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February 6, 2023 10:04:02 AM
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Uttar Pradesh discom scraps Adani's Rs 5,400-crore smart meter bid UP discoms - including Madhyanchal, Dakshinanchal, Purvanchal and Paschimanchal - representing different regions, had floated tenders for the supply of more than 25 million smart meters
lol.... you are right.... but they love destroying investor's wealth
734.4. Gingal| Link| Bookmark|
February 6, 2023 10:06:20 AM
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Issue was subscribed mostly by Adani money, they couln't manage share price as per their arrangement. So there was a big loss in IPO to them at personal level then they have withdrawn IPO to save their money....No Honesty anywhere..
733. Nothing New| Link| Bookmark|
February 6, 2023 8:49:57 AM
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It's Aswath Damodar's (Harvard Professor) turn now to fan bad news. I don't know why a Harvard professor would want to suddenly start giving price targets on Indian companies. That's none of his business. Is it?
733.1. jajo| Link| Bookmark|
February 6, 2023 9:36:26 AM
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Well-known valuations guru Aswant Damodaran finds the fair value of Adani Enterprises at ₹947 per share, that is approximately 38% downside from current market price. Earlier he had valued PayTM share price also much lower than the IPO price
One main line IPO in line and coming soon : Sai Silk Kalamandir. Date : 11.02. 23 to 13.02.23 Face value : Rs. 10. Price : Rs. 70 to Rs.75 a piece. Lot size : 200 shares Issue size : 89 crs. Listing : BSE, NSE. Avery small size IPO.
Last time Kalamandir ipo was in 2013 (feb) for 89 crores vs now 1200 crores (after 10 years).
Previously they have come up sith saving net scheme (if price go belong issue price in 6 months, they will buy from the retailers at original issue price).
At this point of time , the talking point everywhere is how the Adani embroglio will have effect on LIC and SBI. First come to the point of SBI. Sbi has declared that they have an exposure of Rs21000 (Total loan in the country being about Rs80000).So exposure of SBI is 25% of the total. Sbi has total loan book of some 42 lac crore.So the loan given to adani amounts to about 0.5% of the total loan book.Moreover, there is colateral security. So barring the equity security rest is protected. Last Friday Sbi declared Rs15000 cr profit for the last quarter. Even if we think that the entire amount of 15000 has to be lost, then its effect is not more than earning 0.5 % less interest on the entire loan book for a period of six months or paying 0.25% extra interest to the depositors for a period of one year.So nothing serious. It remains mentioned that Psu banks are now in a very good position (returned to profit , stopping book value erosion) .In the last nine years , in Modi era more than 12 lac crore npa has either been resolved or provided for without taking resort to earlier tacks like restructuring etc.
LIC has alrady given clarification that it has exposure in the Adani group share to the extent of 31000 cr and they are still in profit.Lic's m.cap in adani group share rose as high as 80000 cr now reduced to about 47000 cr. Lic has been an early investor in Adani group stocks including Acc and Ambuja.Lic has about 3.6 % of Adani group stock.Number of stocks may be in the range 24-25 cr.So average price may be in the range of 1300 which reveals that it has accumulation at the higher price range also.Its application for ael (pp) also shows that its thirst for Adani has not been quenched .I am really surprised to see this happenings. Lic has total investment book of about 43 lac crore out of which equity's total market cap is in the range of 10.5 lac crore (investment figure I don't know) So this 31000 amounts to 0.75% of its total investment and 2- 3% of its investment in equity. At this point of time , it is quite clear that ultimately Lic will lose some money in this count as the matter may by and by turn in Chhota Ambani's way . Now ,if we take that the entire amount is lost , the effect on the shareholders will be erosion of Rs 50 per share of notional book value . It's no excuse that it has huge gain in some others.
Now come to the policy holders.policyholder's liability has been legally protected in the form of ' Life fund'.Lic has protected some 39 lac cr in this count out of its about 45 lac cr financial asset. The investment of Lic is governed by the insurance act and Irdai regulation. As per insurance Act minimum 75% is to be invested in the Govt securities. only 15 % is available for free investment. Rest in approved investment. Thus the life fund is protected. And the amount 39 lac crore , I have mentioned is much more than the actual amount required . Now in the worst scenario, if Lic fails to pay the policyholder's liability, unlike the psu banks ,the Govt will have to pay the full amount (Sum assured & bonus) as LIC IS THE ONLY PSU WHICH ENJOYS SOVEREIGN GUARANTEE. So policy holders interest is fully protected.AND THIS IS HOW LIC DIFFERS FROM THE PRIVATE LIFE INSURANCE COMPANIES.
