I am not going to apply whatever may be the subscription. Not fair to support these overvaluation without any unquie business model and so many good listed peers available. Experts please let me know any points I am missing in this IPO.
76.1. arunARUN| Link| Bookmark|
March 12, 2021 9:34:16 AM
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Looks debt fueled growth, hence higher debt. IPO amount 500+ crores goes to debt reduction, this should help improve ebita and overall metrics. And also they look ambitious, seeking acquisitions. Depends on what kind of company and how much they gonna pay will determines future.
Guys or experts anyone pls give me a strategic plan for applying for next IPOs according to my budget and availability of PANs.. I hav funds of 1.6L and 4 Dmat accounts.my expectation is only for listing gains whatever the gains percentage .So accordingly can u guys suggest me with priority list out of 6 IPOs coming in next week within my budget . Thanks in advance 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
I will consider to add some qty at CMP despite a horrible experience in previous Quick Heal Buyback (2019) In 2019, Buyback size was around 10% but this time it is around 25% . Hence may be considered for purchase to tender in buyback.
Thanks.
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73.1. arunARUN| Link| Bookmark|
March 11, 2021 5:53:38 PM
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Interesting part is that this company did IPO at Rs 321 just 4 5 years ago and buying back at much lower price. Good way to take out tax free money for promoters
73.2. sree vas| Link| Bookmark|
March 11, 2021 7:02:38 PM
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@aniketiaf,
do u have any idea of Bharat rasayan & niit buyback tendering dates
Aniket ji, very kind of you. In fact, I am about to ask for your views on this buyback. Once again thank you very much for your kind guidance from time to time on almost all matters. Please continue to help the forum like this.
73.4. Safe Bet| Link| Bookmark|
March 11, 2021 9:14:10 PM
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Any platform where one can know about buy backs before the record dates??
Aniket ji, I am rather curious to know about the horrible experience, as referred to above. If you don’t have any concern, kindly share for our enlightenment. We may take the horrible experience into consideration before taking decision regarding the current buyback. Sir, i am extremely sorry, if I am troubling you. I am sure that you will understand my concern. Thank you very much, sir, for your kind guidance from time to time.
73.6. Aniketiaf| Link| Bookmark|
March 11, 2021 9:39:33 PM
IPO Guru (1800+ Posts, 10200+ Likes)
KAMMA SIVA RAMA KRISHNA JI,
In 2019, I bought huge qty of Quick Heal @ 235 (approx) to tender in buyback. But a continuous fall in share price started before record date. 30% of my shares taken by company during buyback @ 275. But the price of leftover 70% shares reached below 100 within a year. Somehow I sold some quantity @ 150 , some are still in my holding. It was a loss making step last time. But This time the Buyback size is very good (25% i.e maximum size that can be bought back by company) hence (Hopefully) a better appreciation is on the way.......
Aniket ji, thank you very much for your kind response. We are all indebted to you for your prompt analytical views. God bless you with all the best to you.
73.8. Aniketiaf| Link| Bookmark|
March 12, 2021 8:13:04 AM
IPO Guru (1800+ Posts, 10200+ Likes)
Calculation Error
In Quick Heal, only 63.25 lakh shares are bought back (Around 10% of Equity instead 25% ) Hence Expected ER - 10% Expected AR - 30%
No charm to purchase at CMP. Can be added around 180.
Aniketiaf sir What to do with MTAR allotment? Exit on listing day or wait for few days or hold it for long term? Flood of ipo next week, if you can priorities to apply for listing gain then that would be really helpful for retail subscribers. Kindly reply guru ji🙏🙏🙏
Itne IPO ke liye rupey kese laaye? Thode thode karke ipo kyu nahi launch karte he aur ipo khulte bhi bahut mushkil se he, aur khulte he to irfc, sbi card jese ipo khul jaate he jo listing gain hi nahi dete
I''ve two DMAT account 1) Zerodha, 2) GROWW and 5 bank accounts. Usually I subscribe all the IPOs for all the bank account. Is this the reason for rejection of IPO applications (because of multiple subscribe from same DMAT)?
Is it good to hold Heranba and Anupam Rasayan or sell it immediately?
69.1. lekker| Link| Bookmark|
March 12, 2021 4:35:33 AM
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One PAN one application is allowed, if you are submitting multiple applications with same PAN then all applications are liable for rejection.
