Healthcare Global Enterprises Ltd IPO Message Board (Page 4)

When is the allotment status is going to be listed? will it will be listed through kary or linkintime?

What will be tentative listing price, any idea, anybody?

1/. Will it list at discount? If so how much will be share price.

2. Will it list at premium? If so, how much could be the premium?

3. If it lists at discounts, what will be strategy. whether to hold or buy more and average?

4. If it list at profit, what to do? sell it on listing day?

It will list at premium as calculated risk is taken by investers who applied in it and there is no mad rush like infibeam.all medical related ipos have given positive return
Lal
Alkem
Lincolin pharma
Nh
Syngene
This is may be not odd one out.

Shivajee difficult to say but seeing the subscription figures it would open in discount probably. Let''s see.

Tentative Listing Date: 30-Mar-16 Healthcare Global Enterprises

Would list on 24 I suppose?

March 30, 2016 according to RHP

HCG GMP discount 1/-

Nothing to panic. I have hopes on positive listing. I have seen their business model closely moreover if we lose something its just money which we can always earn it.
Panic will make you tensed and lose your health as well. Nothing more than health right right :).

Prasanth ur great.good strategy to invest

Prashanth Shiva

I m able to understand your views. My view is based on somebody going to a hospital and all treatment appears good there, we cannot come to a conclusion that business is profitable there. We have to be more intellectual than passionate or emotional as far as stock marrkets are concerned. The concept of follow your heart does not apply here. Here, I go by the saying, "follow your intellect". Stocks market has different mechanism. If it was less priced and if the subscription was more, we can understand that profitability is more (since demand is more). Your views are agreed in such scenario.

The topic about health and wealth has different perspective and it does not apply to stock markets. Stock market is all about money making only. On health, if we want to discuss, we can discuss about yoga, sports, diet, gym etc. I m also a very health conscious guy, strict in diet etc. Keep discussing in this forum. Learn about share market, IPO, secondary market.

I would suggest you to go deep into IPO study and never make mistake. Then later you can concentrate on secondary market if you like and if time permits. No need of any extra class, just follow seniors here RKS, Septa, all are very good. Some others are also there. They will come when good times come back.

Anyway HCG I dont want to see in red since I also applied thinking subscription was good, but bad it was.

Shivajee, also look at a companies potential for growth n how responsive the demographic profile of the country would be to its growth. Like Dr Lals. Although it was pricey but it was with investing becaof the reasons already mentioned. Also, first mover advantage is a big advantage as there r no listed companies to compare in the first place. So companies can ask for slightly expensive valuationswhich can be received enthusiastically or not will depend on companies history, its financials n future growth. Dr Lals is a case in point n Ingibeam is the worst case. So u have to deliberate before investing.

Shivajee never be in a hurry. First lesson. Second is- study the IPO understand n then invest. Simple way of understanding is that as an investor see the past history of the company, its profit n loss yr on yr, comparison to peer listed companies,, etc etc. Also, see QIB n NII subscription always. But caution is that u should also be cautious of WIB figures as they most probably will invest in any IPO. I have hardly seen an IPO which they have not subscribed to. What matters is how many times r they subscring the IPO. N lastly, always follow the NII subscription. They r smart investors. If they have subscribed to an IPO heavily then invest blindly. If the response is fully subscribing the IPO but not enthusiastically meaning number of times subscribed is less then if u want to invest invest in the minimum no of shares. I have tried to be as simple as possible.

Some fools always late.....some fools always early......some fools always remains fools.....


(Note : this is not related with rks )

Who are you referring to as fools....? Are you calling me a fool?

If you are so wise enough, then why don''t you educate the fools and make them wise like you?

Hi friends RKS, Eagle, Star IPO, Septa sir, Gravitas, and other boarders. Please answer this question immediately.

1. Any idea how to withdraw IPO application now in HCG?

2. How many days it will take money to get refunded since I applied through ASBA.

3. Is their any form to withdraw application, whom to apply for this, what documents and details required?

Thanks in advance.

Thank you septaji, I m now contacting the registrar if anything can be done.

If it is not able to be canceled, what do you think the listing price would be of this IPO (just your approximate estimation). It is less subscribed even comparing to QH. AFter the second day was fine with 75% QIB, i thought, it would be 10-15 x, but at the third day, subscription was so weak

Why ppl say its not possible to modify bid?

Check point # 17 on this FAQs http://www.nseindia.com/invest/resources/download/faqs_ASBA_IPO.pdf

Also check nseindia.com > IPO > HCGL > Post issue Modification Period      19-Mar-2016 (10.00 a.m. to 5.00 p.m.) and 21-Mar-2016 (10.00 a.m. to 1.00 p.m.)

Eagleye can u pl share the gmp of HCg

In HCG there is no meaningful grey market activity after close of issue

This is a bit out of context.. this is about Snowman Logistics...
The snails (both CEO as well as Chairman) have been recently replaced. The new (interim) CEO is Ishaan Gupta, a director in Gateway Distriparks. Does anyone has any idea about his credentials....

