Vivo Collaboration Solutions Ltd IPO Message Board (Page 3)

Same thoughts… 👍👍

@Noorul.. yes waiting for Nupur listing to decide on Vivo though I havn''t been alloted. My concern is that Nupur''s excellent listing will result in VIvo''s high subscription irrespective of it''s financials, which being SME are already not well researched. And also vice versa too.
Last funds division between mainline IPO and SME was not a good experience as I was pushed to lottery in both, though i managed to get a lot with Mappy HNI application. This time same IPO situation...

@ Avenue.. This whole year experience gave me a conclusion that we should stick to that "Bird in a hand" theory.. when multiple ipo running at a time.. I did sacrifice medplus and Data pattern.

Yes this theory won''t b that much effective after 31st march. When restriction on nbfc will b implemented, after that we may get multiple ipo in a same account at a same time.
You and Suneel both divided the fund in aim to get multiple ipos at a same time and that gamble prove to b blunder and u both paid heavily.. becaz all d mainboard ipos r not performing as per Gmp and d hyped that created by Market.

@Noorul.. Yes agreed to what ever you said, but my case was a bit different. I aimed at two birds just to get SME experience as I thought it was a least risk opportinuty. I applied for 339 lots in Mappy making it 75%+ candidate and have succesfully got one lot. The other part of 21 lots Nupur decision went sidways due to unexpected 53x times subscription of HNIs which I expected to be around 30-35x max.
Looking forward for great listing of Nupur tomorrow and experts opinion on Vivo and CMS.....

@Noorul, Avenue:
This time CMS looks to be disaster with subscriptions to be so low low. I''m also waiting for Nupur listing and take a decision on Vivo. I have funds to apply for 38 lots.

On the other side, secondary markets looks bit stabilized and gives bit more confidence to apply in Vivo. I''m completely avoiding CMS.

@Lokes, What are you doing here?

Still lokes has commented on this IPO.
It seem the subscription will be more than Nupur.

@Dinesh, size of Nupur is 8 times bigger than Vivo. Obviously Vivo subscription will be very higher, could be HNI go upto 70X.

However, I don''t know fundamentally whether Nupur is good or Vivo is good.

Might be IPO Gurus can comment for everyone''s interest.

@noorul@avenue: I just want to add that, we need to be lucky also other than your logic of applying all funds at one place (if we can''t cross total HNI subscription still after putting all available money or whatever money).
@dinesh @suneel: ya its a sure apply ipo from all points, no doubt, but was hesitating to post somehow, my mood was bad for no allotment in nupur.
Here also allotment is all about luck since i don''t have much funds available to cross even half of total HNI subscription. I may apply in retail only in vivo if here subscription crossing by 30X in HNI by 2.50pm and then I may take some risk by putting some/most of my funds in cms info ipo if that crosses 20X in QIB/HNI by 2.50pm to get big allotment there and that has 10-12% gmp as of now and markets looks stable and company financials/growth is also looking good there.
Will decide tomorrow what to do at 2.50pm.

Vivo Premiums Rs 28000/-
We think In Retails category Subscription more than 60 time

@Lokes,
Looks both of us in same boat in Nupur.
CMS numbers are looking very very low, even thought numbers might slightly increase by tomorrow.

I would suggest Vivo is better, but you are the Guru and u will take right decision tomorrow at 2 50PM

@suneel: ya in cms, i may take risk only when both condition will satisfy: crossing above 20X in HNI/QIB in cms and if in vivo HNI crossing too much. Else i will apply in vivo only in HNI.
And even right decision also needs luck sometimes :(
I am waiting for nupur BOA to check what happened with me there, still not able to believe i was not allotted, surely i am the single unlucky there from all applicants along with me :(

And these Guru tag etc doesn''t matter, we all are learning and earning and gaining experience from here and helping each other, that is good enough. Only thing is, when we are tagged as guru, then we shouldn''t be too harsh/strict/rude and shouldn''t use too strong words while presenting our views here regarding any ipo apply/avoid. @Dinesh Singh must be remembering what i am taking about.

@lokes As you rightly said luck plays a factor too when we don''t have right amount of funds to apply and aim for atleast 1 lot by guessing the final subscription numbers.

As you are well experienced already in IPO''s, don''t feel bad for missing one IPO lot allocation (Nupur). May be right strategy has to be applied, I am sure you will analyze the BOA and plan better for upcoming IPO''s and pass on the knowledge/information to others as you usually do. Keep rocking.

@Noorul, Lokes, Avenue

HNI will cross 100X easily.
I think we all will get in lottery.
But better than CMS, any suggestions?

Thanks.

@suneel: i have informed my opinion yesterday. accordingly only i will decide at 2.50pm. And i don''t think it will cross 100X in HNI, but there may be some chances of that, if cms will go really bad so any expected HNI money from there can come here.

