@sang Can you please help what is this sub/subject to understand for any stock....cc: @lokes
39.2. MAMU| Link| Bookmark|
June 19, 2023 1:38:35 PM
IPO Guru (1700+ Posts, 1100+ Likes)
@Vijaya Kumar Bathini Sub 2 word used for IPO allotment, if you sold any application at SUB 2 & if you will get allotment in that perticular application. You will get the money from whatever rate you have sold and rest difference you have to give/get post listing from the sub 2 rate you have sold.
Assume you have sold cell point at 10000/- sub 2 and you alloted in that application. Now if listing will be at 20 rs premium then profit per lot is 16000. Now you have to give 6000/- rs to the person whom you sold application and keep 10000/- with you.
@MAMU what if listing happen in discount who bear the loss?
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June 20, 2023 10:55:11 AM
IPO Guru (1700+ Posts, 1100+ Likes)
The one whom you sold. if Listing will be at par then you will get 10000 from that person whom tou sold application. If listing wil be 10rs less then he will give you 10000 + (8000 difference of discount listing 800 share lot *10 rs discount listing) = 18000
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June 19, 2023 9:15:35 AM
IPO Guru (1700+ Posts, 1100+ Likes)
Cell Ponit - Business of accessories
Tough competition market And specially they rented 73 stores out of 75. Cost cutting, sallary on higher side. I know margin ia enough but it too high and tough competition in this segment as other brand and china sell everything at cheaper rate in all accessories. Even of they try to expand in other state they will face another company to compete with. With earning from one state, they asking money from all over india seems not digestible. Essen & Greenchef is far better than this one.
@PLAZA, Sir you are a seasoned investor yourself who can guide u but yes top three should be the priority only. After Kore digital fiasco Cell point does not infuse confidence.
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June 18, 2023 9:22:43 PM
IPO Guru (1800+ Posts, 1100+ Likes)
@kapil mehra exactly after kore incident everyone should cautious though I hv sold allotted in preoening as per my policy . I m strict about my own rules irrespective of what other suggests but I honour to take privileges for taking valuable suggestions from this forum and used for decisions making . Thanks for your comments ..
@PLAZA SIR SUNDAY KI DIN TO AARAM CHHUTTI LELO APNA KASHMIR VACATION ENJOY KRO
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June 18, 2023 9:58:13 PM
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@jaijaigarvi Actually हमारे यहां काफी जोर से बरसात हो रही है औऱ बिलकुल 80% कश्मीर जैसा मौसम है. रुक रुक कर पूरे दिन यही हाल है . कहीं जा भी नहीं सकते है तो सोचा अपने को अपडेट ही करते हैं . 👍
Can some1 guide isme others ka matlab kya hai ? If others get subscrbd 10 times and i apply 11 lot does that mean i will get 1 confirm lot ? Retail i knw if over subsrbd then will be lottery. Thanks
28.1. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
June 17, 2023 1:54:24 PM
IPO Guru (4300+ Posts, 5100+ Likes)
Others means anything other than retail, you can consider it as HNI/NII .... Yes if you are crossing others subscription in your application lot size, then you will surely be allotted 1 lot....
27.1. ipo share| Link| Bookmark|
June 16, 2023 11:33:00 PM
IPO Guru (1500+ Posts, 700+ Likes)
@Arjun Rajkot Sir, thanks for sharing your clear opinion. IPO size is definitely large, financials are not very encouraging. Most importantly, recent listing of Kore Mobiles in which both of these LM as well as MM were involved, has been disappointing.
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June 17, 2023 12:05:19 PM
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thanks sir
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June 17, 2023 12:06:02 PM
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@Eva Jones Then you patiently wait for lower circuit to open and hope that after there are some buyers.. otherwise lower circuit continues..
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June 17, 2023 8:18:28 AM
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@Eva Jones, literally watch your money burn in from of your eyes. Apply in all IPOs and you are bound to get this experience eventually. Everyone including I had this experience at any point of time.
