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484. Denim |   Link |  Bookmark | October 27, 2022 9:04:58 PM
Anyo
483. VimalKumar Topiwala |   Link |  Bookmark | October 25, 2022 6:42:54 PM
I have applied 2 lot. Luckily 01 lot alloted. 1 sme ipo alloted...Already sold on listing day at 315 UC..... 🥰🔥 264000/- net profit. Now How much tax to be paid on profit. Is it compulsary????
483.1. UPG |   Link |  Bookmark | October 25, 2022 9:19:14 PM
Tax @15% of Profit.

Yes it is compulsory.

483.2. PKRAJ |   Link |  Bookmark | October 27, 2022 8:28:20 PM
@Topiwala
It is always better to consult who are tax experts and dealing clients for Income Tax matters. You might be having other income also. With all your financial year income and tax savings details, contact the consultant. Half knowledge is always dangerous.

Hope you will get more taxation knowledge as well.
482. Boxowi |   Link |  Bookmark | October 25, 2022 10:13:16 AM
LC... and Only 2 lots traded today till now. (Non liquidity is uniqueness of SMEs)
482.2. Boxowi |   Link |  Bookmark | October 25, 2022 12:58:34 PM
SMEs are highly manipulated n oone can set a target.
482.3. Rohan Bajaj |   Link |  Bookmark | October 27, 2022 1:31:30 PM (300+ Posts)
Not able to sell m 1lot... there are no buyers.
481. PKRAJ |   Link |  Bookmark | October 25, 2022 1:18:42 PM
Specially for the members who forget to book profits and purchased at 315, please be cautious. Keep watching. Listing at such a very high level, now it looks very risky for those who bought. Totally operators operated SME looks. Not seen posts of MRavi and other bulls of this forum, who purchased on listing day. Please take care in future and it is better not to take risk. It is not possible to fix any stop loss here in present circumstances. Only two trades. Not depressing any one. Unnecessary risk is never advisable. At present downside chances are more. Take your own decision.
Have a nice time all.
481.8. Jagan |   Link |  Bookmark | October 27, 2022 11:00:23 AM
I got an allotment but when i want to sell now i am getting the error no buyers to buy, please help me to sell at the current market price.
481.9. UPG |   Link |  Bookmark | October 27, 2022 11:12:06 AM
@Jagan There is no buyer. It's not an error.
The stock is lower circuit as there are multiple sellers but no buyers.
480. Elon Rusk |   Link |  Bookmark | October 27, 2022 10:36:08 AM
Top Contributor Top Contributor (500+ Posts, 200+ Likes)
Was away for few day. Didnt get allotment, so didnt check the listing price. Saw it today. What a great listing... 2.5l profits in a single day...
479. MUNAVIR |   Link |  Bookmark | October 23, 2022 2:57:34 AM
What is the name of phantom digital in moneycontrol app
479.1. Safe Bet |   Link |  Bookmark | October 24, 2022 2:16:41 PM
Top Contributor Top Contributor (500+ Posts, 100+ Likes)
I think moneycontrol soya huwa hai. 25th ko hi scrip add karega . 😊😊
479.2. Safe Bet |   Link |  Bookmark | October 25, 2022 3:56:29 PM
Top Contributor Top Contributor (500+ Posts, 100+ Likes)
Abhi bhi soya hai...quite unusual.. normally it is added on listing day.
478. JaiShriKrishna |   Link |  Bookmark | October 21, 2022 10:42:05 PM
I got one lot but I was busy today, so i could not track market today.
So still hold one lot.

