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30. Arjun Rajkot |   Link |  Bookmark | November 25, 2020 5:22:35 PM
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Grey Premium 15 Buyer...
30.1. Pratik pawala |   Link |  Bookmark | November 25, 2020 6:05:05 PM
Dear arjun bhai any tantative dates for burger King ipo
29. Devenblt |   Link |  Bookmark | November 25, 2020 5:20:14 PM
Berger king IPO

First day first show

Rs 13 buyer.
28. MahadevKikripa |   Link |  Bookmark | November 25, 2020 11:42:17 AM
Where can we track subscription data of OFS of ingersoll rand?
28.2. MahadevKikripa |   Link |  Bookmark | November 25, 2020 12:20:40 PM
Thanks for your reply. Is there any chance of allotment and what is your view on listing gain.
28.3. sonal patel |   Link |  Bookmark | November 25, 2020 4:16:44 PM
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Maximum 3 to 4 % listing gain possible.
27. Arjun Rajkot |   Link |  Bookmark | November 24, 2020 10:22:44 PM
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Burger King USA

Warren Buffett Holds 11.6% stake in Burger King USA
27.1. XCapitalMarkets |   Link |  Bookmark | November 25, 2020 12:06:06 PM
@Arjun ji,

I believe he has exited that stake around August 2020.
26. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | November 24, 2020 8:04:07 AM
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Also please note:

Westlife Development is owned by Jatia family

Jubilant Foodworks is owned by Bhartia family

Both identifiable Indian promoter families ... hence their commitment to the business is perpetual

Whereas,
Burger King is owned by Everstone

Everstone is a PE fund ... Hence their final goal is to sell and exit the business
26.1. XCapitalMarkets |   Link |  Bookmark | November 25, 2020 11:50:09 AM
@Eagleye ma'am,

Everstone is only be a partial owner. The other shareholder in the Promoter entity is an entity representing Restaurant Brands International, the international parent of the Burger King franchise.

So while Everstone may exit to return money to its investors, BK International will stay invested in this business at least till 2039 (as per the master brand licensing agreement)

Note: All info from Offer Documents.
25. XCapitalMarkets |   Link |  Bookmark | November 25, 2020 11:42:47 AM
Points about BK Promoters (straight from Offer Documents):

1. Promoter entity is a JV controlled by Everstone (PE INVESTOR) and Restaurant Brands International (PARENT ENTITY of INTERNATIONAL BRAND BURGER KING)
2. Restaurant Brands International has huge global footprint, with 18,000+ restaurants worldwide
3. Defined roadmap to grow BK restaurants as per brand licensing agreement with Promoter - supposed to open 700 restaurants by 2026 end, currently operates around 260.
4. Exclusive rights granted by BK parent to open and operate restaurants in India

Please read Offer Documents carefully. Ignore the noise about promoter selling out etc. PE may exit, but the international parent is there to back up till 2039 as per brand licensing agreement.
24. GargN |   Link |  Bookmark | November 25, 2020 7:39:57 AM
Please advise at what price the ofs for retail portion should be applied today. Thanks
24.1. Raghavendra Kommineni |   Link |  Bookmark | November 25, 2020 9:18:34 AM
1. The cut-off price determined on the first day of INGERRAND OFS (24-Nov-2020) on the basis of bids received in general category is Rs 606.25
2. The demand and cumulative quantity in the general category on second day of OFS indicates the carried forward bids of general category. These bids shall be considered for allotment if the issue size reserved for retail category is undersubscribed
3. As per SEBI OFS Guidelines, Retail bids below the cut-off price shall not be eligible for allocation

Source : https://www1.nseindia.com/live_market/content/live_watch/offer_sale/ofs_sale.htm
23. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | November 25, 2020 6:40:53 AM
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Burger King India IPO – Schedule *(Tentative)*

26th Nov – Announcement of Price Band
01st Dec – Anchor Investors Allotment
02nd Dec – Offer Opens
04th Dec – Offer Closes
09th Dec – Finalisation of Basis of Allotment
10th Dec – Unblocking of ASBA Accounts
11th Dec – Credit of Equity Shares to Depository Accounts
14th Dec – Commencement of Trading
22. Arjun Rajkot |   Link |  Bookmark | November 24, 2020 8:08:28 PM
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RHP to be submited tomorrow.

