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60. ROHIT |   Link |  Bookmark | January 11, 2010 3:45:27 PM
SMALL COMPANY OVERSUBSCRIBE ABOVE 16 TIME
59. IMRAN |   Link |  Bookmark | January 11, 2010 3:11:41 PM
Hi friends Infinite ka Subcription kitna huwa ??? any budy know about it ? pls send it if u know
58. hsakaa |   Link |  Bookmark | January 11, 2010 3:01:26 PM
INFINITE GREY PREMIUM 45 and application 2150
57. SUBHASH GUPTA |   Link |  Bookmark | January 11, 2010 12:58:36 PM
ANY BODY HAS RECIEVED INTEREST OF SVPCL OR EVERYBODY HAS FORGOTTEN
56. Tejas Parekh |   Link |  Bookmark | January 11, 2010 10:12:05 AM
buy G N F C 113.00
BUY MTNL 84.00
55. GOLMAAL |   Link |  Bookmark | January 11, 2010 8:54:01 AM
Could it be second Think Soft
Business model is good
Again IT B..OO..M
Lead Manager is Good
Public POrtion are less (40 lacs Shares only)

--All above factors make it intersting.
54. devadoss |   Link |  Bookmark | January 11, 2010 8:21:18 AM
capital market has given 45 percent
53. mary |   Link |  Bookmark | January 11, 2010 5:07:24 AM
hi ravi bangalore!

where is your comment?

thx
rgds
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52. Saharanpuri |   Link |  Bookmark | January 10, 2010 11:58:29 PM
Costly Software -EVEN REPUTED N VENERABLE BUSINESS STANDARD IS ADVISING AGAINST APPLYING THIS IPO.GO THRU THE ENCLOSED REPORT
51. Saharanpuri |   Link |  Bookmark | January 10, 2010 11:56:46 PM
Costly software
Ram Prasad Sahu / Mumbai January 11, 2010, 23:14 IST
While Infinite Computer Solutions has a strong base of clients, improving margins and good growth prospects, the IPO pricing appears a bit stiff.



      
      
Mid-tier IT services company, Infinite Computer Solutions is seeking to raise Rs 190 crore from an IPO to partly fund its acquisition and expansion plans. The issue will also help Whiterock Investments, a part of Singapore-based Temasek which currently holds just under 10 per cent, to exit from the company. Of the Rs 190 crore, about Rs 95 crore will be available for the expenditure programme of the company while the rest will go to investors such as Whiterock and the promoters.

The promoter’s stake will come down from 72 per cent to 58 per cent on part sale of their equity holding and on an expanded base. The issue constitutes 26 per cent of expanded capital of the company.

Business model
Infinite has three lines of business or service offerings—application management or IT services, infrastructure management and product and IP-leveraged solutions. The company which counts IBM, Fujitsu, GE and Verizon, America’s largest wireless carrier, as its clients is focussed on generating business from large companies operating in verticals of telecom, media, healthcare and utilities. While Infinite has had to make do with smaller margins initially due to its Fortune 500 company focus, it has gained in terms of the size of contracts, experience in handling large projects and steady revenues.

However, analysts say that the company is taking a big risk on its thin roster of clients (the top 5 contribute 84 per cent of revenues, with Verizon alone contributing nearly 40 per cent) and can cause problems if vendors are switched or work is downsized. The company however believes that the scale, complexity and familiarity with the critical processes ensure the “stickability” of the vendor. The company also faces geography risk with 90 per cent of its business flowing from the US.

While the long-term outlook for software services is strong and recent uptick in hiring is a positive, the recovery in the US and other developed markets continues to be shaky. Though a predominant share of the future business will continue to come from the US, the company signed a multi-million dollar deal with a European company in 2008 and is looking to diversify its geographic risk further.

Acquisitions, expansion strategy
In addition to expanding its existing businesses, Infinite is looking at acquiring companies or intellectual property-based products from customers which can be developed further. About Rs 38 crore of the IPO proceeds are earmarked to fund its acquisitions. The company is keen to acquire IP-products and move to a revenue share model, which fetch good margins. Currently, only 5 per cent of its revenues come from this route. The company had acquired US-based company Comnet in 2006 to expand its offerings and tap the entire telecom value-chain rather than limiting itself to just telecom service providers such as Verizon. Infinite is likely to maintain its focus on the telecom space, which fetches it over half of its revenues, by offering IT and telecom infrastructure management solutions. It has four development centres across the country and plans to expand its existing campus at Bangalore and set up a new facility at Gurgaon at a cost of about Rs 26 crore. Further, the company plans to retire a part of its debt of Rs 24 crore through the issue proceeds which would be to the tune of Rs 8.5 crore.


