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27. Noorul |   Link |  Bookmark | September 5, 2023 2:31:26 PM
Applied FF.. ✅
Will give good gain.👍🏼
27.9. Noorul |   Link |  Bookmark | September 13, 2023 11:25:52 AM
Give good profit of one lakh.. easy allotment comperative.
27.10. ultrasnow |   Link |  Bookmark | September 13, 2023 2:58:54 PM
@Noorul Very good call, sold at 111
26. Jsca |   Link |  Bookmark | September 5, 2023 3:56:03 PM
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Applied a token of 1 retail application
25. Safe Bet |   Link |  Bookmark | September 5, 2023 11:16:45 AM
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@lokes @Noorul 
Are you applying here?..
Worth a high risk bet for a single lot?? 🙂
25.5. MAMU |   Link |  Bookmark | September 5, 2023 3:14:43 PM
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Same here SKIP also..
& FF with FLY high 👀 VFX effect zaruri he ab toh apni life mein bhi
25.6. sahab |   Link |  Bookmark | September 5, 2023 3:31:52 PM
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Right mamu
24. Old.Fox |   Link |  Bookmark | September 5, 2023 2:48:02 PM
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Applied so as to keep hopes alive for 1 lot.

Skipped Saroja...
24.1. Old.Fox |   Link |  Bookmark | September 5, 2023 3:22:07 PM
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Its going to go the go Goa gone way for me........
23. Anil Mwt |   Link |  Bookmark | September 5, 2023 3:15:47 PM (200+ Posts)
Applied to get some lots
22. Raju Hiralal Chavda |   Link |  Bookmark | September 5, 2023 3:06:20 PM
Retail _ 3
21. ultrasnow |   Link |  Bookmark | September 5, 2023 2:56:44 PM
Applied 45 lots
20. Boring Investor |   Link |  Bookmark | September 5, 2023 2:56:20 PM (200+ Posts)
Rs. 9 buyer
19. Sanchit Jain |   Link |  Bookmark | September 5, 2023 2:35:31 PM
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Applying few lots..
18. Jainritik |   Link |  Bookmark | September 5, 2023 2:10:31 PM
If the subscription figure goes 10 times, and I apply for 10 lots then will I get conform allotment or not
18.1. MAMU |   Link |  Bookmark | September 5, 2023 2:13:57 PM
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Yes, if HNI below RII then probability will increase too
18.2. Safe Bet |   Link |  Bookmark | September 5, 2023 2:24:39 PM
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YES 99.99%
17. IPO LEADER |   Link |  Bookmark | September 5, 2023 11:28:42 AM
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Hos 5rs buyer
17.3. MAMU |   Link |  Bookmark | September 5, 2023 1:52:03 PM
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Yes perfect
Live : 6.5-8.5 again
17.4. MAMU |   Link |  Bookmark | September 5, 2023 2:15:04 PM
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8-10 🔥🔥🔥
16. Boring Investor |   Link |  Bookmark | September 5, 2023 12:48:28 PM (200+ Posts)
6/9
15. sampathvallam |   Link |  Bookmark | September 5, 2023 8:53:16 AM
Hi @lokes  Sir,

Your view(apply or not) in today closing 3 SME IPO's?
14. MAMU |   Link |  Bookmark | September 4, 2023 6:46:39 PM
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GMP : 7-9
14.4. Anuj agarwal |   Link |  Bookmark | September 4, 2023 10:05:35 PM (300+ Posts)
Again sayin apply bindas
14.5. Anuj agarwal |   Link |  Bookmark | September 5, 2023 6:55:09 PM (300+ Posts)
Jisko mela sell lar do gmp
13. DSR |   Link |  Bookmark | September 4, 2023 3:25:34 PM
Some linked research on this one:

Founder Rohit Lamba: Educational qualification missing. Is it really 27 year old company. He has mentioned that in his profile.

He also mentioned couple of other startupa.. non of these are active:
 Entered the Loyalty Programs segment in 2013 - Empower Rewards
 Established an e-commerce venture in 2015 – Magikbazaar
 Flagged off a knowledge sharing portal in 2015 - Premiafaqs

HR Head: hired only 3 months ago and have total experience of 8+ yrs.. probably done MBA HR from TISS ( a reputable institute) through correspondence.Another HR senior manager from Wellingkar Institute ( another good b School)

Plastics division - Have hired a seasoned manager forNPD who ex employee of Shaily Engineering.

Couple of product designers have their job seeker linked badges on. maybe serving notice.

As per EPFO website - Total 39 employees in Jun 2023 but only 1 employee in the Mar- Apr , My 2023 ?? on an average there were 20-25 employee in the past several years..

13.1. YBPK |   Link |  Bookmark | September 4, 2023 3:51:15 PM
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@DSR 
The PF deposited for 1 employee for the month of Mar, Apr, May most likely could be on account of Full and Final Settlement of separated employees.
FFS process of resigned employees usually takes more time
In you screenshot, see 6 rows above, PF deposited for 22 employees for Mar-23

A more worrisome observation is that the company has deposited PF of 4 months, Feb, Mar, Apr and May together in Jun-23.
Normally PF is to be deposited next month by 15th for the previous month and a delay most likely signifies cash crunch
13.2. DSR |   Link |  Bookmark | September 4, 2023 4:54:16 PM
ohh yess.. missed that thanks foi pointing @YBPK 

Overall seems good set of people they have..