Issue Date 8th
Price is 60
21. Paymzia |   Link |  Bookmark | November 24, 2020 7:10:39 PM
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Tentative Upcoming ipo's in December

Suryodaya small finance bank
Esaf small finance bank
Burger king
Railltel
Kalyan jewellers
Antony waste management
Nazara technologies
20. Ankur Goel |   Link |  Bookmark | November 24, 2020 5:57:02 PM
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December is full of IPOs

https://www.timesnownews.com/business-economy/markets/article/more-than-half-a-dozen-companies-line-up-to-launch-ipos-in-december-amid-bull-rally/686002
19. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | November 24, 2020 8:05:28 AM
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Can someone please help me to compare valuations of:

“Burger King” vis-a-vis “Westlife Development”

Coz, In my opinion, Burger King is not comparable with Jubilant Foodworks
19.1. NforNandkishor |   Link |  Bookmark | November 24, 2020 12:17:37 PM
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@EE Mam
I see Burger King growth potential much better than Westlife Dev. Although BK is a loss making but it's assets and revenue is showing strong growth

Year--------> FY 2016-17-----FY 2017-18------ FY 2018-19
Revenue-> 234 Cr--------------389 Cr---------------644 Cr
Assets-> 698 Cr-------------- 730 Cr----------------920 Cr
Loss -> 72 Cr---------------81 Cr----------------------39 Cr
EPS -> -4.87 ========= -3.10============== -1.44

For FY 2018-19,
Income of WestLife =1418 Cr
PAT= 40
EPS =2.58

After this IPO, around 450 Cr amount will be received by the BK company from fresh issue and company will able to proceed with it's expansion plans.
BK is a new company and it started business in 2014 whereas Westlife is a decade old company.

Latest Financial results of BK is unavailable. Please let us know if you have last year financial results.
19.2. NforNandkishor |   Link |  Bookmark | November 24, 2020 12:25:28 PM
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Please read PAT as 40 Cr instead of 40.
18. deep d |   Link |  Bookmark | November 24, 2020 10:15:04 AM
Anyone can please confirm call on UTI AMC ? I should hold or sell at current price.
I am having 3 lots at avg price of 515
Thanks in advance.
17. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | November 21, 2020 7:06:29 AM
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Jubilant Foods = Domino’s Pizza

Is NOT a restaurant ... They are home delivery only

Therefore their business was booming during COVID

And that is reflected in it share price


On the other hand,
Burger King is a restaurant ... they don’t have a home delivery system

*All their outlets were closed during COVID*

Big difference

Please don’t see the price movement of Jubilant Foods ...to assess a parallel for Burger King


The more appropriate comparison would be ...

Mac Donald’s vs Burger King
17.3. Analyst. Ipo |   Link |  Bookmark | November 23, 2020 2:39:47 PM
How you read is upto individual? They have good tie up with swiggy and Zomato for home delivery..through this all employee cost and burden can be eliminated..you have less liability and asset light model.If you believe in reliance retail story then retail story intact for burger king as well.
17.4. Koustav Mazumdar |   Link |  Bookmark | November 23, 2020 7:47:11 PM
I didnt expect such an ill informed comment from eagle eye. I have ordered from BK over 8-10 times in since June. all big QSRs have good tie up with Zomato / Swiggy and other delivery platforms.

As far as Domino's Pizza is concerned they generate 25-30% of their revenue from take away / store sales. 70-75% is from delivery.
16. NforNandkishor |   Link |  Bookmark | November 22, 2020 10:23:12 PM
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https://www.chittorgarh.com/ipo/jubilant_foodworks_ipo/218/

I find the above Jubilant food ipo page in Chittorgarh. Issue price was Rs 145 per share in Jan-2010. Even employees did not subscribed this ipo at that time.
16.1. HML |   Link |  Bookmark | November 23, 2020 11:16:49 AM
:)
Things to get noticed :

* S. P Tulsian Sirji as usual advised to avoid good IPO and Aswini Gujral was bullish in long term also.Forum members didn't miss the opportunity to post about s.p tulsian.