@noorul That has been my strategy too. Go all in and confirm 1 ipo at least and apply retail in the rest. Retail allotments also surprise sometimes. 😉

I''m not that convinced abt CMS as I mentioned yesterday ( Pls Note : I''m talking abt CMS on SME page and not abt SME on Main board IPO page 😂)

Call for Vivo should be taken at 2.45 pm as @lokes pointed out.

@suneel I second your opinion that LOKES is THE guru. I guess he''s got a Google glass overlay which is logged into Chittorgarh at all times... Looking at the speed and the quality + Volume of the content he posts. 😂

@lokes Keep up the good work buddy.

@Lokes.. if you can share please tell us with how many lots you applied in Nupur and why do you want to see BoA.
I applied with 21 lots and with final 53x subscription never had a chance.

Hello all, doesnt 4.4 CR issue size looks issue to you guys? Highly illiquid? Just 350 lots... compared to 32CR 2700 lots of nupur to trade on exchange....

@MK: hahah :) ya from last two months, there were lots of ipo and so i was also active more here ;) luckily office work is less from some months so side by side keep checking forums. And next week also full holiday. I have heard 2022 will also be good year for new ipos in terms of fund raising.
@avenue: ya i will share after i see the BOA document once.
@snipper: its upto you that you take it as issue or as opportunity :) Even nupur hitting circuits so it will hit for sure being less float.

Applied 30 lot. No need to wait unnecessarily when things r already cleared.. Although will go in lottery .. expecting hni crossing 75x.

@Noorul.. always the first...
@Lokes..and others Should I apply for 49 lots or 50 lots.

@avenue: decide at 2.50pm guessing final subscription, rest u know very well how much :) and here (sme) also, most probably you will be allotted if single and above 0.5 else same lottery case.

@noorul jaha comment karta hai vahi pe HNI THREAD sharu ho jati hai.

@Avenue.. i had to.. no other choice..
When i opened a account in kotak that time i didn''t hve any idea about hni category n didn''t knw it will give so many wounds on my chest.. :)

@M.k .. u can post as much msgs as you want about main board.. nobody hve any problem😂.. and yes i did post nasty msgs about sme in main board.. but @ krupa expose that plan..
Anyways she shouldn''t had done that.. whatever i was trying to do was in best of interest for all of us. But what to say..
And yes today @ krishna ( he or she don''t knw) also made a mistake in cms page..
I think delete comment option should b der.. to rectify such silly mistakes.

Applied 37 Lots.
Way subscription is going on, it looks it will be 150X. So chances are only 25%

I applied 30 lots.. if anybody hve capacity similar to this number.. i would suggest to apply same number of lots me (30).. so one of us hve some chance of allotment.. as its already below 50%.

Applied with 3 applications for 50, 5 and 3 lots.

Not sure to get 1 lot even this time seeing crazy HNI sub. figures...

Applied 71, 51 and 9 lots in 3 accounts . lets hope for the best.

@noorul for my knowledge...what is the logic behind keeping the same lots (30) for high probability of allotment? thanks

@lokes, @Noorul and others,
Applied FF 218 lots, first time I feel 🤞 to get one lot here

Thanks

@cdinesh...If I was you I would have applied for 70, 50 and 9 (if possible 10) lots.
Though it hardly matters as now we all are in lottery....

This IPO reminds me of Sharda Unversity Ad...
"Whole World is here... Where are you..."

@MRavi sir you are great. Please add one more number in your admirers. 👍

Applied for 47 lots and 6 lots in retail.

In hindsight, should have kept it to 45 lots or even 40 for the @lokes technique... Slipped my mind totally... Let''s see now.

No matter where this share lists... The person getting allotment should feel very very happy as the odds are stacked heavily against.
( exception : @MRavi... U should feel good too... But we shouldn''t use words such as ''odds'' for you 😂)

@ Avenue , I am unaware on this logic of applying in whole numbers . Can you explain, so that i shall follow it in future.

@Anari,
Thanks

@MK,
the way in which the subscription figures going up, I thought that I will also in Lottery. Lets see.
Of course, the fun to get allotment and see the listing day price movements are something I like it very much. when in lottery, to get allotted, it will be real pleasure (like this case).

p.s: Federal stopped printing 😜😂. all money struck in all IPO of last one year or so... not sold anything so far.

Thanks

@c.dinesh... not that simple to explain. I suggest you to ckeck Latent View IPO HNI Threads 1 and 2. I hope you will get all answers there...

There is a truth hidden behind these big subscription figures..
"People r not fearing Sme anymore."

