fone4 after listing.
12.12. GJ 😀| Link| Bookmark|
September 1, 2022 4:03:21 AM
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@lokes,
Yes, I remember you exited on the listing date itself. Lucky you man. And as per my nature of holding long (same in LIC), did hold more and then exited with approx 50% loss in Fone4.
All this holding nature is because of what happened with me (and you too) in Kotyark. Allotted at 51, exited at 55, not it is at 780.😐😣😥 Approx 15-16 times in less than 1 year and I exited with 8000 profit 😢.
12.13. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
September 1, 2022 12:46:06 PM
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@GJ: yes we discussed a lot about this on kotyark page, and thought to buy it later once it was moving up but then restricted ourselves. That discussion of ours is alone in chittorgarh i think, with 24 replies and between only 2 people :) https://www.chittorgarh.com/ipo/ipo_discussions.asp?a=1171&c=466438&ap=1
Anyways we shouldn't related any exceptional performance of any ipo to any other, each case is different. And don't think you have lots 15-16 times, even if you were holding that, then you might have sold that at any level after that, around 80 around 200 or around 300 etc etc. Most people got EKI also sold at multiple levels, we don't know which one be like this, so holding on to longer times in bigger hope may have both kind of outcomes. There are many examples with me of such things on both side outcomes.
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August 21, 2022 11:34:20 AM
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Fone4, safa type shop.. not an sme for me. Its some shop/ distributor. No scalable business , nothing good to attract to.
I don't have knowledge to analyse the IPOs. But looking at first sight it seems that it is good issued. The rest will be viewed by experts and I will agree to their analysis.
Jay Jalaram Technology is not famous or known at all in Ahmedabad, so thik twice before investing. I am from Ahmedabad
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August 20, 2022 9:21:04 PM
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It reminds me of few stocks related to Harshad Mehta. You might find name plate somewhere if you search deeply. 😁😁
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August 19, 2022 11:10:58 PM
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While hearing Bhatia Com , I am reminded the listing of Bhatia colour which was also Gujarat base company and listed at deep discount of 50% few months back. LM track record is not so good. BeeLine means BadLine. Recent upcoming IPOs are good to avoid.
When I read revolt in the description, I get horrors of Micromax and it's founder. It's just another retail business depending on OEMs for their survival. Not even 1% profit after a good year. Remember OEMs don't care who sells their products, Amazon and Flipkart account for huge share in electronics market. Then there's croma, reliance, Vijay sales,etc. Also many newbies in the market. U can choose to take a dip for listing gains if there's any, after that it's a staircase graph downwards.
in 2018 similar comany Bhatia Communication listed in sme.
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August 19, 2022 6:14:19 PM
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Flipkart/ Amazon kind online shopping sites are most vulnerable thread for this kind of brick and mortar shops whose business model is now outdated atleast for consumer electronics/ mobile laptops/ even big ticket home appliances.. Physical store format is Difficult to sustain going forward..