EMS financials and business plans are robust . Any operator or large investor may be tempted . But fact remains long term investors who get the allotment at 11 PE can not be loser .
Heard that some famous operator is promoting this IPO (People who closely follow IPO market might know him). Some caution recommended depending on the past events.
@newgen consultancy Hello sir, Can I hold Balaji Amines and Muthoot Fin for share holder category If any or Can I sell now and buy when RHP released sir? Will I be eligible If I buy on RHP date sir?
@dtrader I Personally Hold Balaji Amines But I think 5-6 months to go for the Big Event of Muthoot Microfin IPO , so can buy when it will be trading at 10-15% Dip Also I am Neutral On Muthoot , Take Your own Call on it
@newgen consultancy , @Smile✍️ I didn't mean it in a positive way. Infact I would recommend to be cautious based on the listing experience when this operator gets involved. My decision may turn out to be wrong but I will not go open, will Sell & Apply.
@newgen consultancy I'm holding Balaji Amines also for SH category only sir. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge sir 🙏 😊
18.7. Smile✍️| Link| Bookmark|
September 4, 2023 12:30:19 PM
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@GrayIsTheNewBlack Yes, Strong promotion is going on to promote this issue. Thanks for sharing concern. Why I am positive: I am satisfied with profit margin, it more than expected for mainboard, they have many government and private body clients so hoping profit margin won't decline but will sustain. Field in which they are working will not diminish So hoping for good post listing gains also.
@newgen consultancy Hello sir, Please do share some share in secondary market, I got some really good return from your past suggestion. thank you very much for that. Really appreciate your efforts and kindness.
18.9. IpoZINDAHAI| Link| Bookmark|
September 4, 2023 5:20:20 PM
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@greyisthenewblack
Quite true, the guys promoting the Ipo had equally promoted USK and even Spectrum. So I feel, one needs to be cautious for this issue and not just rely on GMP.
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September 4, 2023 6:36:04 PM
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@IpoZINDAHAI Ha Ha Ha Writely pointed 🥇 GMP always encourage us to apply but always not a true parameter to judge issue
@IpoZINDAHAI , exactly I was talking about the same operator as USK/Spectrum. @Smile✍️ , If there are funds I believe one should sell and apply and make use of high GMP.
@Tejas Pandya , chacha apna maal open nahi rakhte !! Retail wale bechare chacha ka confidence dekh kar open rakh lete hai, aur unka game ho jata hai 🤣
Waise CG pe bhi kuch senior members ko genuine maanta tha but they also promoted one issue heavily jo aaj tak apna IPO price bhi nahi touch kar paya.
18.16. IpoZINDAHAI| Link| Bookmark|
September 5, 2023 10:28:45 PM
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He is a good guy. I am part of his board cast group.
But rightly said needs to be cautious. I was alloted USK in BHNI and retail in spectrum. Both I booked loss. Hence, better to be cautious.
Haven't studied the RHP, so can't comment on the fundamentals.. But 100% people shouldn't rely on GMP atleast for EMS.
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September 6, 2023 9:27:33 AM
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@GrayIsTheNewBlack@IpoZINDAHAI who is the promoter here that u r talking about?? how to join his broadcast group pls explain it can benefit this forum's lot of members
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September 6, 2023 7:15:34 PM
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@GrayIsTheNewBlack Yes, saturday class wale chaha full form me hain..Dhyan rkhna..kahi listing pee long term investor na ban jayee :P
18.19. SONMAYA| Link| Bookmark|
September 6, 2023 9:25:09 PM
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Thanks to all who have informed about So called .. OPERATOR... Just humble REQUEST as and when you get any info please share hear for our many INNOCENT investors.....🙏 Thanks for sharing info for our CHITTORGARH MEMBERS...🙏
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September 6, 2023 11:17:51 PM
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Kya retired government teacher ki baat ho rahi hai? (chacha)
@ Jetha Lal, Chairman himself is former Govt Official. EMS bids only Asian Development funded projects from urban local bodies which cash rich so that it does not have to face payment delays. Their work specifically on projects where funding is already secured.so that it does not face delayed payments. Payment are cleared within 90 days of completion of work. Plus it is net zero debt. L&T margins 11%,KEC International 5.12% Ircon Intl 10,8% and NCC 9.7% EMS is building Tower for RBI in Mumbai and not averse to construct residential towers. Market is giving premium over Rs.100. It is good long-term bet for 3-4 years for good gain. FY revenue growth 30%.They have already bid for 3000 Cr and waiting for outcomes.
16.1. Jetha Lal| Link| Bookmark|
September 3, 2023 6:22:29 PM
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@RAMU Thanks sir for enlightening me. I would look forward to study more when i get RHP.
A Rajkot Gujarat based company very very reputed organization I know and heard about owners as it's from my city (Best of my knowledge) Let's wait for valuations and details
Jyoti CNC RAJKOT(GUJARAT) base company located in Matoda GIDC, Loss making.....Passing through difficult time, One of my friend doing job in this company, he said, company is not giving salary regularly to his employee...
Dear newgen, today buy aeroflux @166/-, but down to 161/-, feel wrong decision taken, please🙏 suggest can tomorrow booked loss and enter other which you please suggest. Thanks
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September 2, 2023 3:22:42 PM
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In my calculation post issue P/E comes around 10.45 FY 23. I couldn't find RHP and March 2023 financial in DHRP but by considering net profit provided on this forum and post issue no. of shares issued P/E should be around 10.45.
All their orders in hand around 1800 Cr to be executed in 2-3 years @ 20-22% margin and orders of those Companies which are approved by World bank. Look at their selection process being an Infra Company. Water Sewerage Company leader Va Tech Wabag Ltd trading at P/E of 134 and this is giving at 10 P/E . Small Capital IPO only 300 Crs is an advantage. It will 3x 4x or more in 2 years.
12.1. Jetha Lal| Link| Bookmark|
September 2, 2023 3:03:21 PM
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@RAMU In FY 23 VA Tech had Rs 243 cr of exceptional and one time adjustment which showed loss in FY and hence PE got inflated but if you calculate PE except that exceptional item then for FY 23 it comes around 23 times. Rarely any industry or company made wealth for investors who are into B2G business i.e business with government only exception are defence stocks which have kind of monopolies. Short term or momentum gain is possible in these stocks but these are not portfolio stocks for longer time.
Fantastic IPO !!!. Will give more than double in a year and 3 to x in 2 years. On all parameters it is excellent. Six Sigma IPO.
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September 1, 2023 12:45:52 PM
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At first sight issue looks attractive. Decent valuation
100%promoters holding Almost debt free I think there are only 3 listed peers of this company 1.Va tech wa beg ltd - p/e-93 because of nearly 90% decrease in profit.2.indian hume pipe company : p/e-33
3.felix industry:p/e-55 Industry P/E in around 18-19 so i think there is something for investors on table.