Now come to the political front. Opponents have raised hue and cry in the parliament and also in the social arena.Tomorrow they will show protest at the gate of all LIC and SBI offices.They are be fooling people with the narative that both will wind up. Thereby they are unnecessarily causing agony in the minds of crores. one such case was mentioned by @ Nativa the other day. Media is also coming with questions as usual. Opponents are such all time. I Can recollect that in the year 2008 when market was in the vicinity of 2500 (nifty) Lic bought shares worth 25000. Then the opponents (one of them in power now) raised that Lic has put money in this doldrum situation at the instigation of Chidambaram sir (FM) Now it is history what return has been brought forth. In low market Lic always buy but this time whatever may be , I am a little surprised to see lic buying Adani at high level also.
Hoping good for all. Disc: There may be typo mistake
724. DuckkyDuck| Link| Bookmark|
February 4, 2023 11:34:41 PM
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Any new IPO in sight?
724.1. Romy HNI| Link| Bookmark|
February 5, 2023 8:01:24 AM
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I don't think.... The Merchant bankers has spoiled the IPO market by high valuation...
724.2. Imhilli| Link| Bookmark|
February 5, 2023 9:36:37 AM
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True.... main board IPO at a depression.
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February 4, 2023 6:25:11 PM
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Lots of things have been discussed in favor and against Adanis. I feel and believe : "In life, some failures are essential. Repeated success makes a person arrogant, whereas occasional failures are essential to becoming mature".
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February 4, 2023 11:41:59 AM
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Quant Mutual Fund has exited it's position in Adani group stock.
721.1. arvindarvind| Link| Bookmark|
February 4, 2023 12:05:05 PM
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Bhai bahut paise dale hain Adani me. Adani nahi dubega.
you mean exited in FPO. coz they ain't holding any shares
720. IPO guro| Link| Bookmark|
February 4, 2023 10:39:07 AM
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Adani Tum Sangharsh karo Ham Tumhare Sath Hain 🙋
719. Romy HNI| Link| Bookmark|
February 3, 2023 8:02:29 AM
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From a friend in the USA
“After watching Adani's speech on his decision to withdraw FPO, I feel sad...The most annoying part is, people are celebrating his setback. Some of them are not even Adani shareholders. Many of us look up to the US for everything, but we fail to realize how they support their businesses. Many people I met during my college days in US, preferred to drive only American cars or bought American products to show their patriotism and help American businesses. People buy from small shops to support them.
And, here, when an outsider is attacking, we are celebrating the crisis and hoping that Adani and his business fails...instead of considering to invest in his company stocks to help his businesses?
We need to celebrate the success of our own business leaders who have built something and contributed to the nation's growth. This is what we do with the Armed Forces and farmers. A majority of large Indian business houses contributed significantly to India's economic growth, as they created jobs for millions of young people and paid huge income taxes.
Unless, we support, share our businesses, we cannot hope to sustain and survive in long run.
Remember - It took one "East India Company" led to two centuries of foreign rule ... So, celebrate Patanjali, Adani, Ambani, Birla, Jindal, Dabur, etc.”
719.1. Nothing New| Link| Bookmark|
February 3, 2023 8:09:32 AM
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Correct! As suspected earlier, the foreign media is now questioning the credibility of India as an investment destination. Remember China just ended their Zero Covid policy and is reopening and all set to grab the major chunk of the foreign investment.
Adani was just a tool they used to make the Indian markets collapse and India's image maligned.
Rules should be the same for everyone. India too should launch a detailed probe into the operations of every American business operating out of India and take punitive action if anomalies are discovered.
@Romy, People make such speech when they go to America. Because that is land of law. Anyway tell him to come back to New India and work for own country and not serve whites, as some Indians worked for East India Company. (Don't call me racist, it's what American call themselves).
Large business ko India me bhi support milta hai Par Desh Bhakti name pe fraud kitna sahi hai Inke pahle bhi bahut sare businessman ne fraud karke foreign chalen gaye hai
Deshbhakti sirf normal logo ke liye hai kya?
Bade business ka to kuch loss hone Wala nahi hai wo yaha ke innocent investors ka faisa hajam karke foreign me settle hojayege.
