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38. Kashif Qureshi |   Link |  Bookmark | June 11, 2007 9:32:38 PM
Hi Investers,
since 3 yrs , I m invstin' in prmry N secondry market.
i hv quite exprnc abt IPO's.....so my recommdtn to go for DLF.......avoid vishal becz thr no surity to gettn' shars but DLF.
Invst for sure not to unsecure......!!
go for DLF only.
37. RAHUL |   Link |  Bookmark | June 11, 2007 8:50:26 PM
Dont go for DLF, instead can go for VISHAL,
Reasons are as follows:

1) DLF is accumulating, 9000 Cr. from IPO & has a loan credit of 9500Cr.

2) its a long term investment, lots of projects are in intial phase, waiting to get amount get inaugrated. real estate take time to complete its project, then advertisement for selling same, & then returns, so a long wait.

3) Currently, real state market is down bcos of high interest rate. Moreover, competition is already there , DLF is not alone in the markets, too good offers are there by parsvanath, shobha Dev & many more.

4) Check current issue price of same type of company, except 1-2 companies, all are less than 500 mark.

So chances for short term gain are very less, will surely get big returns atleast after 1 year.
So decide 1st.

Vishal is in reach of every body & providing a basic & essential products, & is in daily business, where as, DLF is providing a product, which is being purchased by anyone once in a whole life.

So, VISHAL is in grip & market all the time as compared to DLF.

think & apply.

If I am wrong , please correct me.


36. Vora Milav |   Link |  Bookmark | June 11, 2007 6:44:14 PM
Hi All,
i think DLF have large no. of Equity so have confirm allotement but have a less return as compare to Vishal Retail and Roman so it's depend upon u...
what u want .... u want small but conform return then go for DLF but u want not sure and large return ( Play on u r luck ) then go for other 2 IPO....

RETURN

Conform means Share Allotement is Conform
Not Conform means share may be Alloted to perticuler Bidder or may not be....

so DLF 4000 ( Conform )
Vishal Retail 10000 ( Not Conform )
ROMAN 8000 ( Not Conform )..


so now u can decide where u want to go...
35. Ankit |   Link |  Bookmark | June 11, 2007 6:09:43 PM
Vishal Retail Ipo will give better returns post listing than DLF.

http://www.moneycontrol.com/india/news/ipo-issues-open/vishal-retail-to-deliver-better-returnslisting-than-dlf/285905
34. shripal |   Link |  Bookmark | June 11, 2007 5:59:43 PM
260 to 270 rs. premium.................
33. Mayank |   Link |  Bookmark | June 11, 2007 5:44:27 PM
Please tell me the grey market premium of Vishal Retail & Roman Tormat IPO"s .Thanx
32. sidharth |   Link |  Bookmark | June 11, 2007 4:22:32 PM
hi all , i have spoken with experts from anand rathi & anagram. the target for Vishal IPO is around rs 565 to rs 580 on day of listing with a one month target of rs 780 to rs 800 after listing. It is a good buy . Brokers are pumping money
31. munshi |   Link |  Bookmark | June 11, 2007 1:20:19 PM
apply apply apply. strongly apply. premium rs. 125-150. avoid dlf & others.
30. Rahul |   Link |  Bookmark | June 11, 2007 12:07:25 PM
Hi Los Angel,
Go for Vishal instead of DLF.
Apply on 13th.
29. loss angels |   Link |  Bookmark | June 11, 2007 11:23:24 AM
thank u very much madhu for your information ..can u please tell me what might be the premium for the same???
28. loss angels |   Link |  Bookmark | June 11, 2007 10:33:37 AM
yaar koi muze batao.. ki mai kaha invest karu..dlf mai yaa vishal mai...which will be more beneficial ,i want to sell my all the alloted shares on the listing day itself..
27. anmol |   Link |  Bookmark | June 10, 2007 8:43:39 PM
Benetton Coleman and Company Ltd (BCCL) and Munjal's of 'HERO' group are investors in this company. Such high profile investors should be encouraging. We can be rest assured that Vishal will get good coverage in Times of India and Economic Times( both these newspapers are owned by BCCL group
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26. rituvarma |   Link |  Bookmark | June 10, 2007 3:57:06 PM
Business Daily from THE HINDU group of publications.