This video provides a good overview of what they do -- > http://pramara.com/Video/PramaraFactory.mp4
12. kapildevsharma |   Link |  Bookmark | September 4, 2023 2:18:44 PM
big avoid ....same lm moksh yasons...

danger ipo...

save ur money...apply basilci
11. Ipolala |   Link |  Bookmark | September 3, 2023 12:12:22 AM
So many IPOs Basilic, Ratnaveer, EMS, Jupiter etc. This company is Financially good and may provide return in long run but abhi k liye upar wale me Paisa daalna jyada better h.

One more thing, There will be lots of selling pressure on the listing day of the above IPOs. I do not think that Pramara is going to survive hence, better to buy Pramara after listing.
10. BOOM BOOM BOOMER |   Link |  Bookmark | September 2, 2023 9:48:16 PM
Just created my new ID and this my first comment. (Do not troll me)

APPLY WITH FULL FORCE

Meet you on Listing✨💥

- Apply or not that's your choice, after all it's your hard earned money.
10.2. Royal Shiva 👑 |   Link |  Bookmark | September 5, 2023 5:21:26 PM
Listing kitne par hogi
10.3. BOOM BOOM BOOMER |   Link |  Bookmark | September 13, 2023 12:33:45 PM
As said, listing will surprise you guys!!
Hope who listened me, have invested in Pramara Promotions.

This is my 3rd comment here, do not troll me guys.

MY NEXT TARGET IS JIWANRAM !!!
9. Mas |   Link |  Bookmark | September 2, 2023 7:40:58 PM (200+ Posts)
Fed up with Fedex, very dangerous LM, can't say where this will go on listing. Moksh & Yason really burnt figures of many. Better to search opportunity else where.
9.1. sahab |   Link |  Bookmark | September 4, 2023 1:49:40 PM
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right LM is very dangerous
9.2. sahab |   Link |  Bookmark | September 4, 2023 2:14:53 PM
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last ipo list at mius -20 % discount
beware
8. YBPK |   Link |  Bookmark | September 2, 2023 10:17:15 AM
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LM with mixed bag track record
The cost of materials consumed (including purchase of stock in trade) by us in our operations accounted for 71.80%, 75.37%, and 79.06% of our total income for the Financial Years ended on March 31, 2023, Financial Years ended on March 31, 2022 and Financial Years ended on March 31, 2021, respectively
Top 10 suppliers are 72% of purchases while top 10 customers 73.3% of sales
EBITDA Margin (%) (4) 12.92% 12.59 9.80 for last 3 fiscal
Revenue from operations is Rs 50.06.28 cr, a growth of 1.85% over previous year, flattish.
Borrowings from Axis bank and Deutsche bank @ 8.25% to 9.5%. Long term and short term borrowings together are Rs 33 cr as on 31-mar-23.
Inventory & Receivables are Rs 42.51 cr v/s Rs 42.37 cr in previous year.
Decent cash flow in last 2 fiscals, poor cash flow in 20-21 could be attributed to pandemic.
Material civil litigation against our Company 8 cases valued at Rs 224.36 lacs, mostly cheque bouncing / non payment of dues cases
YoY legal & professional fees have doubled to Rs 72 lacs
Electricity expenses for 22-23 are at Rs 8 lacs v/s Rs 86,000 in 21-22. Factory, of 24000 sq ft in Daman, renwed leased from 15-Aug-22 at rent of Rs 5.23 lacs per month.
Travelling expenses for 22-23 is Rs 16 lacs v/s nil in previous year.
Out of receivables of Rs 16.32 cr, Rs 1.31 cr is outstanding for more than 6 months, as on 31-mar-23. It was Rs 3 cr in 20-21 and Rs 3.24 cr in 21-22
Net block of tangible assets is Rs 7.55 cr of which office premises is Rs 1.77 cr and plant and machinery is Rs 4.75 cr. Rs 3.45 plant & machinery added in 22-23
Capital work in progress of Rs 1.26 cr is constant for last 3 years with no movement, it appears. Is the project is still feasible or is a dead project?
Short term loans and advances include advances to other of Rs 2.41 cr, up from Rs 1.53 cr last year.
Non-current investment includes Rs 56 lacs as investment in partnership firm, future benefits of which are not known
As per EPFO establishment records, Pramara Promotions deposited PF of 23 employees in Jun-22 and for 39 employees in Jun-23. Details of Jul-23 payments to be made in August are not available on website. 83 employees reported as on 31-jul-23
In RHP, Objects of the Issue, company estimates, 23-24 debtors at 90 days, inventory at 149 days and creditors at 50 days. So the cash conversion cycle will be 189 days, making it working capital intensive business.
Based on working capital estimates, company is targeting revenue of Rs 70 cr in 23-24, 40% growth over 22-23.
8.4. YBPK |   Link |  Bookmark | September 4, 2023 3:57:48 PM
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@MuStrFc 
Recalculate using average of FY23 actuals and FY 24 projected receivables
8.5. MuStrFc |   Link |  Bookmark | September 4, 2023 11:21:29 PM
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@YBPK  if taking average, the calculations match up. But the company is not following the same in their estimates, that's what i tried to highlight.