Septaji, RKS, has Ishaan done anything noticeable? He will only be in charge until they find a suitable replacement, I guess.

young chap in his 30 just out from business school son of KPD gupta.... nothing much been on payroll of his father company non-executive director title... now given the mantel to guide the ship of snowman that to on temp basis maybe again just on pay roll

Tks.

HCG will see a positive listing. It seems to have a unique model and plays in the disease area where we have huge demand-supply gap. This model will help make India face cancer Tsunami...To state some facts...
"There are more than three million prevalent cases of cancer in India, though the real number is likely tripled due to a large number of cases left undetected and unreported. India is projected to see 1.23 million new cancer cases a year, with a 20% increase expected by 2020, leading to 1.7 million new cases a year by 2035. "

To address these enormous concerns, the solution needs to be two-pronged: Indians need to be better educated on the disease and they need to have better, more affordable access to early diagnosis and care. I believe HCG is carving out its niche in this segment and we will see it become a big player catering to the real need of the market....

Not many understand the model but wait and watch to see the listing and I m sure it will cheer the market/investors....Just the way it happened in the case on Narayana hrudalaya.

Narayana hrudayalaya was subscribed 24 times in QIB category. But HCG has just 2.4 QIB.

1. In this scenario, how can you compare NH with HCG? Nobody has demanded, but supply is more. It will only list in discount. Its going to be flop IPO.

Good that response was not good from NII & RII.
So it will leave an impact on upcoming IPOs

Septa ji r u planning to buy HCG on listing day if it''s listed in discount ?

surely if it correct like QH

Agree with Septa.

frnds, sorry 4 disturb. buy plz. instead of ipo plz. pay attention on CENTURY ENKA-500280.
(1) ALL PLAGED SHARES RELEASED YESTERDAY BY PROMOTER COMPANY(KESORAM IND. LTD.
(2) THIS IS 50TH YEAR, BOOK VALUE RS. 325, SO 1:1 BONUS + SPECIAL DIVIDEND EXPECTED AS GOLDEN JUBILY YEAR.
REGULAU DIV. IS ALSO RS. 6/-. PROFIT WILL EXPEXTED RISE BY 25%.

Healthcare Global Ent Ltd., (HCG):
Final Subscription fig @ 6.30 p.m.
QIB*: 2.36×
HNI: 0.43×
RET: 0.83×
TOTAL: 1.56×
APPLN.: 20,459
* Excluding Anchor

Many sell apply application rate 300

1. I know i cannot become millionaire overnight but I get at least some profit right in listing gain?
2. I agree, I m a flip flopper. applying in cat or monkey. But I don''t know what other methods I have to follow. Truly, truly, I am not aware how you seniors are able to be successful. Whenever I enter a secondary market share, it becomes loss. AXis I bought at 475 100 shares, it went down nearly to 360. Indigo also same. Yes bank, ICICI bank went in red also.

People are telling sensex wil go 35 k or 50 k, but it is day by day coming down due to some other negative reason. I get discouraged and sell. Even RKS ji had written he square off all when there was downfall few weeks ago.

If you seniors explain a strategy, it will be helpful. May be seniors call junior loss makers fool, flip flop, or a platform roadside guy in stocks, but still I want to come up somehow in the stocks field. I m not ashamed of admitting myself being mistake-maker in shares. But by giving a strategy or road map, you seniors are only helping us. Nobody is independent in human society. We all are dependent on one another for something or the other.

Nobody would be a man now, without a parent taking care of us and making us big adults.

what is the final subscription status 1.56 ?

UBL:- Heineken has 42%, more than Mallya''s 37.5% but still lets Mallya call the shots. This is the biggest investment risk for UBL.

Let''s look at the sister concern USL owned by Diageo. USL ousted Mallya from the board, unearthed multiple scams Mallya had perpetrated & had to UBHL). Also, company gave loans to so-called third parties who allegedly on-lended to UBHL. So, USL had to provision for these huge irrecoverable loans & advances. All of this came to light only when Diageo took control from Mallya.

The same risk exists in UBL- we don''t know how many skeletons are there in the clobecaHeineken has let Mallya run the affairs at UBL. Once Heineken acquires more stake, that too by diluting Mallya''s stake, there is no question of letting that rascal run the show at UBL. Hidden scams will then find their way out into the light.

You may luck out & book a quick profit when Heineken raises stake but watch out for the aforesaid trap.

I''m replenishing some text missing in the below message....

USL had to make huge provisions of c. 5-6k crores in FY14 & about 2k Crores in FY15 for various loans & advances made to the holding company (UBHL) which in turn had invested in Kingfisher. Mallya milked the cash cows of UB Group. We know that it siphoned funds from USL & there is no reason to believe that it didn''t do the same to the other cash cow (UBL)...

please check subscription figure of bharat wire ropes