Bedmutha Industries Ltd IPO Message Board (Page 26)

SJ

tera ye line sun ke kaisa lag raha hai

NAHI TO SRINI....

TEREKO AAAKE MAREEEGAAAA YAAAHHHHHH MAREEEEEGGGGGIIIIIII

srini aake marega ..... ha ha ha ha abe aake maregi bol....

abe hathini bhi kahi aake maarta hai oo to hamesa aake marti hai .. ha ha

sorrry srini

who is this" ADVOCATE " on " NEGOTIABLE INSTRUMENT ACT, 1981

GOOD .......

mai bhi thoda haath saaf ker lu es per..

1) The cheque issued unpaid by the bank must have been issued in discharge of a debt or other liability wholly or in part. Where a cheque is issued not for the purposes of discharge of any debt or other liability, the maker of the cheque is not liable for prosecution under section 138 of the Act. A cheque given as a gift or for any other reasons and not for the satisfaction of any debt or other liability, partly or wholly, even if it is returned unpaid will not meet the penal consequences.

2)Return of the cheque unpaid for reason of insufficiency of funds , if other reasons like sign mismatch etc then 138 does not apply.

GEM 38 POST

HA HA HA HA HA H AHA.....

HATHI HATHINI SRI SRINI...LOLLLLLL.......


AEEEYYYY ZYADAAA MAZAAAK MAT UDA....

NAHI TO SRINI....

TEREKO AAAKE MAREEEGAAAA YAAAHHHHHH MAREEEEEGGGGGIIIIIII

I DONGT KNOW

LOLLLLL........

HA HA AHA AH AHAAAAAA

HI FRNDS, CAN SOME1 TELL ME WAT IS KOSTAK

GOOD .....!!

GEM BHAI WELL DONE

SHOULD NOT RISK

BUT I CAN TAKE RISK OF 2-3 LOTS IN RAMKY

COZ I AM THINKING 20%-30% GAIN

AND I ONLY APPLIED FOR 30 LOTS OF VATECH


ISME THODI KHUJLI HO GAYI

ISILIYE THODA DAAL DIYA

BASSS....ZYADA RISK NAHI LETA HUUNN

KABHI KABHI

JAISE MAINE MOSER BAER FUTURE KE 5 LOTS LIYE THE AUGUST SE

SAA%^&*$%^&LAAAA


AAB JAKE MOSER BAER FURURE MEIN PROFIT HUAAA.....

AUGUST SEPTEMBER

TUKKKKKKKK MERE DAD MOSER BAER BECH DO BECH DO BOL RAHE THE

AAB KUCH NAHI BOLTEE......

LOLLLLLLL........


Once again i appluad your good discipline GEM

SJ

ABE NAAM TO LADIES KA LAG RAHA HAI... SRINI..... MALE KE LIYE TO SRI HONA CHAHIYE NA........

JAISE HATHI - HATHINI WAISE SRINI - SRI...... HA AH HA HA

DONT MIND ANYTHING SRINI, JUST A JOKE ON UR NAME NOT EVEN ON U

CORRECTIONS


NARIWAL = "NARIAL"


as i believe that rational return in an ipo in one applcn is 1600 - 3200, i dont want more...... =

as i believe that rational return in an ipo in one "LAC " applcn is 1600 - 3200, i dont want more......

gem

I WOULD LIKE TO BE FEMALE

SO THAT I CAN IMPRESS HER

LOLLLL....HA HA H HA AH A

but he IS MALE.......

AND NOT FEMALE

100% SURE

HAINA SRINI....


LOLLLLLLLL


srini dont mind we are just joking

regards

IS SRINI A MALE OR FEMALE ANS IN 5 MINUTES PLZ...

IS SRINI A MALE OR FEMALE ANS IN 5 MINUTES PLZ...

IS SRINI A MALE OR FEMALE ANS IN 5 MINUTES PLZ...

IS SRINI A MALE OR FEMALE ANS IN 5 MINUTES PLZ...

sj

i avided for my principals.........

i never invested ( except 3 times oil india, cox, fortis) in any ipo where chances of allotment is more than 50%........

i have always choosen capital protection over irrational return.....

as i believe that rational return in an ipo in one applcn is 1600 - 3200, i dont want more......

u take those all ipo from me where ramkying( 1 time) happens. i avoided HT MEDIA due to this reason as well....

if i require 10% return in an ipo with 100% allotment, i go to secondary market not primary markey......

i apply in an ipo with the caveat that i will get 30% max allotment.....

i never used " STOP LOSS " in life so i cant use it on listing day, so if i have 20 lac rupees and i invested in ramky then if anything goes wrong i will keep holding the "NARIWAL" in my hand for whole life , because i dont book losses.....

to thoda samhal ke chalta hu main, baap ka paisa hai na yaar.....jawab dena padta hai.....

