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65. RAJESH SHARMA |   Link |  Bookmark | June 21, 2017 8:06:43 PM
gmp is 125.
65.2. ykk |   Link |  Bookmark | June 21, 2017 8:14:13 PM
The Gmp is 106 to 108. Check the figures through other brokers.
65.3. ykk |   Link |  Bookmark | June 21, 2017 8:14:14 PM
The Gmp is 106 to 108. Check the figures through other brokers.
64. rotundabull |   Link |  Bookmark | June 21, 2017 4:54:45 PM
Is there any discount in employee quota? Anybody having information about it.
64.1. CA M&co.Jodhpur |   Link |  Bookmark | June 21, 2017 5:46:21 PM
No discount
63. ShareView |   Link |  Bookmark | June 21, 2017 12:10:33 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (2400+ Posts, 3600+ Likes)
Looking at the valuation and p/e , any GMP above 40 - 45 is not justified at all . Don''t believe that current GMP of 100 + will sustain till IPO closes .

This stock can fetch handsome returns up to 50 % if hold for 1 year.
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63.1. Rajkumar Bhuj |   Link |  Bookmark | June 21, 2017 3:24:18 PM
IPO Mentor IPO Mentor (600+ Posts, 400+ Likes)
I too feel the same. GMP may crack to 60-65 levels once ipo is over.
62. Vinayagrawal |   Link |  Bookmark | June 21, 2017 3:02:17 PM
I want to 3 app
And what is gmp
61. MrFin |   Link |  Bookmark | June 21, 2017 1:40:10 PM
Seems a bit expensive than their peers in market. But, if the next to IPO''s make good listing, then this will be a hit as well....
60. VALUE INVESTOR |   Link |  Bookmark | June 21, 2017 9:56:47 AM (900+ Posts, 600+ Likes)
Analysis of upcoming IPO of AU Small Finance Bank has been loaded on www.sptulsian.com.



You can access it in the Free Zone in the IPO Analysis section. The section can be accessed at:

https://www.sptulsian.com/free-zone/ipo-analysis

IPO Analysis: AU Small Finance Bank

Verdict: Asking for gold!

Shriram Transport Finance, India’s largest asset financing NBFC specialising in used CV segment, with Rs. 79,000 crore loan book, is ruling at PBV multiple of 1.8x and PE of 16x, while M&M Finance, providing vehicle loans to rural India through a nationwide network of 1,200 branches and Rs. 42,000 core loan book is trading at PBV and PE multiples of 2.5x and 18x. 1,000 branches strong Shriram City Union, three-fourth of whose Rs. 23,000 crore AUM comprises of SME and 2wheeler loans, is ruling at PBV of 2.7x while another vehicle financer Cholamandalam Investment is trading at PBV of 3.4x, despite much larger loan portfolio of Rs. 29,000 crore.

Capital First, specialising in SME loans with AUMs of Rs. 20,000 crore, promoted by Warburg Pincus (same investor in AU) having current ownership of 36%, has long term credit rating of AAA (versus AU’s A+, which is four notches lower), higher growth rates (reported NII and PAT growth of 65% and 44% respectively in FY17 as against AU’s 41% and 32%), enjoys better asset quality (net NPA of 0.30% vis-à-vis AU’s 1.05%) with listed track record of nearly one decade, is available much cheaper, at PBV multiple of 2.6x and PE of 21x.

Bajaj Finance is the only NBFC ruling at a higher PBV of 6.5x which is justified by its 44% YoY PAT growth (32% for AU in FY17) and AUM growth of 36% on huge base of Rs. 44,000 crore (31-3-16) to Rs. 60,000 crore (31-3-17), versus AU’s AUM growth of 31% on much lower base of Rs. 8,000 crore (31-3-16). Moreover, Bajaj Fin’s asset quality is significantly better, with net NPAs of only 0.4% in relation to AU’s 1.05%. Well, both size and asset quality matter and AU has a lot of catching up before it can join the premium big league of the likes of Bajaj Finance!



While AU is an asset finance NBFC to start SFB operations, listed peers who have started SFB are Equitas and Ujjivan, being micro finance institutions, and ruling at nearly half of AU’s asking valuation. Equitas, operating its SFB since Sept 2016, is ruling at PBV of 2.2x, while Ujjivan, which launched SFB operations in Feb 2017, is trading at PBV of only 1.9x, with both having comparable AUMs of Rs. 6,000-7,000 crore. What also comes to light from the experience of these 2 companies is as SFB business expands, cost of operations rise, straining P&L for a few quarters, especially when serving unbanked areas (regulatory requirement of minimum 25% of total braches to be located there). Hence, AU will also see pressure on its P&L in FY18.

From the above, one can thus conclude that in relation to (practically all) NBFCs operating in vehicles and SME lending space, AU’s IPO is grossly overpriced.

While it will be futile to compare AU with banking heavy-weights, such as Indusind, Kotak, Yes or even HDFC Bank, in existence for so many years while AU is a new entrant yet to prove its mettle as a bank, different set of RBI regulations govern the two - take for example, priority sector lending at 40% versus 75% for small finance banks. The above four banks are all currently ruling at PBV multiples of less than 4 times, FY18 book. Despite all the investor fancy and spectacular run-up in share price, even RBL Bank, with Rs. 49,000 crore balance sheet, is ruling at PBV of 3.8x on FY18E BVPS, which fades away AU’s pricey valuation.

