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28. Sachin Sarda |   Link |  Bookmark | October 13, 2017 6:16:26 PM
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Beware of Anil ambani group
27. shantanu gosh |   Link |  Bookmark | October 13, 2017 2:30:57 PM
i am not even asking people to subscribe to Reliance nippon IPO, Point was with malafide intention some people on forum were doing jugglery with numbers, so i countered them. Btw Nippon are marquee Investors n not only will stock list in premium, they dont need Retail investors to keep them afloat, will command mcap of 16,000 crore post listing pop.Its third largest AUM.

Just because TTML has closed down doesnt make tata chors,

Tata power, Indian hotel, Tata steel,Tata sponge,Tata metalik all tata group stocks have not given return in past 10-12 years, They are still pre 2007 prices or barely there.

Yes TCS, Tata motors and Tata elxsi have made money because they were in sectors that was darling of Current bull market.. Btw TCS has not created wealth for shareholders in past 3 years n going ahead things looking gloomy for TCS..


Just because L&T twins have not given return doesnt make L&T chors

Just because Bharati has not given any returns to share holders in past 10 years dont make them chors,

Similarly failure of Rcom or Power dont make Anil a chor.

Rpower failure has to do with UPA govt policy & 2g scam. In fact Tata power, NTPC are also at pre 2007 level.They have barely made money for investors.

Limited point. Indians are good at name calling.
27.18. OldFox |   Link |  Bookmark | October 13, 2017 4:23:13 PM
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Nice work ShantanuDa.....
27.19. Atul Kumar |   Link |  Bookmark | October 13, 2017 5:51:46 PM
You should not compare bharti and tatas with anil ambani.bharti came at rs 45 ipo. Tcs came at rs 750 and its effective value in 10 years is 16 times.its a fact that none of the Anil ambani companies or even that of mukesh ambani except the recent rise of reliance industries have given any return to share holders.its just to caution and investors need to take their own decisions.post ipo, anil ambani and nippon eill hv equal stake
26. Manofsteel |   Link |  Bookmark | October 13, 2017 5:44:24 PM
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Future Performance Can''t be Judged By past Data.
This is Stock Market.
It can make the poorest of Companies Super Rich. And The riches to Poor.
There are so many examples.
As for Reliance Nippon. Everybody Knows If It gets multiple times oversubscribed. Everyone''s Gonna Apply!
So No Wasting Time. In Blaming Anil Ambani or His other ventures.
25. bhaumik |   Link |  Bookmark | October 13, 2017 5:41:21 PM
Reliance Nippon Agar GMP 60 ++++ Open huva to thik he agar 50 ------ Mehuva to 1:1 Bonus dega Baki to Anil ambani hi jane
24. anubhavP |   Link |  Bookmark | October 13, 2017 5:40:41 PM
लगता है अनिल अंबानी ने शांतनु घोष के नाम से फेक id बनाया है।।। और जनता का मूड समझने यहां आया है।।।। ,????????????

लगता है कि जवाब भी मिल है गया है अब ।।।
23. Super Trader |   Link |  Bookmark | October 13, 2017 5:28:40 PM (200+ Posts, 100+ Likes)
Anil Ambani group. clear avoid.
22. Arundp |   Link |  Bookmark | October 13, 2017 5:13:34 PM
Won''t even get50% subscription figures.
21. SUNILM |   Link |  Bookmark | October 13, 2017 5:05:41 PM
ADG group has disappointed investors. Past ,Present , Future all are in dark. Avoid issue.
20. Ocean |   Link |  Bookmark | October 13, 2017 2:17:36 PM
Coming from Reliance ADAG group means strict no. Management team is pathetic. After seeing how their group companies are faring, it''s a big big avoid. And ever that, it is fully priced leaving nothing for short-term investors. And it''s quite scary to think about long-term perspective considering groups track record.
20.4. Ocean |   Link |  Bookmark | October 13, 2017 4:50:27 PM
@gosh. After split airtel is trading at 430''s that is still around 860. But not in double digits. And coming to TCS you "cherry-picked" last 4 years data, unlike your 2007-08 data only to support your argument. After considering last 4 years data, TCS has still given 20% returns, unlike trading at fractions of listing price. RNRL even after merging it into RPower is trading at 40''s, is Tata power also trading at such low fractions. And what about RCAP, now which group company will you bring to compare now. Every group has some loss making companies, while some created wealth, but ADAG group has only loss making companies, losses that can destroy wealth like no other companies did.

