VA Tech Wabag Ltd IPO Message Board (Page 4)

Applied a Normal application, Not ASBA....

Not refunded yet...when will I get?Anybody got Interest on Late allocation?

Ae dekho bhaiyye, yeh naye naam SH se Sj aaya, khud ki tareef kar jaata, Meky ye batao, Inhone VA tech mein kamaya, Sj ko kyun thanks kar raha hai.

Booked profit at 1749. Thanks to Setu Jain, Ravi Bangalore and others for their analysis and suggestions in this forum. Your inputs have been very helpful.

@1517

Bhaiyye, Ekdum sahi kaha tu ne, Sj Baba underground ho gaye gain, College ke time inhone bahut saare ladkiyoun ka dil toda (See Post no. 306, Under Ashoka Buildcon), Yahan teen char IPOs ne inka dil todd diya, aaj kal toh koi inke support mai bhi nahi bolta, gayab ho gaya, abh kisi naye naam se aayega, Bolta tha usko blogging ka shauq hai, lein aaj kal blogging bhi nahi karta, time time ki baat hai bhaiyye

1506. Lost in Market

DIFFICULT TO RECOVER LOSSES

Having your money earn more money for you is the name of the game in the stock market. Market teaches us that impact of compounding interest is very powerful especially when your money is in the pool longer. When we take a huge draw down (loss) in our portfolio that money is no longer available to earn money for us. After losing more than 80% of the trading capital, is it practically possible to rise from the dead and make money?

1. Determine what made you lose money.

You need to reflect on why you lost money in the first innings. In most cases, its relying on TV news, listening to the experts on the channels, listening to the broker, following SMS, Messenger from unregulated entities who promise unrealistic profit, being cajoled by a friend into a stock, a rush of adrenalin at seeing a stock rise every day for a long period or a sheer gut feel to get into invest or just getting over confident or rash?. Are these any of the reasons why one loses so much money? But what do the above do to cause such huge losses? I would put it the other way around. If you still have some money left after being affected by any of the symptoms described above, consider yourself lucky. Such symptoms normally cause terminal financial illness resulting in untimely and abrupt death of capital.

2. Do your Home-work.

Why the money was lost in the earlier investments— it just makes no senses assigning an emotional reason. The reason has to be something one can correct with the next invetstment. It’s important to see where in the investment process the tactical error crept in. It’ll prevent you from rash investments, and deter you from throwing good money after bad. Have profit and stop-loss level in mind even before you initiate trade (preferably in the ratio of 1:3).

3. To begin afresh, do some paper trading and gradually get your confidence back.

After a string of loses — or one huge blow — the confidence will evaporate. So this time around don’t start with real money. It would help to start by initiating paper trades. Don’t do the paper trades without caution just because it’s “fake money.” You need to trade and be so intense that it should seem like the real thing.

4. Get back into the investing mode. Start investing again with money you can afford to lose.

Now, the fourth and most difficult step is to begin investing again with the money you still have left with you. If the entire capital has been washed out, you’ll have to save up a starting balance again. If you still have some of the moolah left over —trust you me, you’re in a much better position! However, ensure that you trade only the money you can afford to lose. Like all investments, make no mistake, there is a significant risk involved with stock market investment, and you need to be aware of your risk appetite and ratio too (preferably 1:3). If you don't want to put stop-loss, then refer my earlier post about 'Safe Investment (Time-averaging instead of price averaging)'.

So: Here we go. Back in the thick of things again, you are now armed with your investing discipline; follow it. The confidence is back on track; don’t let it get the better of you. Stick to your investing plan. Remember, Failing to Plan is Planning to Fail.

5. Make learning, tweaking, and perfecting an ongoing process. Keep evolving your investment system

The final frontier is perhaps the simplest: Keep learning and never stagnate at what you do.

Always be in a learning mode. Always keep practicing with zeal. Always keep monitoring your results and keep making the necessary adjustments so that you get better results time and time again. It would not be out of place to expect double the capital in a very short span of time. The key words are patience, courage, spreading out risk, taking the profits off the table and an iron clad stop loss. You should know the entry and exit levels as also the risk reward ratio.

All the best and remember – INVESTMENT IS NOT A ZERO GAME, ITS ALL ABOUT ADDING ZEROES. There is money in it, you should develop technique to grab money from market just like miners dig gems out of sea. Search your money from the place (here, read stock market) from where you lost. Loosing here & searching for your money elsewhere is not a good idea.

I also got refund in icici bank a/c......apply through sharekhan

LAGATA HAI KI SJ BABA (THE RESEARCHER- THE GOOGLER) KI CANTABIL MAIN JABAR KOOOTAAIIII HO GAYI HAI TABHI WOH APNE BIL SE BAHAR NAHI NIKAL PA RAHE HAI.

AAJ VATECH KA MUNAFA BHI UNAKO AARAM NAHI DE PA RAHA KYONKI VATECH MAIN TO SHURUAAT SE END TAK GREY MARKET MAIN ACCHA BHAV THA SO 325 KI JAGAH 425 RS MIL BHI GAYE TO BADI BAAT NAHI HAI PAR CANTABILE MAIN UNAKI EK EK APPLICATION MAIN 15000 - 15000 KI MAAR PADI HAI.