In short, by all parameters, AU Small Finance Bank IPO is expensively priced.

Benjamin Graham, revered in the investment community as the father of value investing, who has also mentored the most-admired-investor-of-our-times Warren Buffett, has, in his book The Intelligent Investor, said ‘A great company is not a great investment if you pay too much for the stock’. The above applies perfectly in case of AU Small Finance Bank. One wonders what prompted the company and merchant bankers to adopt such steep pricing!

While the company is good, posting strong growth, albeit with regional presence, pricing of the issue is very aggressive, making it an avoid.
60.1. Nidhike |   Link |  Bookmark | June 21, 2017 12:23:15 PM (300+ Posts, 500+ Likes)
A full time operator quoting Benjamin n buffet in his analysis......seems nobody paid him for this issue!!!!!! :)
59. King😄🎚️🎷 |   Link |  Bookmark | June 21, 2017 12:07:05 PM
Apply Au financiers blindly. This Nbfc has shown good growth in last three financial years with net interest margin of about 8% in 2016. You can exit post ipo or keep it for 3 years also.
58. ShareView |   Link |  Bookmark | June 21, 2017 10:05:13 AM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (2400+ Posts, 3600+ Likes)
S.P Tulsian :

Verdict : Asking for gold
Avoid due to aggressive pricing

https://www.sptulsian.com/free-zone/ipo-analysis/AU-Small-Finance-Bank

My personal opinion : Apply for the long term with the target of 500 - 550 .

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58.1. UnderRighter |   Link |  Bookmark | June 21, 2017 10:40:36 AM
Yes, just saw tht review. Was surprised. It looks like a good ipo to me.
57. Hemant Kachhwaha |   Link |  Bookmark | June 21, 2017 9:58:15 AM
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56. Ranga |   Link |  Bookmark | June 21, 2017 8:35:08 AM
At present it looks costly. But, it will be like another RBL or Equitas.. All the best.
55. UPINVEST |   Link |  Bookmark | June 21, 2017 2:03:37 AM
Septa sir

Pls advice us..

Regards
54. RT |   Link |  Bookmark | June 20, 2017 6:41:05 PM
201. Eagleye Jun 9, 2017 2:58:09 PM IST Reply
S Chand and Company Ltd IPO

Today is start of the upward trajectory in SChand ... those who have not sold as yet ... hold tight for the next 2 months ... see fireworks by Ganesh Chaturthi ... 25th August ...
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Eagleye madam any reason behind it ?
54.1. hfg |   Link |  Bookmark | June 20, 2017 8:36:54 PM
today low 500
tomorrow close less than 500

ramjan for sultan before ganesh chaturthi


more LOL than kappu sharma
this must be the reason why TRP going down

schand,tejas,eris.
which next ?
GTPL ?
LOL

54.2. RT |   Link |  Bookmark | June 20, 2017 9:02:07 PM
May be AU itself in the same line.
53. Rajkumar Bhuj |   Link |  Bookmark | June 20, 2017 3:13:49 PM
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@Sagar.... GMP isn''t a fixed deposit. It will keep on changing.
53.2. Sagar Hirani |   Link |  Bookmark | June 20, 2017 3:30:14 PM
remembered my words....AU = Eris current 100 rs GMP on last day you will see 20/25 Rs GMP.....bet on my words.
53.3. Rajkumar Bhuj |   Link |  Bookmark | June 20, 2017 7:43:59 PM
IPO Mentor IPO Mentor (600+ Posts, 400+ Likes)
One shouldn''t rely on GMP but one can definitely get some idea. One can be sure that Tejas will have dull opening while CDSL will have good. GMP shows that.
52. Rajkumar Bhuj |   Link |  Bookmark | June 20, 2017 2:35:31 PM
IPO Mentor IPO Mentor (600+ Posts, 400+ Likes)
@Eagleye, Septa and other experts

What could be the listing price of this stock?
51. SK BHADRA |   Link |  Bookmark | June 20, 2017 1:43:36 PM (200+ Posts)
IPO HOLD KARNE KA H YA NHI
50. KNIpoInvestor |   Link |  Bookmark | June 20, 2017 12:41:37 PM
Might have changed now after the price band change ?
49. IPO BABAJI |   Link |  Bookmark | June 20, 2017 12:17:29 PM
application
Eris 250
GTPL 300
CDSL 575-625
AU 925-1025
48. Sunilbaba |   Link |  Bookmark | June 20, 2017 9:53:10 AM
I want to sell 3 application...contact me if any1 interested...93210...56666
47. rsk |   Link |  Bookmark | June 20, 2017 8:33:51 AM
IPO Mentor IPO Mentor (600+ Posts, 300+ Likes)
AU Small Finance Bank More Richly-Valued Than Some Leading Private Banks

https://www.bloombergquint.com/business/2017/06/19/au-small-finance-bank-ipo-price-band-asset-led-bank-offer-for-sale
46. ShareView |   Link |  Bookmark | June 19, 2017 9:59:35 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (2400+ Posts, 3600+ Likes)
What is this ?
Promotors turning greedy.
Now issue price raised from 337 to 358 .
21 rs. up. Not fair
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