Srini

tuu bohot alsi ho gaya hai

jake chavanprashh kha aur thoda mehnat kar

maine already apna laaaaamba chauda view diya

chal tu to khata nahi chvanprash...Kyunki tereko tasty nahi lagega

lolllllllllllll........HA HA HA HA


CHAL TERE LIYE MAIN WAPAS MEHNAT KARTA HUN.....

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@ 83 Ananymous

see this analysis i have already given on electrosteel

read it carefully...your doubt will be cleared...!!

Regards

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47. Sj Sep 19, 2010 12:42:39 PM IST Report Spam
Bhola

Electrosteels Ltd IPO of fully owned subsidiary of kolkata based prestigous and ggod quality management Electosteel Castings looks interesting and is like betting on something with good management which is still yet to start its business. It is the best time although highly risky to bet on some project in its commisioning stage.

But when does retail inbvestors like you and me get such a good oppurtunity...to invest in a company at its installation phase....? Only PE investors and Financial Institutions get that oppurtunity.

We should thank the management that they are giving us such an oppurtunity and that too close to face value

Can you remember when you got any IPO at face value..?

Now agreed that management needs funds as they have 70% pledged shares in this subsidary that is 35% of the group electrosteel parent group. But IPO will reduce there debt and give them funds tom install thsi project.

I also agree that just that it is giving shares at face value it is good IPO. In fact many people here might be suspicious that why are they giving IPO at face value..? There is something fishy..?

But what is wrong...in that..? If the project is already started and just in inital stages hence they are giving face value.....Had it been completed and started operations do you think management would have been foolish enough to give you shares at face value

Management is saying that they themselves with high debt are taking gamble in this project and hence giving the same oppurtunity to you Bhola...

I know there quality since i am from Kolkata and i know the management quality is good

Go and see in moneycontrol there last several year performance

There book value is 48 share price at 50. They were sitting at heavy debt and losses in slowdown couple of years ago.. Every other commodity stock from Tatas to Jindals suffered in their steel business at that time. So electrosteel is no exception. But now they willl perform better and your money can double in the parent company Electrosteel Casting in next 1 year.

You know Bhola ....Yesterday i was watching Investor Summmit of ET NOW feauturing Madhu Kela Nilesh Shah Ramesh Damani Nirmal Jain of IIFL.

In that Madhu Kela gave a very interesting example of a big commodity bet he took in 2003.

Yes you will be suprised that the company name was Jindal Steel and Power

He said:

" Back in 2003 when I would have mentioned someone that Jindal name and I am investing in Jindal Steel And Power they would have seen me with irritaing looks and said that wether i was Son in law of Jindals that I was touting Jindal like chor perceived group at that time. But the fact was that I bought a company that had gone thru debt restructing and had good production capability good funds for Capex and had mines in physical assets to show. TODAY IT IS MORE THATN 20 TIMES return for me."

You should watch that programmme to where veterans like ramesh damnai who bet on Jet airways at 150 nirmal jain who betted on Hul in 2000.
It will be repated in night after 8 pm or in day 2-5 pm probably on ET now . Also wath Ramdeo Agarwal on ET Now on basics of investing and how he picked multibaggers....TELLING TO STUDENTS in Narsee munjee institute of Management.

The point i am making is Good quality Management taking a bet in a good business in growing economy and consumption growth in india should be taken a bet on...

Same is the case of ELectro Steel IPO.

1)The group is setting up a 2.2 MTPA Integrated Steel and Ductile Iron Spun Pipes project in Jharkhand. The total cost of the project is Rs 7384.00cr

2) The company has raised debt amounting to Rs 5447cr from various banks and the balance is to be funded through equity, including the share premium. The promoter group has contributed Rs 700cr towards equity.

3)The project is being set-up in technical-cum-financial collaboration with Stemcor Mesa DMCC, UAE - a group company of Stemcor, UK. So ggod investors backing the project and more funds can be bought in if required

4)The company will have a debt-equity ratio of 2.84:1.