Now please for god sake, don''t bring the flawed logic like free shares and all. There are no free shares. When it spun off, we got shares as per the valuations of those respective companies.
20.5. raj narang |   Link |  Bookmark | October 13, 2017 4:55:48 PM
Fully agree
19. chitra kamat |   Link |  Bookmark | October 13, 2017 4:55:23 PM (200+ Posts, 200+ Likes)
This forum is discussing ADAG group . Instead discuss about RNLA since many are seeking clarity on merits of the issue. If there governance issue as regards THIS Company let us discuss that also, but without getting emotional about it.
18. chitra kamat |   Link |  Bookmark | October 13, 2017 4:54:48 PM (200+ Posts, 200+ Likes)
This forum is discussing ADAG group . Instead discuss about RNLA since many are seeking clarity on merits of the issue. If there governance issue as regards THIS Company let us discuss that also, but without getting emotional about it.
17. CM |   Link |  Bookmark | October 13, 2017 4:45:16 PM
Anil bhai ne rupiya nai apay.... everytime he is coming with new business idea and it will be ensure that at every level of entry, investor will exit with loss......telecom,power,defence,infra and now mutual fund.i will buy if anil ambani is not promoter..........
16. UnderRighter |   Link |  Bookmark | October 13, 2017 3:44:45 PM
This guy should give back our Reliance Power IPO money first.... :) He took 10000 crores via IPO some years back to start the Dadri power plant. Did the plant even start? what happened with the 10k crores?
16.2. UnderRighter |   Link |  Bookmark | October 13, 2017 3:56:14 PM
r u Anil Ambani?
16.3. Arundp |   Link |  Bookmark | October 13, 2017 4:44:16 PM
Shantanu show your upbringing. Why you abusing so many members here. If you don''t like here go somewhere else. Hope moderator bans you from this forum.
15. Nicks Jain |   Link |  Bookmark | October 13, 2017 4:37:46 PM
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Heard 55-60 Grey Mkt Premium.
Pl confirm if anyone is aware..
Thx
14. AVI... |   Link |  Bookmark | October 13, 2017 4:00:43 PM
Last time reliance power lekar Aya that tha.
Pure market ka power Nikal diya.
Ab dekhte hain Nippon kya karta hai
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14.1. Shujaat |   Link |  Bookmark | November 3, 2017 7:01:12 PM
Nippon is not controlled by ADAG alone here. Nippon is also involved. So even if he wanna chew money then Nippon would kick his butt :D
13. Arundp |   Link |  Bookmark | October 13, 2017 3:13:18 PM
ADAG have the guts to come out with IPO. Shameless fellow won''t even give him 1 Re . Amabani are the biggest looters of India
13.1. shantanu gosh |   Link |  Bookmark | October 13, 2017 3:38:11 PM
who asked u to subscribe Rpower at rich valuations? Were u fool not to understand that even NTPC have not made money in power sector as it has long gestation period?

Trade with stop loss buddy.Calling anyone looter etc reflects poor upbringing n u sound as sore loser.
13.2. Arundp |   Link |  Bookmark | October 13, 2017 3:41:22 PM
Upbringing . Lol
12. Uchit Patel |   Link |  Bookmark | October 13, 2017 2:29:34 PM (500+ Posts, 1500+ Likes)
No need to study any financial nos., growth, peer comparison etc.
Clear avoid. Past records of all ADAG companies is bad. ADAG Group is not trust worthy. Not investor friendly group.
12.1. Solution of Queries |   Link |  Bookmark | October 13, 2017 2:37:42 PM (1100+ Posts, 1400+ Likes)
I will go with sell applications in grey if any rate will quote ,
12.2. Uchit Patel |   Link |  Bookmark | October 13, 2017 3:22:52 PM (500+ Posts, 1500+ Likes)
That is also good idea in this IPO. Sell applications in Grey Market. No Risk
11. Arundp |   Link |  Bookmark | October 13, 2017 3:19:42 PM
ADAG shares have always given negative returns on listing. This won''t be any different for sure.
11.1. shantanu gosh |   Link |  Bookmark | October 13, 2017 3:21:14 PM
Which shares of ADAG have given negative listing? except Relpower? enlighten us gyaani
10. Solution of Queries |   Link |  Bookmark | October 13, 2017 2:14:20 PM (1100+ Posts, 1400+ Likes)
most welcome of Mr. Shantanu Ghosh , now here give your soooo called gyan !! lol
10.4. shantanu gosh |   Link |  Bookmark | October 13, 2017 3:09:06 PM
@ raj rocks

trading bhi karte hai aur woh bhi HFT -- quant

Aur baat rahi message ki, Pratap ne shorting ki opportunity hi nahi di, first 3 hours mein, stock collapsed only in afternoon n recovered .. Fekuji raj rocks ( aka LOLUTIONS of queries)
10.5. raj rocks |   Link |  Bookmark | October 13, 2017 3:15:02 PM
@shantanu , kbi preopen short kiye ho.....kha se kiye honge agr kch ata pta hota to.....

hmari sun lo ab,,,,
mne 1160 pr sell ki bid lgayi thi after see @SOQ message , 9:45 AM pr automatic 1270 pr short ho gya instead of 1160

open hote hi ek br 1318 gya fr down 1240 tk
i booked my profit 1220 around...

low dkh le....1137 in NSE , mtlb 133 rs. profit in short selling agr krta to but krna sikh le phle ase trade
9. CA AMIT AT |   Link |  Bookmark | October 13, 2017 2:41:32 PM
Clearly AVOID. Don''t have trust on ADAG Companies. See the Reliance Power. No clear vision for future in this group. They are just trapping retail investors in IPO. Hardly any retail investor make the money in ADAG group.

Dis closer - This is my personal opinion & experience in past IPO.

Choice is yours because money is yours.

9.3. shantanu gosh |   Link |  Bookmark | October 13, 2017 3:03:55 PM
@ chandu amit

Why have 2008 as benchmark?

Check 2000 year when Rel capital was 60 bucks now 550! why take 2008 ? by that yardstick ongc, ntpc, tata steel, tatapower, bharti airtel,indian hotel,bhel have not made money for investors in past 10-12 years.
9.4. shantanu gosh |   Link |  Bookmark | October 13, 2017 3:05:15 PM
@ chandu amit

There are execution problems in infra, power sector due to policy paralysis during UPA every industrial group bore burnt

Your favorite L&T is in mess as far as Hyd metro project is concerned. Do google n check out. So do not single out ADAG group.

Btw.. Telecom industry saw collapse of Tata,Idea,AIRCEL,Videcon.. Why single out RCOM?