WOH LOG RAMKI AND MICRO MAIN BHI BAHUT PITE HAIN. MICRO KA VP APNE SJ BABA KA CLIENT THA AUR USAKE KAHNE PAR HAMARE SJ BABA NE TIP SUNA DI KHUD BHI KOOT GAYE AUR 2-4 CHELE CHAPATE BHI UNDERGROUND HO GAYE.

SJ BABA KO MAAR PADI TO PADI KYONKI WOH DESERVING CANDIDATE THA PAR UNAKE CHELE CHAPATE BHI AAJKAL UNAKE SAAT BHOOMIGAT (UNDERGROUND) KAISE HO GAYE? KANHI WOH SAB SJ BABA KE DUMMY NAAM TO NAHI THE YAA KANHI UNAKI BHI JABAR DHUNNAAAIII HO GAYI

@ 1510 : Do you know that what are you writing. God is great and i never face any market crash and i was not in share market at 2002 time.

@ 1504 : share was going up not because of company's good data but wa going up because of grey market.

don't forget TIRUPATI INKS, INDOSOLAR LIMITED open very good and now treading with heavy loses.same with bcantabil, electrosteel, orient green, microfinance and so many others.

Great listing!
Sold the 27 allotted shares at an average price of around 1760 and bought back 18 at an average price of around 1715.

@1509. Anonymous. Thanks for your advise. You are right that luck should also favour which is not with me. I wish I had not done intraday that time or even did not sell MRF which I bought at 6000 in Jan and then sold at same price in 1 month bcoz it was not increasing and then today it is close to 9500 :(

As far the market correction is concern, I don't think market will correct any more in next 2-3 years. I am expecting that Market will be above 50000 by Mid 2013 and will easily cross 30000 by the end of 2011. So if I cannot buy now, I will never to able to buy at same price in future. Regardless of shares, all shared will be min double in 6-8 months and many may go 300-400% also. I may need to take a big loan again so that I can recover the loss in 6-8 months.

There is no such MD (Psychi) doctor in Faridabad, doc directory

1494. Chem cho

It is stopped-out for medium-term. For intra-day, I have specifically mentioned it is gambling. I honestly agree that my call went wrong. I have already made it clear that 100% sure shot call is impossible in short-term trading? Why Udayan is working for salary if there is sure-shot way in trading?

Still I believe as long as 1650 holds, it is still buy on declines. If 1650 breaks, no support till 1500. In all probability, some large-funds have sold.

How can IPO allottes book-loss. It is allotted at 1310, but stopped-out at 1680 (assuming that somebody taken my tip). Profit is reduced, but not loss-booking.

At 1:36, you have given a call to book profit at 1800. At that time, stock was rulining at 1757 & never went to 1800 after that. AT 1:10 p.m. it was trading around 1800. Have you given that call around 1:00 p.m? What is the use of giving call at 1:35? Be honest, don't cheat.

You are calling everybody as cheater. Who is cheater? Be honest. Have you not given call to apply for Cantabil? Have you not booked profit too early in Career Point? When you point one finger to others, remember that remaining four fingers are pointing towards nyou!

Kindly do not ignore Ajayshare, rather you should pity on him. He is a person who is taking psychiatric treatment since 2002 stock market crash. Though he has improved quite a bit but still wavering thoughts grip his mind and he goes out of control.

He has a debt of several brokerage houses and trying his level best to clear it. All the boarders of chittorgarh instead of showing symphathy, you people are trying to argue with this sick Ajashare??? Shame on you. All of you, please be generous and pray for this guy to get well soon.

Get well soon Ajayshare. Do not you foret to take your medicines and behavior therapy sessions on time. Drink lots of water and fiber in your diet. It will keep you cool. We are with you, always.

N. Saikia
MD Psychiatry, Faridabad

dear lost in market friend, this is my sincere advice to you, pls don't invest in stock market. here with fundamentals and technicals we also need luck which you have ran out off. trust me with me also same thing happens in secondary market when i buy the share price stats dropping and when i sell it starts increasing so have left investing in secondary and now have gained in primary as my luck favoured here. you have taken loan so are now in further trouble. what i suggest is take a break pay off your loan do some savings and when the market corerects go for A group shares. rohit

Lost in Market,
if you behave like this we all are sure you will be lost from here too!!!.
Read various post posted in past from Ravi, All are good.
You have to get money from the other guy, do not take advice from anybody to buy or sell.( Not even from Ravi)

1504 and other : please i will talk after 3:30

@1498. Srini. Thanks for your meg. I can understand but I am in so much loss and need to cover some loss by the end of next month. I am more than 60% for this month. Hardly 2-3 weeks back I out another 26k which is now 11k only. I thought that something like Aster Silicates, Prakash Steel or Career Point will double my money but VA Tech is also going down. What shud I buy for a month now? Pls suggest if u can something..

raviBangalore,

u advised both CPIL & VA Tech r dangerous for value investors.
shud i sell?
thx

1503. Ajayshare,

Then how this IPO got huge success?.

@ 1501 : company gave wrong information about peer comparison.

ompany did comparison with own consolidated profit with peer's standalone profits for good response in ipo . This is cheating with the investor.