5)The promoter group company, ECL, is in the business of manufacturing Cast Iron pipes for over four decades and Ductile Iron Spun Pipes since the last 15 years. Hence experienced management

6)Experienced Promoters. Integrated operations including captive power plants. Locational Advantages.

7)ECL has already, in place, a well-developed and established marketing network and clientele in India and abroad for DI pipes, which is proposed to be used by EIL for marketing its own production of DI pipes.

8)EIL proposes to install Captive Power Plant aggregating 150 mw, which shall steadily supply about 120 mw of power enabling to meet about 84% of the total power requirement. The balance requirement will be met from Damodar Valley Corporation, for which the necessary application has been made.


However following are current risks:

1)The original cost of the project was at Rs 5000cr and the project should have gone on stream, in Sept 2009. There is delay and cost over run.

2)The operation requires significant raw materials and non-availability of the same at competitive prices, may adversely affect results.

3)The project is still under implementation stage, there many loose ends to be tied up. The time and cost over-run will take a heavy toll on the company. There are certain uncertainties, including availability of raw materials at competitive rates. Due to high fixed cost, products pricing will be challenging.


So keeping advantages and risks in mind

This is a pure long term invetsment of 3-5 years if you want to apply in THis IPO

Market crash will not affect it coz they are still developing the project although it can be delayed in slowdown or developed economies crash or slowdown

Hence if you are looking for listing gains do not apply. Although it can be easliy manipulated as price is just 10 rupees. But why take that risk with your money when you have other great secondary markwt oppurtunities that can give you 30-40% returns in next 6 months and even ggod quality IPOS that are in plenty that can give good returns..?

So my advice it accumulate this stock in systematic inestment form. Allocate 10 percent of your total current or planned portfolio of stocks.

By in phases. At rs 10 and in stock market crash or correcting at price below 10. It can fetch you exceptional returns if held in that form for next 3-5 years. Trust me.

I have adviced same to my clients.

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Rose

This project is a JV (joint venture)

Currently, ECL holds 38.7% of ESL’s equity. Further, several

other strategic investors such as

Stemcor (22.2%),

IFCI (5.5%),

GPC Mauritius (4.8%),

PGS Invest (4.2%) and IL&FS (4.2%) hold majority of the balance equity share in the company.

so where does promoter stake come in question....?

stemcor holds 23% repeat 23%

by copy pasting stuff..you become knowledgble....

this is in production stage....

it will start in 2011-12

do you know what will happen with steel prices then..no body knows...

steel is cyclical

that doesnt mean people dont buy cyclical stocks.....

or fund managhers donty buy cyclic stocks....

i am also holding jai balaji steeel

it has 16000 crore project coming in west bengall....

from no where...it became 8th all india ranked in steel production in 4 years..

know it is aiming at trippling capacity....and will be 3rd largest steel producer in india in 3-4 years...

if you dont trust me'

why dont you go to moneycontrol

see angel broking researh report

read it

and find out...what is potential of electrosteel ipo

i have also said to apply part in ipo and part after ipo if market corrects..

coz it is cyclical business.....

but obviously you did not notice that.....

why are you fixated on 33% prmoter....?

you know how much stake the promoter of Bharti has...?...

it is also less......is bharti a bad company....?

you have no logic....or practical knowledge....

on top of that you say i misguide people....!!

then what are you analysing....?

Just by copy pasting stufff....

does not make you Rose of the movie Titanic.....!!

So first go and research....

and then comment.....

Just by fixating on one point you dont become judge of good or bad investment...ok.....!!

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SO SRINI

I HOPE YOU GOT MY STANCE ON ELECTROSTEEL


I WILL NOT SEE SUBSCRIPTION IN THIS

I KNOW THE PROMOTERS PERSONALLY

AS MY UNCLE TOOK ME TO JHARKHAND 8 MONTHS BACK

I HAVE SEEN THE PROJECT MYSELF


MY UNLCE WHO IS INTO STEEL BUSINESS APPLIED FOR 40 LOTS

NOW YOU CAN IMAGINE HIS CONFIDENCE FROM A GUY WHO IS INTO THE BUSINESS

AND KNOWS MORE ABOUT ELECTROSTEEL FROM OUTSIDE THAN ELECTROSTEEL KNOWS ITSELF OR I KNOW ELECTROSTEEL

Regards

P.S. Wise decision you have taken for going for Long term

Sj,

My question is regards to Electrosteel.