@c.dinesh @Unknwon : you can go through messages of below thread whenever you get time to understand about hni application thing:

https://www.chittorgarh.com/ipo/ipo_discussions.asp?a=1178&c=468061&ap=0

lol so high subs...applied 81 lots ..81/216 chance in lottery...not possible to get ...anyone other who is in range between 80~100 lot app?

Good luck to all. May all of you get 1 lot each n spend the premium earned on new year eve ;)

thanks @lokes. will go thru the same.

@ Avenue, Lokes , Thanks for sharing the info . will surely go through the link.

This SME IPO is great for one special reason that MRavi too have become a lottery candidate for 1 lot. lol :)
BTW He will get one for lot surely...

My hunt for first SME IPO continues, even in 2022......

@Avenue,
hahaha, yes.. first time😂 (looking forward my luck)

Good luck to you get your first one, which is super hit SME

@Noorul,
on your message 59.38
yes for sure. (also, some of us made many comfortable in applying SME''s recently)

Thanks

Superman found his match in Kryptonite.

@MRavi found his match in ''Vivo Collaboration'' :D
You will now feel how we normal mortals feel when we put in our PAN on the IPO Allotment page or we get the Debit SMS / Email :D:D

Best of luck to all applicants including MRavi (for the first time ;) )

@Noorul

I would suggest you open a 3-in-1 account with HDFC Bank ... you may trf funds seamlessly between the 2 banks and apply till 2.59 PM for IPOs in HNI category.

1) It seems almost all HNI investors (including me) in this forum have shifted from Main Board IPO to this SME IPO because of weak subscriptions of CMS today.
2) HNI: Two Applications submitted with 61 lots and 14 lots. Could not merge into single because of limitation in Fund Transfer. Further, Supriya fund has not yet come back.
3) Retail: NIL.
4) All including M RAVI would try their luck in the lottery. Of course, M RAVI has got higher probability of getting one lot.

OMG.. First time ever @mravi application will go under lottery.. Market gave so many surprises this year.. that''s why we always say. Market is unpredictable. Market is a Boss.. Take a bow..

@M.K,
''Superman found his match in Kryptonite''. 😂hahaha good one.

@Devbull,
Thanks and wish you good luck also

@noorul,
yes, we don''t normally expect 2.86 C is not good enough to get one lot (since its SME, lot size is higher than mainboard also another reason). Happy to be with all of you and thrilled to see the allotment messages from our friends including mine

Thanks

It Seems all have left CMS & have come here for VIVO . Sab iske piche pad gaye hai. Heard GMP of 32000 subject to.

Breaking all previous records. Perhaps will take years to break sme ipo record.

ITs not so as its issue size is very small i.e 4.4 crore only & whereas nupur issue size was 34 crore.

Mile to Sahi Ek baar Bhi..

@amit: its not about size also. There were many sme ipos of such small size but no one even crossed 50 times, this is first time its crossing direct 200 times even in sme.

Yes that is True. Agreed on That. Like that its super duper upper hit. Crossed all the limits.

Vivo management are the happiest now, they might have not even expected these subscription numbers in their dreams ….

@lokes

All it takes is one fire in the MELA for the crowd to disperse and never come back again :D

Last record was 278 time by jhahndewala foods but it has 16 cr ipo so manzil abhi bahot durr hai bhai

My guess would be to try a faster Internet - may be a broker counter with a leased line.
Only guess though...

what is broker counter with leased line?

have u bought any stock in upper circuit?

i tried today to buy few stocks in uc , placed amo also no use ,all got cancelled at day end.

Leased line is a fast internet line, where response in counted in neno seconds. I know a few trading house which have a high speed connection and allow day tarders to sit and trade at their terminals. I am not an expert and have never done it but since you mentioned seconds i shared this info.

how many lots this time anant?

My family has applied 1590 lots but we will only get 5 lots.

@anantag...Just some fun maths and for my knowledge...Keeping INR 20 Cr at 7% annual interest rate for 10 days (thats the time frame from application to listing and getting money back in account), you would have made INR 4 L from your bank...You think this IPO will yield more than that?

See 20crs are in my saving account. Its just blocked right now. its not debited so i will be still getting the bank saving rate for my money.

In total i will get a debit of only 6-7lakhs. Which mean i will only loose saving interest on money which will be debited from my account which is 6-7l. So i am not loosing anything.

Now if the price of vivo opens at 160 then i will make a profit of 6l. which will be 15% on my money plus bank saving rate of 7% so total it will be 22%.

CMS ka sara paisa dump kiya he sab ne....

sara paisa dump karne ke liye bi sab retailers ko 131200 rs apply karna padega.

lagne ka chance to bhul hi janeka.

PLs. See Total Amount doesn,t exceeds 1000 cr. till now.

Now cross 1200 cr.

My guess is retail 50+ , hni 60+