Koutons Retail India Limited IPO Message Board (Page 12)

are bhai koi hai jo sahi informtion de is issue ke bare me please i wanted to apply this issue
please suggest that i should apply or not??????????
please reply.

Thanks,

Dear Azhar,
First of all I want to tell you that I am not Mr. Cartoon... Its Koutons who is making people like you a cartoon...
Secondly, your statement shows how much knowledge you have in the market. The people like you never apply for IPO on their fundamentals but only on their subscription. It shows your incompetency to think about the fundamentals of the company.
I am betting you that the investors like you will got struck in this IPO post-listing & you will remember my words at that time. If not at that time then somewhere around you will definatly see the stock price below its issue price...
Secondly, subscription doesnt have any sense. If a issue like DLF hits the market (with size 10,000cr.) then definatly it will not got subscribed so much. But a issue like Koutons with issue size of mere 60cr. will definatly got oversubscribed.
I am trying to come with the IPO of my company with issue size of just 1cr. Then its sure that it will got oversubscribed hugely. Does it means that my company is fundamentally strong? It is just based on research work, which I dont think you have.
A person having such type of thinking in share market can never ever earn money. You are like crazy sheeps just copying others. Think from your own mind buddy, as god has given you so.
Finally, its up to you to apply or not. But, even after listening all such things, if you still want to apply then surely, I will pray to god to take care of you...

Koutons is the worst brand i have seen

nowadays even the IPOs are so pricy that the dividends do not even match chay-pani (a 5-10 rupee share priced at 500 plus is quite common these days) I wonder where we are heading to

Agreed that QIBs and NIIs have flocked to the issue. But, how can one justify promoters selling their stake ? 25% of issue on offer is resale of shares. So, 25% of investor money will not go for company/brand promotion, but to swell the kitty of Kohli & Sawhneys.

If promoters have faith in their product, they should at least maintain, if not increase, their stake in company.

Still, this issue may give 20-25% returns. But, there are many sure-shot scrips in secondary market which will give you more than this, in medium term. And, we have seen that huge QIB/NII subscription is no guarantee for huge listing gains. I am not applying in this IPO.

HI ,

THESE R D IPOS WHICH ARE VERY DIFFICULT TO ANALYZE, SINCE THE COMPANY WAS IN PROFITS WHERE AS THE PRODUCTS WHICH THEY R SUPPLYING IS REALLY BAD. HOW D COMPANY IS GETTING PROFITS IS REALLY MIRACLE. HOW EVER CM RATING WAS 44, YOU CAN APPLY FOR NOT A BIG AMOUNT.

WITH REGARDS,
NEW-ADVISOR.

Grey Market Premiums at EOD

Koutons will give good listing gains.

Company Offer Price Premium
Circuit Systems 35 4 to 5
Consolidated 460 to 510 130 to 150
Koutons India 370 to 415 85 to 90
Dhanus Tech 280 to 295 80 to 90
Kaveri Seeds 150 to 170 6 to 8
Allied Computers 12 1 to 1.50
Dagger Forst 45 No Deals

Power grid corporation 44 to 52 19 to 20
Magnum Ventures 27 to 30 1 to 2

IT may not be a good issue.The products are not that good.

dear mr.cartoon did u notice that it got subscribed 1.85 times on the first day itself i advice u to apply also

Hey Friends,

dont apply to this IPO. I have tried various brands of it whether Charlie or Koutons itself...
If u dont believe me, then can u give me a single reason why company is making profits even after giving 75% discounts. These are just the IPO promoting fundas.
I am myself a cloth merchant and earlier I also have the dealership of Koutons. In the beginning I made a hefty profits because customers are really crazy for such big discounts. But after some time most of them returned to me with a lot of complaints. The cloths they have purchased is of inferior in quality. When they used it they found that its life is very short. Moreover, most of the cloths looses their shines & size just in 3 to 4 hand washes. This is not the case with a single person but with almost all. Anyway, I triesd to run it for about 6 months & then finally I withdraw from dealership because I am loosing my own credit in my city because of this brand.
I examined have also examined the various fabric grades of other companies. I found that the cloth which is categorised as second grade in Raymond is considered as first or even export quality grade in Koutons. Here, I want to add up that I dont have dealership of Raymond or any other company till now. But, from my part I think that its my duty to make aware of u about this brand. Currently, I have decided not to stick to any brand & now I am selling local made fabric with wholesale rates & market. Believe me, but it is doing much better to my customers rather than Koutons.

I am not here to criticise the brand. May it would be possible that you have good experience with Koutons. But, on my front I think that its my duty to aware you about the company because a person having work ex. in company can tell you better about company.
Even if, now you want to apply then its totally upto you...

dear prabhi, u can either get ur checks cancelled or call the registrar and cancel ur application

very good IPO. you will get good listing gain. apply for this IPO

Hi all,

Is there any possible way to cancel an IPO Application which is made through ICICI Direct online?

I mean any possible way by approaching the Registrar or something ?

Thanks

I think better investment in Koutons Retail India (KRIL).

K.K.T.
I agree. I am telling that they did not allow for applying Motilal IPO online through their demat. Since everybody has different opinion see how much QIB portion is subscriped and then apply. That will give u a fair idea abt this IPO. Already 0.98 times subscribed overa all.

RAJEEV
ICICI REC ON MOTILAL WAS THAT
SHOULD APPLY & HAVE THIS KIND OF SHARE IN YOUR PORTFOLIO.

Guys, believe u me, ICICI gives really good advice. I have lost a lot of money in Nelcast, Insecticides IPO by not listening to them... but the main thing is that they dont consider LISTING GAINS while recommending the issue... they are mostly concerned with the NAV etc.... thats y they r missing on Koutons

ICICI are bogus and always running wrong propaganda

ICICI forecast is not always accurate. They keep fooling people. Did not allow its customers to apply for Motilal Oswal IPO. Koutons has the most number of outlets in India compared to Raymond and Zodiac(more than double).

ICIIC RECO..AVOID THIS ISSUE DUE TO HGH VALUATION BUT OTHER EXPERTS VIEW IS PO+ .
IS IT WORTH APPLYING ????

ARE THERE N E CHANCES OF LISTING GAINS .???
FOLLOWING IS ICICI VIEW .
Valuations
The PE range for Koutons Retail at the price band of Rs 370 to Rs 415 comes to 21.5x and 24.1x its diluted FY08E EPS of Rs 17.20. The issue looks expensive compared to other peers like Raymond, Kewal Kiran, and Zodiac Clothing which are trading at 14.1x*, 14.7x and 11.5x* of their FY08E earnings. We believe that though the company is growing at a fast pace, but the risks associated with the business model outweigh the company’s growth prospects and due to the expensive valuation recommend investors to avoid the issue.