Dear Sj,
Since QIB is subscribed more than 5 times, what is your say in this, can we apply for 1-2 lots for long term basis?. I know that Gem is against this but just want to take if it is long term bet.

GEM

HA HA HA HA....

TOO LATE NOW

SINCE YOU AVOIDED

RETAIL GUYS ALSO AVOIDED AND IT IS JUST 0.99

THANX FOR AVOIDING IT

PLZ DO NOT SAY APPLY FOR ELECTROSTEEL ALSO

SO THAT I WANT TO APPLY IN THAT FOR MY CLIENTS

PLZ ZYADA AVOID BOLEGA TUU TABHI TO MERE CLIENTS KO ZYADA ALLOTMENT HOGA NAAA....

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAA

LOLLLLLL........

IPO FIRE

AVOID ELECTROOOOOO.........
APPLY VATECHHHHHHH............

APPLY IN ELECTRO ONLY IF U HAVE MONEY MORE THAN IPO SIZE OF VATECH..... HA HA HA

WHY TOO MUCH DIVERSIFICATION..........?????

SUNA NAHI HAI KYA ..... " EK SADHE SUB SADHE , SUB SADHE SUB JAYE"...

KYU TENSION LETE HO YAAR , PAISA HI KITNA HAI HUM LOGO KE PASS ...50 LAC , EK KISI ACHHE MEIN LAGAO NA AND VATECH IS BEST IN REMAINING IPO IN ALL RESPECT

SJ

YES

SJ

NOW ITS NOT TOO EARLY TO SAY......... HA HA


Gem ipo finder Sep 23, 2010 2:22:08 PM IST
Ramky Infrastructure Limited
SJ

I THINK RETAIL WILL NOT EXCEED 2 TIMES IN RAMKY.........

aRYANrAJ BHAIYA

PLZ DONT TAKE MY NAME IN UR POSTS FOR BAD REASONS.......

I M HERE TO HELP INNOCENT / UNEXPERIENCED / CURIOUS INVESTORS WITH MY LITTLE MORE KNOWLEDGE THAN THEM, NOT TO CRITICS AND EXPERT LIKE U........

I ADVICE TO THEM WHO DONT KNOW.......

1) HOW TO BID IN IPO.....
2) HOW ASBA WORKS.....
3) HOW MANY TIMES OVERSUBCRPN....
4) LISTING TARGETS...
5) FUND ALLOCATION
6) CO ANALYSIS A BIT, SINCE I M A "CA" , U MUST BE AWARE THEY ARE THE MOST TRAINED PROFESSIONALS IN OUR COUNTRY TO ANALYSE THE BALANCE SHEET, P&L ........
6) ETC...

SO BHAIYA MERE KO APNA DOST BANA LO AUR, MUJHE KUCH GYAN DO....

Dear @ 22 IPO FIRE

I agree in total with GEM BHAI

I AM JUST GOING FOR VA TECH 30 LOTS...MYSELF

NOT APPLIED IN ANYTHING ELSE TILL NOW...(APART FROM 3 LOTS OF RAMKY TODAY)

TOO MUCH DIVERSIFICATION LEADS TO TOO LESS PROFITS

DIVERSIFICATION IS ONLY A THERORY THAT STUPID FUND MANAGERS USE...TO PROVIDE BELOW AVERAGE RETURNS

ITS BETTER TO PUT MONEY

IN THREE FOUR IPOS

INSTEAD OF DOING KHUJLI...FOR ALL

IF TOO MUCH KHUJLI THEN BETEXXX LAGAO....

LOLLLLLL.....


GEM BHAI

DID YOU AVOID RAMKY...?

JUST ASKING...

COZ I KNOW YOU ALREADY PUT MANY SUBSCRIPTION SO MAY HAVE AVOIDED RAMKY

IPO FIRE

AVOID ELECTROOOOOO.........
APPLY VATECHHHHHHH............

APPLY IN VATECH ONLY IF U HAVE MONEY MORE THAN IPO SIZE OF VATECH.....

WHY TOO MUCH DIVERSIFICATION..........?????

SUNA NAHI HAI KYA ..... " EK SADHE SUB SADHE , SUB SADHE SUB JAYE"...

KYU TENSION LETE HO YAAR , PAISA HI KITNA HAI HUM LOGO KE PASS ...50 LAC , EK KISI ACHHE MEIN LAGAO NA AND VATECH IS BEST IN REMAINING IPO IN ALL RESPECT.