I have a very strong feeling that Bhatia, Reetech, Swastik will find a new partner soon amongst one of these companies about to list. Your guesses who is next in line waiting to board the disaster listing bus??
22. svh| Link| Bookmark|
June 15, 2023 8:08:40 PM
IPO Guru (2400+ Posts, 3600+ Likes)
Watch Avinash Gorakshakar of profitmart's recommendation on Cell Point IPO to Rahul Sharma on Ashish Verma's show on CNBC AWAAZ at 12:40 PM today.
OR
Google it and watch the 1st link of YT. Copy paste link is not allowed so not posting.
Aisa kya hai is ipo mai Jo ye log aa kr recommend kr rhe hai..samaj sabko aata hai piche game kya hai..
22.2. svh| Link| Bookmark|
June 17, 2023 1:59:58 PM
IPO Guru (2400+ Posts, 3600+ Likes)
Yes , Rahul Sharma seems to be dummy investor. All are acting for marketing. Market maker dumped in Kore digital on listing day. Not reliable.
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22.3. PLAZA| Link| Bookmark|
June 18, 2023 6:47:35 PM
IPO Guru (1800+ Posts, 1100+ Likes)
@svh क्या हमे invest करना है इस आईपीओ में
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June 18, 2023 8:25:03 PM
IPO Guru (2400+ Posts, 3600+ Likes)
@PLAZA , I will keep funds reserve for Jupiter & Veefin so not applying here.
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22.5. PLAZA| Link| Bookmark|
June 18, 2023 8:49:20 PM
IPO Guru (1800+ Posts, 1100+ Likes)
Means if fund is not restrictions then one can take chance after taking subscription figure at the last minute as gmp is not reliable now a days ...
22.6. svh| Link| Bookmark|
June 18, 2023 9:08:00 PM
IPO Guru (2400+ Posts, 3600+ Likes)
Here QIBs were kept away. If HNI numbers cross 10x at 2 PM on last day then you can take some risk.
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June 15, 2023 2:37:03 PM
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Company is in to retail sales of mobiles, accessories, LED panels etc Promoters are hands on in managing business with presence primarily in Andhra Pradesh Of the issue, Rs 16.8 cr will be used for loan repayment. Loan Interest Rate is 8.5% to11.5%. Taking rate of 8.5%, this repayment will cause interest saving of Rs 1.43 cr. From 2020 till Dec-22, company’s short term borrowing have increased by Rs 30 cr while payables have reduced by Rs 4 cr indicating that company is rely on short term borrowing to finance its working capital. It may also be that company is opting for higher purchase discount using short term borrowing and thereby boosting its profitability. Company’s inventory has more than doubled from 2020 whereas annualized revenue has grown only 10%. Indicating this it faces strong headwinds in growing topline. Sales commission paid is exact Rs 5.00 cr for the last 3 years, which is surprising. Discounts allowed will be close to Rs 10 cr annualized for 22-23 which is 33% more than 19-20. Sales growth for the same period is 10% at best. PBT to CFO conversion is average with last year being an exception due to reduction in inventory. Other competitors like Safa System and Fone4 have material cost as 98% to 99 % of sales. Jay Jalaram has material cost as 89% of sales whereas CellPoint has material cost at 81% of sales. How it is achieved is a question. Company is keeping Rs 10.68 cr out of the issue proceeds for general corporate purposes For an SME, this is a big amount. On an annualized sales of Rs 300 cr with 75 stores, per day per store average sales works out to be Rs 110,000/- approx. Fone4 communication with around 30 stores in Kerala and turnover of Rs 100 cr has per day per store average sales of Rs 92,000/-
21.1. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
June 15, 2023 11:25:57 PM
IPO Guru (4300+ Posts, 5100+ Likes)
Appreciate your efforts for putting up these details here.....it should help people to understand about company and decide well in average IPO's..... Keep doing great work....
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June 17, 2023 2:07:04 PM
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You are doing great work . Keep it for Value investors .