Any suggestion for hold/sell.
478.3. Takamichi |   Link |  Bookmark | October 24, 2022 10:16:56 PM
IPO Mentor IPO Mentor (800+ Posts, 700+ Likes)
@hope only anchor have lock in....normal QIB can sell like hni and retailers.....
478.4. tejasa |   Link |  Bookmark | October 25, 2022 10:32:06 AM
Bhesiya gai pani me
477. Mk.yadav |   Link |  Bookmark | October 24, 2022 6:12:58 AM
What should I do for becoming a hni investor
477.1. Dilip Porwal |   Link |  Bookmark | October 25, 2022 9:07:32 AM
You just need to submit an application of more than Rs 2 lakhs.
476. Rajendra Kumar Gupta |   Link |  Bookmark | October 23, 2022 10:39:42 PM
@Ravi sir buy karne ka banata h kya ? Varanium cloud
475. ANIL KUMAR AGRAWAL |   Link |  Bookmark | October 23, 2022 11:24:47 AM
Avenue sir Please advice on jeena shikho sme IPO. Now it's below issue prise
474. AAvi |   Link |  Bookmark | October 22, 2022 9:20:19 PM
Request someone to please clarify one aspect as many of you are veteran hare.
I am a new entrant.
1. If some one is not doing any job or business eg a student, earns a profit during listing, still he has to pay tax @15% on profit earned (suppose this was his only trade in financial year and there was no loss on any capital gain)
2. Take this IPO example, if someone has sold at 312/- so he has to deposit 40000/- as tax.
Thanks
474.2. PKRAJ |   Link |  Bookmark | October 22, 2022 10:58:22 PM
@AAvi
If someone means you, yourself.
If someone has no income and/or a student, the question comes how did he get money to apply in SME, more than one lakh. Source of income?
Income upto 250,000, you need not pay any tax. Question of STCG doesn't arise. Read IT Rules. Available in Google. Many rules to save Income Tax.
But from whom you have taken money, is very important. If a minor, and parent's money is involved, income clubbed with father/mother.
Tobe very careful. Follow IT rules to avoid problems. Consult your father, he might be knowing everything if filling ITR.
474.3. AAvi |   Link |  Bookmark | October 23, 2022 7:55:40 AM
@MehulStk thanks
@PKRAJ Sir. Thanks sir. I am in college final year. Money received from father as gift.
473. Gulsan |   Link |  Bookmark | October 22, 2022 6:29:54 PM
@Raunak Bhai hum retailers ko ye samzhna hi hoga ki market me agar apko survive karna hai to do galti nahi karni hai
1 - upar ke price par nahi khareedna hai chahe koi bhi kahe
2- limited quantity Leni hai
Ye dono galti aap ne Kari hai par himmat bahut hai apke paas sir hope for best
473.1. hope at SME |   Link |  Bookmark | October 22, 2022 9:19:15 PM
Thanks @ Gulshan Bro…
आप का बड़प्पन है, कि मेरी गलती को हिम्मत का नाम दिया l
दोष किसे दूँ, जब गलती खुद ने ही की है ,
सीख रहा हूँ धीरे धीरे , स्कूल फ़ीस तो देनी पड़ेगी ।।

Just praying to God - it’s the initial phase of my learning in SME and it’s the Tax Paid money.
बच्चे को माफ़ कर देना ।
और हौसला अफजाई के लिए , if 2-3 UC can happen than it shall be great …
Uske baad badon ke nirdeshanusar hi kadam badhaoonga…

472. Noorul |   Link |  Bookmark | October 21, 2022 10:16:37 AM
Sold at 315.
472.10. PKRAJ |   Link |  Bookmark | October 22, 2022 5:44:22 PM
@Raunak
No doubt you have taken a brave and risky decision. Now done is done. When it was at UC, I was not expecting that it will break. However the listing at very very unexpected level, in my opinion downside is expected at present. Set target according to your risk appetite. @Noorul is right.
Better to set a stop loss at 10% below your purchase price. See Muhurat trading. It may give you a good chance also.
Decision should only be yours. Operators can take it to any hight. Above or below. One of the highest listings in term of profit.
472.11. hope at SME |   Link |  Bookmark | October 22, 2022 9:10:39 PM
@Noorul & @ PKRAJ
Many many thanks for the guidance. It seems I have chosen a wrong path in the sheer greed. Very new to this SME movement. That’s the reason I created the id so that I can get replies and learn.
The forum is just great and seniors are trying to assist others with best of the their ability and intentions like Big Brother and close buddies.
What a FORUM !!
Koi Nahin ….
As it is in trade to trade my broker told me I can sell it earliest on 27th.
Even if I lose this time , I am sure will be able to earn in time to come. Just have to religiously learn from the experience of seniors and have to diligently follow their advice.
Thanks once again ….
471. Rohan Bajaj |   Link |  Bookmark | October 22, 2022 7:28:52 AM (300+ Posts)
I was alloted 1 lot but forgot that listing was yesterday. What should be the strategy now ? Please guide about possible target in short-term and long term.
471.1. PKRAJ |   Link |  Bookmark | October 22, 2022 3:50:57 PM
@Rohan
Has anyone expected this listing in our forum. I believe that everyone should draw a line for profit or loss. Greed has no line of control. Nobody has any idea that what will happen in future. There are many positive and negative examples. What you or our forum members say today, take that in consideration. To comment after playing a ball is very easy. Take an example of Harsha. Today there is no 'Harsh'. Are you a long term investor? SMEs are very risky and operator operated. Here you have no choice of booking half profit. Believe in Luck.
Consider your P&L account of shares and decide accordingly.
Suno sabki karo man ki. Never blame others for the decision taken by yourself.
Have a nice week end.
470. IPOLucky |   Link |  Bookmark | October 20, 2022 9:11:28 PM
Any recommendations with entry level?
470.8. lokes |   Link |  Bookmark | October 21, 2022 7:37:25 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (4300+ Posts, 5100+ Likes)
Good to meet you today @GJ @naveenk and one more guy :)
470.9. GJ 😀 |   Link |  Bookmark | October 22, 2022 3:11:11 PM
IPO Mentor IPO Mentor (1600+ Posts, 400+ Likes)
@lokes,
@naveenk
@A.A

It was a very good experience of meeting you guys.
Hope to see you soon again.
469. MRavichandran |   Link |  Bookmark | October 20, 2022 5:34:15 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (2000+ Posts, 2700+ Likes)
No regrets as same old story of highly subscribed issues.
0/15
0/15
0/204