68. ipo share| Link| Bookmark|
March 11, 2021 10:57:43 PM
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Forum exoerts, please guide whether it is advisable to invest in this ipo considering high valuations as compared to its peers.
PE = 90+ Price to Book = 8x --- Valuation calculation with Assumptions --- Price value from EPS growth = Rs.570 Price value from DCF = Rs.486
---- Details from RHP ----
---- Reason for Listing ---- - Repayment of Debt => From the 760Cr raised, Out of 850Cr Debt, 560Cr will be repayed - General corporate purposes => not more than 190Cr will be used
---- Business ---- - Custom synthesis and manufacturing of specialty chemicals - Producing Life science products => Manufacturing of Agrochemicals, Personal care & pharmaceuticals - Other Specialty chemicals => Dyes, Polymer additives and Pigments - R&D for innovation and cost reduction - Continuous flow chemistry tech to manufacture the products
---- Comments ---- - Indian chemical market growth expected CAGR of 9% in the next 4yrs - Indian Crop protection expected industry growth in the next 4yrs => Export - CAGR 9% => Domestic - CAGR 4% - Indian Active Pharmaceutical Ingredient market growth expected at CAGR 8% in the next 4yrs - Indian market for custom synthesis and manufacturing is expected to grow at 12% CAGR in the next 4yrs - 90% of revenue is from LifeScience products(crop protection has a 70% share in the 90%) and the rest of them is from Other specialty chemicals - 60% of revenue is from Exports and the rest are domestic - 85% of revenue is from top 10 customers - Though there are good entry barriers for this industry, due to the number of competitors, the market share of Anupam Rasayan is expected to be less/avg in crop protection chemicals - Export relations: => Exports across EU, US, Japan with 36%, 4%, 6% of revenue share respectively => Some International customer relations with 10yrs and above - R&D helped to increase product portfolio count from 25 to 41 since 2018 - Has 6 manufacturing units - Self Manufacturing of raw materials has reduced 5% in importing - Number of customers has increased from 34 to 53 in the last 5yrs - Promoters have 20-30 yrs of experience - ROE is less than 10% => Debt repayment decrease the interest cost which increases ROE in the coming yrs - Free Cash Flows are not there but improving over the yrs - Debt to equity will decrease and the current ratio is good and will improve
---- Litigations ---- - Outstanding dues to Material Creditors is of Rs.136Cr
67.1. jajo| Link| Bookmark|
March 11, 2021 9:57:00 PM
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Thank you for the detailed information and analysis
Good Anchor Book Mostly Foreign Fund Once again Malabar Fund invested. It will list with good premium, It will not behave like Heranba. Dear Lekker, If allotted keep for six months for good retrun. (50% sell on listing balance hold for six months)
66.1. lekker| Link| Bookmark|
March 11, 2021 5:57:04 AM
IPO Guru (1300+ Posts, 1900+ Likes)
Yes sir, good anchor book, 👍🏼Will follow strategy, i am expecting this will boom after few trading sessions .
Check valuations, there is not much positives in the company to give such a high premium as compared to peers. It will definitely correct after listing.
I have two demat accounts with different PAN numbers, but while applying for IPO I used the same UPI ID, will this cancel my application from both accounts?
That''s how most of the IPOs are. Reward for promoters and early investors. In fact, there would be some relatives and employees who would have got free shares. That''s how entrepreneurs become rich.
63.2. BubbleBoy| Link| Bookmark|
March 11, 2021 8:58:27 PM
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Hi Experts, I am planning to apply in HNI category in Anupam and only one lot in RII category in Laxmi and avoid Craft based on the GMP. Is this a prudent decision?
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March 11, 2021 8:31:59 PM
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GMP as on 11 March 2021 --------------------------------------------- Anupam Rasayan 260-270 --------------------------------------------- MTAR Technologies 500-510 --------------------------------------------- EaseMyTrip IPO 150-160 --------------------------------------------- Laxmi Organic 80-90 --------------------------------------------- Kalyan Jewellers 30-40 ---------------------------------------------
This is only listing gains ipo because it''s valuations are far higher than established players and also other concern is wc cycle. Sell on listing n enjoy ipo festival. IPO ka mela bhara hai.