IMPROVED SHOW
      FY07      FY08      FY09      FY10E*      FY11E
Net sales       349.0      341.0      495.0      636.0      759.0
Ebdita      16.2      26.3      64.4      115.0      147.0
Ebidta margin (%)      4.6      7.7      13.0      18.1      19.4
Net profit       10.0      17.4      45.0      74.0      110.0
P/E (x) @ 165       -       -      14.0      9.8      6.6
@ 155       -       -      13.1      9.2      6.2
* annualised E: Estimates
Improving numbers
While the company’s sales, operating profit and net profit have grown at a rapid clip since 2005-06, much of the growth has come in recent times. Sales jumped 45 per cent year-on-year in 2008-09 to Rs 496 crore while operating profit margins went up 540 basis points to 13.2 per cent.

The company says that the jump in operating profit margins (which have since improved to 18 per cent in the first half of 2009-10) has been on counts of change in service delivery, segment and revenue model mix. At the segment level, the company has been reducing its share of application development and maintenance business from 80 per cent in 2005-06 to 61 per cent in 2008-09 and increasing its share of higher margin business namely, IP-leveraged solutions and remote management services.

Further, the contribution from the lower margin time and material or labour hour model has decreased from 81 per cent to 50 per cent while fixed price contracts, which ensure steady revenues and are a better bet in these times, increased from 19 per cent to 43 per cent during the same period. In terms of service delivery, the share of offshore business which was at 4 per cent in 2005-06 has increased to a quarter of revenues and has helped margins.

Valuations
Based on the annualised first half numbers, the company’s revenues will increase by about 28 per cent year-on-year to Rs 636 crore in 2009-10 and net profit by 65 per cent to about Rs 74 crore. At an EPS of Rs 16.9 on expanded post-issue equity, the stock is available at 9.17-9.7 times its price band of Rs 155-Rs 165. While there are no other similar-sized players with revenues predominantly from the telecom software space (larger companies such as Mahindra Satyam are in a different league), when compared to mid-tier companies the asking price seems to be a touch stiff. Infotech Enterprises (2009-10 estimated sales at Rs 945 crore and OPM of 22 per cent) for example despite higher sales and profit margins is available at similar valuations (10.7 times estimated FY10 EPS of 27.1). Also, the high client and geographic concentration substantially increase the risks to its business. Investors with a longer-term perspective may apply at the lower price-band.
50. Debojyoti |   Link |  Bookmark | January 10, 2010 10:46:26 PM
I thik it's give handsome returns.
49. suresh |   Link |  Bookmark | January 10, 2010 9:29:24 PM
42 prakash ipo


pl give yr specific comments whether avoid
or apply. i always rely upon you.
thanks for comments
48. chirkoooot chingaaari |   Link |  Bookmark | January 10, 2010 8:58:31 PM
Are bhaiya, JSW main miss kiya, DB main miss kiya, Godrej main miss kiya, ab is issue main miss nahin karoonga. kam se kam 50% return lagega. sub kuch bech kar is ipo main lag jaawe aur jindagi ka mazza pawe.

Disclaimer:- Meri 50% percent recommendation kabhi kabhi sahi nikalti hai. Agar pichali baar apne meri recommendation par loss khaya tha to is baar profit kootane ka sunhara awasar hai.

NOTE:- Meri recommedation - pehle istemaal kare phir viswas kare.

47. raja |   Link |  Bookmark | January 10, 2010 8:06:11 PM
new issue bazar mein sheep and goat is running,soch sumaz kar apply karna
46. dadamuni |   Link |  Bookmark | January 10, 2010 7:54:42 PM
gmp 40.00 Apply only for listing gain. Issue will oversubscribe between 12 to 16 time, hence chances of allotment is very limited so aviod.
45. Saharanpuri |   Link |  Bookmark | January 10, 2010 6:29:19 PM
If SP tulsian recommends one thing opposite happens.Remember Reliance Power,NHPC,Adani Power,Empee distilleries,Globus distilleries so many exmaples In Oil India he was hugely negative.These guys are unreliable
44. goel |   Link |  Bookmark | January 10, 2010 5:12:45 PM
tulsian the trepxe says ,it is an excellent issue, will list at 195/-. so be guided accordingly. best wishes
43. Saharanpuri |   Link |  Bookmark | January 10, 2010 2:56:16 PM
Correction Nu tek india another ipo lead managed by SPA merchant bankers the infamous maerchant bankers who r again lead mangers for the Infinite computer IPO is ruling at 42 rs against the IPO price of 192.FOUND OUT FROM CHITTORGARH SITE ITSELF.

INVESTORS BEWARE OF THIS IPO.
42. Saharanpuri |   Link |  Bookmark | January 10, 2010 1:58:30 PM
Remember this SPA merchant banker was the lead manager in Nutek India IPO which even now is at 50% discount to ipo price of 192.
BL has given an AVOID rating & Crisil again only a very poor 2 /5 rating.merchant banker is an unknown SPA merchant .Better buy from market cos like Zylog system & Sonata software available at pe of 6-7.


41. mittal |   Link |  Bookmark | January 10, 2010 11:44:46 AM
This type of ipo's give handsome returns on listing and keep gaining & gaining like thinksoft. so apply. india infoline is the lead manager. so don't worry about listing.