Yeh deshprem, nationality yeh sab hamare liye hai baki unki to pahle bhi life sahi thi fraud ke bad bhi kuch fark nahi padega sirf nationality change ho jayegi
Aur ham yaha hamara payara bharat karke emotional hojayege
719.4. PeterEngland| Link| Bookmark|
February 3, 2023 9:27:35 AM
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@Nativa, do you really think Romy darling's friend from USA wrote what is mentioned here? The content totally smells like came from PR team's XXX.
Romy must be sitting in the dark corner of IT cell copy/pasting messages provided by firefighting PR team and getting paid per posts :D
We ain't here to flow with emotions.... these speeches are good for political forums not in real economics....
If someone has been manipulating the markets over the past 3 years... and you assume they are patriotic and shud go scot free then i salute your faith in them.
But we are normal people with controlled emotions..
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February 3, 2023 10:58:58 AM
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@ Romy Does any Govt agencies worked indepently irrespective of govt pressure. In USA Fed chairman works independently and never worked in any ones pressure. See Powell 's working and he never worked against public 's interest. Sometimes back the FBI inspected President's house. Does our agencies work this type against the President or any Political leaders ( except leaders of Opposition) It's important the contents of the report and if report was baseless then the Group may have excercised the legal option.
Adani very fearful about legal action as ed,ec,sebi,rbi unable to help him in USA case , also adani fearing about possible sahara sree like situation might arrive and may be send to tihaad not ruled out.... Remember in USA biden house raided every fortnight by Fbi ...
Are Adani ne kya kiya aur kya nahi vo to pehele dekho , uske achivement bhi to dekhlo jo hamare desh ke liye bahot achhe he.
Usne share price boost ki aur foreign se khud me invest kiya vo baat abhi prove hui? To ek jo khud Fraud he uski baat me aa gaye?
Hindeburg jo khud ek "stock market manipulation" fraud he usko to bhagvan man liya he tum sab ne aur lad rahe ho "geniune" baat karne valo se!!!
Indian economy jaye ✊ me , bus adani , ambani , birla ko tod do , Yahi nare lage ke sote hoge tum log!!!
Romy ji ne jo likha vo ekdam 100% sahi he , desh ki industry ko hame suport karna chaiye vahi sachha patriotism he!
Adani ne FMCG, power , solar usme jo contribution diya he vo nahi dekhoge tum log.
World largest solar plant banaya , FMCG me quality products with cheapest price provide ki , power supply buisness , gas supply business vo sab bhi Fraud he kya?
ITC , HUL , Pepsi, Nestle ye sab top class fraudster he desh ke unko desh se kab nikaloge? Indian se kama ke foreign le jate he.
Desh ki company desh ka paisa desh me rehne de aur tax bhare , investment kare vahi chahiye desh ko , tum jese nahi!
Foreign entity se paisa idhar udhar kiya aur khud ke share me investment kiya to illigal parctise he koi fraudster vala kam nahi he
LIC ne 1600 me enterprises liye the tab Valuation sahi tha , ab 3400 me jo le rahe aur 3400 me FPO me apply kar rahe vo bhi murkh he, Valuation dekhe bina "invest" nahi karna chaiye ,ye aur sab jagah chilla chiall ke bata rahe , andhe he kya fir bhi!
And Stock manipulate kiya he vo prove nahi hua he abhi tak , aur kiya bhi he to jo inflated me invest karega vo doobega hi , uske liye vo khud responsible he. Agar nahi samjega to Adani stock nahi to koi aur stock use dooba dega , inko stock market me aana hi nahi chaiye.
Mutual fund seva ke liye nahi bethe , vo bhi stock manipulate karte he but fundamentals basis pe but usme bhi investors faste he na top pe!
Sbhi buisness and fields ki dark side hoti hi he aur Ye stock market ki dark side he jo ise nahi samjega aur isse bachega usko stock market hi chhod dena chaiye.
We do not have to support stock price of Adani but we have to support our own nation's largest conglomerate company.
Agar Adani nahi chaiye to Tum sab milke karke dikha do Adani se !
35% fall from previous closing 42% recovery from day low
finally closed +1.38% from previous closing
716.7. arunARUN| Link| Bookmark|
February 3, 2023 4:02:55 PM
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@CB For your information no money is actually collected by the company. It is sitting in escrow account from which it raises debit request to various allottees. Only then the company is entitled to take money out. It is basics. Your allegation are dangerous and without foundations
@arunArun, I am not alleging but speculating "seems" .. My comment was in view of report that known circle of promotor poured money via hni route and finally the FPO is cancelled and those with big money are attempting to save AEL from further steep fall.