* 30x subscribed for 10 % listing gain.One thing I am not understanding is that 20% upper circuit is not applicable in this IPO.OPEN @ 160 & made HIGH @ 240. HOW ? ?

15. sonal patel |   Link |  Bookmark | November 22, 2020 3:32:25 PM
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Irfc ipo details
Promoters of IRFC Ltd – The President of India, acting through The Ministry Of Railways, Government Of India

IRFC IPO details
Subscription Dates - December 2020
Price BandTo be updated 
Fresh issue1,188,046,000 shares
Offer For Sale594,023,000 shares
Total IPO size - 900 to 1000 cr
Minimum bid (lot size)To be updated
Face Value INR10 per share
Retail Allocation35%
Listing OnNSE, BSE
14. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | November 20, 2020 5:37:51 PM
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Burger King India IPO – Issue Information *(Tentative)*

Issue Opens on: 08 December 2020
Issue Closes on: 10 December 2020
Issue Type: Book Built Issue IPO
Issue Size: 13,50,00,000 Shares
Face Value: Rs.10/- per Share
Issue Price: Rs.58 – Rs.60 per Share *(Tentative)*
Discount: NIL
Market Lot: 250 Shares
Listing At: NSE, BSE

Equity Shares outstanding prior to the Issue = 29,09,41,785 Shares
Fresh Issue of Shares 9,03,20,000 @60/- = Rs.541.92Crs
Offer for Sale of 6,00,00,000 Shares @60/- = Rs.360.00Crs
Less: Pre-IPO Placement of (1,53,20,000) Shares @60/- = Rs.(91.92)Crs
Equity Shares outstanding after the Issue = 13,50,00,000 Shares

Category-wise Break up:
Anchor – 6,07,50,000 Shares = 364.50Crs
QIB – 4,05,00,000 Shares = 243.00Crs
NII – 2,02,50,000 Shares = 121.50Crs
RII – 1,35,00,000 Shares = 81.00Crs (Lot size: 250 = 54,000 Forms)
Total Issue – 13,50,00,000 Shares = 810.00Crs.

Subscription required for 1X
RII = 54,000 Forms
NII = 121.50 Crs

14.5. KrishnaTwentyFour |   Link |  Bookmark | November 22, 2020 7:59:32 AM
Well sir its not really like that..as per market today where it is they are demanding higher price than may2020 valuation...
As retail quota only 10% I will apply if QIB and HNI participation is good on last day...

Look at IndiaMART ipo...not much profit making company...ipo price and today's share price...
14.6. NforNandkishor |   Link |  Bookmark | November 22, 2020 11:23:19 AM
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@Krishna Sir,
I did not think from that angle. Let's first see the Anchor allotment list. Anchor placement size is 45% and QIB quota is 30% of the issue size. Both of them constitute 75% of the issue size.

If we see good anchor names (similar to Gland Pharma), we can decide accordingly.
13. NforNandkishor |   Link |  Bookmark | November 21, 2020 2:48:15 PM
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Anybody have burger King financial results upto March 2020?
12. ganesh jaiswal |   Link |  Bookmark | November 20, 2020 7:34:41 PM
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Consecutive loss making company, therefore retail quota restricted to 10%. Remember Rossiary Bio, the retail quota was 10%, because out of three previous years, company declared loss in one year. Here this company is total loss making with not a single year of profit.

भाव भगवान छे।
12.1. NforNandkishor |   Link |  Bookmark | November 20, 2020 9:09:47 PM
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Ganesh sir
Rossari was not a loss making company and it's retail size was 35%. I think you are mixing it with happiest mind which was a loss making only for one year and so retail investors Quota was 10%
12.2. ganesh jaiswal |   Link |  Bookmark | November 20, 2020 9:23:34 PM
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@NforNandKishor
Thanks for timely correction, it was happiest Mind. Thanks
11. NforNandkishor |   Link |  Bookmark | November 20, 2020 9:01:45 PM
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Extremely loss making company. I am thinking of skipping this IPO because I am not finding any reason why should I apply for this IPO.

Also it's peers are dominos and McDonald's who have much better market share than burger King. No doubt Berger King is the best US fast food chain but in India it's business is not up to the mark.

Let's wait and watch. I am keeping my fingers crossed