See how retail investors are fooled in SME LOOK AT BULK DEAL DATA TODAY OF ACCURACY Pantomath sabrimala fund aif sold share on listing which I think was allotted in May 2018 as preipo placement
Mockery of preipo placement which is supposed to be for medium to long term
DONT SUBSCRIBE TO ANY SME IPO IN CURRENT SUSPICIOUS ATMOSPHERE
COOKED BOOKS, COOKED QIB AND NOW EVEN COOKED PRE IPO PLACEMENT
@AKMP, KOI FAIYDA NAHI, RII STILL SUBSCRIBE TO SOME RIDICULOUS PRICING ISSUES. SOME HEAVILY SUBSCRIBED ISSUES OF THE PAST ARE TRADING AT HEAVY DISCOUNTS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT RII'S ARE UP TO ???
65.2. Johny| Link| Bookmark|
June 24, 2018 10:12:18 AM
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Check the Share holding pattern in Prospectus and NSE Listing Notice. Pre-IPO shares were sold. Shares that were allocated as part of QIB application were sold. And Pantomath as market maker bought the same. There are many big shots still holding including Pantomath AIF, Vantage Equity etc.
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June 24, 2018 10:14:01 AM
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Sorry insteat of "Pre-IPO shares were sold" read it as "Pre-IPO shares were NOT sold"
Rahul rii is a liar.he managed to sell both and at top price.tel l us if loss on previous issues as well. These people are fenku. Such type of people try to show over smartness by saying I sold and that too at top price. He is new on the blog. Noone even cares what he says as he is having baseless conversation. Must be hired by LM to create positive environment and persuade people to apply in all their sme
AKMP I am surprised what greed the retailers have for other issues. Panthomath is still ok but apart from it look at the fate of other listed sme recently. Also even in such market condition lead manager are coming at such high pricing because they know only few application required and easy to find foolish retailer. Now 5 sme are opening and all are worse and high price. I expect retailer not to subscribe at all and let's join to show them 0 subscription. Think what good it will do and future lead manager will think multiple time before price any sme higher.earler sme used to price so less and left lot of room.now all sme are coming expensive as they are happy to get foolish retailer. Even if I find some might give 5 pc with risk I don't apply.
I think rating agency should also rate for LM as well to judge performance
at the moment only 3 LM appears ok and had multibaggers
1)panthomath 2)Hem 3)Guiness
hem is not good performance now but remember thay had some multibaggers in the past.
apart from above 3 i dont think other LM should be there. SEBI should cancel Navigant ,first overseas type of LM as they keepn coming up with fraud companies what say people?
Dear IPOANALYSIS I already told i entered sme stock last year only. Ususlly in last 30 years i sold all the counters at 9.15 am (In 1990 to 2005) Whatever price whether profit or loss. In Last 10 years price discovery system is applicable. In those period i sold 50% at discover price and remaining 50% at opening time (10am). The same principle followed sme stocks also. Out of 10 issues most probably 7 issues went down after listing.
now at almost issue price 85rs. those who did not sell can now get at same issue price within 15 minutes of listing still find no reason to apply in any new sme. mind yuo all other 4 sme opening soon which are not of panthomath is piece of junk from fraud LM like navigant etc so this is time to teach atleast those LM a lesson. those who donot check chittorgarh will become bakra on those issues
i agree. however i skip all sme ipo to apply now unless the period starts when high subscribed ones go up 15 to 20 % else no use to apply in primary market and wait for lottery.
i will take a call post listing. i have picked oswal seeds from secondary market as i find its the cheapest stock available in that category and fundamentals should come to play soon.
Again Pantamoth LM success in last four issues. Profit range from 10k to 5k is not a small amount for one lakh investor for 6 working days. It is 35 crore ipo even then it list at 88.
Dear IPOANALYSIS Akshar i got allotment and i sold at issue price. Softech and innovators all lists at par or small premium. Retail investor who invested in those counter have not suffered loss.
innovators was down below issue price on day 1 despite too high subscription you might have been lucky as not sure how you become so perfect and sell akshar at par as many retailrs are stuck
even today accuracy was available at 84 rs so you could have also easily bought at 84 rs today as well which is issue price.
Rajkumar one thing i am quite suprised how come you get out of issues like aksha at par with no return so quickly. no one can predict market. i am not sure how so much perfection and known price when to sell. although i dont know you but have ou thought about people who are stuck in akshar, softech, innovators. aks 90% of people alloted if they were able to sell above stocks as judgement is not possible
also mind you accuracy too was available at same issue price today now again up to 88 rs. so you can easily get sme ipo on discount or same issue price
i agree only panthomath is best amongst lot but even they do not have success of 50% so risk reward is not in favour. if yuo alloteed 1 lot in each for panthomath in last 2 months its not gain. check innnovator,akshar as well so better to stay on sidelines.
anyway i have many known people who have not got allotment in accuracy. seems they must be doing some hera pheri iin allotment too which have guarantee success. 1.4 times and not being alloted to many. same goes with affordable robotics.many did not go as LM knew price will go higher.
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June 22, 2018 9:52:38 AM
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Oswal, Priti & Accuracy all the 3 IPOs lead by Pantomath and if we calculate, Average we earn 5% from each IPO, i think its not bad in this market condition.
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June 22, 2018 9:48:48 AM
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Again Pantamoth maintaining the issue price even though issue size is 35 crore. It is good sign. Earlier Sarveshwar food we lost money huge because of poor LM it went down to 20% lower. Umang very confident in that counter but poor subscription and LM leads to huge loss.
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June 22, 2018 8:40:27 AM
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