Congrats and all the best for those allotted for block buster listing

Thanks
469.19. CB🤗 |   Link |  Bookmark | October 22, 2022 12:45:37 PM
IPO Mentor IPO Mentor (1300+ Posts, 400+ Likes)
@Lokes, there were 4applicants with 46lots.
46 Lot application shares = 2,20,800 (4 * 55,200)
Total HNI shares = 439300
Ratio= 0.50261

It was over 0.50% still no allotment in that group! How they are computing the 0.50+%?
469.20. CB🤗 |   Link |  Bookmark | October 22, 2022 12:56:39 PM
IPO Mentor IPO Mentor (1300+ Posts, 400+ Likes)
Please ignore my above message. I totally forgot that subscription times the main thing here.
468. Hostpacker |   Link |  Bookmark | October 21, 2022 1:55:58 PM
As per my Analysis. Basis of allotment works as mentioned below .

If HNI have Subscribe 555.5x then Just devide by 2 :. 555.5÷2= 277.75
Now you need partner to complete 277.75 then it will go under lottery system.

Suppose any one have applied for 70 lots then
Calculation would be like this .
70 × 4 = 280 Qualify
69×4 = 276 Not Qualify now here required 5 partner here.
69×5 = 345 Qualify.
468.5. CB🤗 |   Link |  Bookmark | October 21, 2022 9:28:56 PM
IPO Mentor IPO Mentor (1300+ Posts, 400+ Likes)
@Hostpacker: Even big HNI like @MRavi not able to guess the 50% mark so the game will be over when one will know if he applied for 50+% or not. The Divide By Four rule I mentioned merely on my own thought that , if implemented it will reduce the number of members reporting that they were not part of even lottery. See comments from @Lokes, his 46 lot application was not part of lottery as the 46 group was not above 50% and mine 21/ 24 was part of lottery with 1:23 ratio. If the rule was to group by 25% then it would have more members covered in the lottery. Anyway it will go as SEBI decides. Need to study BOA more to understand better.
468.6. Amit Surana |   Link |  Bookmark | October 22, 2022 12:26:13 PM (400+ Posts)
wondering why in BOA they have mentioned 1 : 1 even though when they have mentioned 0 shares in allotment... ???
it should had been 0 : Number of application received in such case naa???
467. bAAz |   Link |  Bookmark | October 22, 2022 8:48:56 AM
IPO Mentor IPO Mentor (700+ Posts, 400+ Likes)
Mainboard ipo
Bikaji foods
Tentative
3-7nov
Keystone Realtors ipo
Tentative
9-11 nov
467.1. Amit Surana |   Link |  Bookmark | October 22, 2022 12:09:06 PM (400+ Posts)
Bikaji foods around 420-450 in unlisted market...

shares which are already available in unlisted market doesnt seems to be giving good listing gain... (just last few observation).
467.2. bAAz |   Link |  Bookmark | October 22, 2022 12:25:38 PM
IPO Mentor IPO Mentor (700+ Posts, 400+ Likes)
Hoping so.ipo size expected 1000cr
466. PKRAJ |   Link |  Bookmark | October 21, 2022 7:15:28 PM
This year 2022 is great for SME. About 89 IPOs (Upto Frog,) entered the Market. 60 gave positive return, 27 negative and 2 neutral. Maximum return Rachana infra, Jayant Infra, Empyrean Cashews: all more than 600%. Cool Caps and Sailani Tours 300% or more.
Loosers include : Global Long and Kandarp 40% and more, Fone 4, Naturo and Dipna Pharma more than 35%.
So profit is more than loss. Figures are upto last week.
Correct me wherever wrong.
466.1. Amit Surana |   Link |  Bookmark | October 21, 2022 11:21:43 PM (400+ Posts)
and to add to this in the Year 2021 some SME IPO has now gain of more then 1000%... and the listing gain for those in most of the cases were in single digit and one of them was even discount listing...

need to calculate if someone invest in all 2021 SME IPO at listed price then what will be the positive today
466.2. Takamichi |   Link |  Bookmark | October 22, 2022 10:59:02 AM
IPO Mentor IPO Mentor (800+ Posts, 700+ Likes)
This year all there 500% up sme stocks r operator work whereas last year it was on company profile and result ..... So i see much more manipulation this year than last year.....
Most of the last year blockbusters have made big on their numbers and results .....
465. Monster Zero |   Link |  Bookmark | October 21, 2022 12:34:28 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (3100+ Posts, 2800+ Likes)
Primary pain: no allotment
Secondary pain : not alloted but listing at 3x..

1 year tgt should 15x the money.
VFX is the new trend.
Badhai ho allotees...
465.3. MUNAVIR |   Link |  Bookmark | October 22, 2022 6:50:30 AM


'Would see movement on T+2 day and then 10th day....
Hope would be getting more insights from u on this script....'

What is the special for 10th day of listing
465.4. Takamichi |   Link |  Bookmark | October 22, 2022 10:54:30 AM
IPO Mentor IPO Mentor (800+ Posts, 700+ Likes)
@munavir
10th is the last day to be in T+2 segment....from 11th day intra day is allowed....in many of the recently listed smes there has been good movement on the 11th day....