An investment can be considered in the Initial Public Offer of Vishal Retail with a medium-term perspective. Vishal Retail operates 50 hypermarkets (large stores that offer a wide variety of goods ranging from apparel to household goods) predominantly in North India under the name of "Vishal Megamart". The retail chain targets lower-middle and middle- income groups in the Tier-II and Tier-III cities. The offer proceeds will help fund the addition of 32 stores in cities such as Ajmer, Bareilly, Bhopal, Faridabad and Sholapur, to name a few. About 22 of them are slated to open in FY-08.

This value retailer has a revenue base of Rs 600 crore and recorded profits of Rs 25 crore in FY-07. A significant amount of its growth has been attained in the last two years on the back of new store openings.

Valuation
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At the upper end of the price band, the offer price values the company at about 16 times its likely FY-08 per share earnings. The company does not really have a comparable player in the listed space; it might not be appropriate to compare its valuations with more premium players such as Pantaloon Retail, which is seen as a front-runner of the retail industry and operates a mix of formats. The valuation might, however, be justified considering the strong growth potential for organised retail in Tier-II and Tier-III cities; the market in such cities is projected to grow at 50-60 per cent a year, compared with 35-40 per cent in large cities. The offer presents another alternative for investors to play the retail story at a time when its competitors, mostly focussed on the top 10 cities, are dealing with stiff competition and margin pressures. Over a one-year period, assuming the company opens its proposed 22 stores on time, the fundamental picture looks positive.

However, investors can consider taking profits in the event of strong gains upon listing. Several retailers with more financial resources are increasingly targeting small towns, having sensed the opportunities in these cities. Small towns might well be the main focus of the Bharti Retail, given that its partner Wal-Mart pioneered the small-town retail format. As these players are well-placed to achieve higher sourcing efficiencies, they are likely to deliver higher quality and branded products to these markets at more competitive prices. Second, we expect more quality players — Subhiksha being one in the near future — to tap the market over the next year to 18 months. Such offers might make for more compelling investment options for those with a long-term perspective.

Small town, big opportunity
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In the medium term, however, Vishal stands to benefit from its focus on small towns, where real estate is cheaper as are staff costs. The low brand penetration in small towns makes it possible for retailers to sell more of their private labels. A large proportion of unbranded products and private labels and a high share of apparels in its sales mix explains its superior gross margin of 42 per cent as against Pantaloon Retail's 35 per cent. In the last fiscal, Vishal managed to add 27 stores, which suggests that it is capable of executing its projects on time. Revenue growth is, therefore, likely to be strong in the medium term and would drive profit growth.

Concerns
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However, investors would have to watch out for trends in operational parameters such as sales per square feet, footfall conversion rate and same store sales growth, where its performance has been patchy in the last couple of years. The company's same store sales growth slowed down to 11 per cent in FY-07. While footfalls (number of customers who visit the store) have risen, the conversion rate has dropped. If this trend sustains, it means that revenue growth will depend more upon its store additions and therefore, its execution capabilities, rather than the strength of its own operations.

Given the nascent stage of its operations, it might also take a while for scale efficiencies to kick in.

Offer details:
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Vishal Retail is promoted by Mr Ram Chandra Agarwal. The offer will raise Rs 110 crore from the public. The price band is at Rs 230-270 and the lead manager is Enam Financial Consultants.
25. RITUVARMA |   Link |  Bookmark | June 10, 2007 3:49:46 PM
capital market ranking for vishal & roman tramet not yet avilable. mostly will be available by tomorrow
24. RITUVARMA |   Link |  Bookmark | June 10, 2007 3:47:53 PM
Dear investors here are the gray market premiums
source smartinvestment
meghamani - 7.50 to 8
DLF - 30 to 32
Time Techno - 108 to 110
Nelcast - 16 to 18
Roman Tarmat - 11 to 12
Vishal Retail - 110 to 120
Glory Poly Films - Discount
Decolite Ceramics - 1.5 to 2
SO APPLY FOR VISHAL...........AVOID FOR ROMAN TRAMET & DLF

HAPPY INVSTING..............
23. vv |   Link |  Bookmark | June 10, 2007 3:18:37 PM
I could not find any such site...
22. ramsa |   Link |  Bookmark | June 10, 2007 8:28:40 AM
Dear DJ. you can visit on www.investerinsure.com for gray market premium of ipo's.vishal is a good bat. one can go for DLF's small lot.happy investing.
21. Hemant |   Link |  Bookmark | June 10, 2007 12:37:18 AM
I m pasting My friends Analysis abt this..

In my opinion Vishal Retail IPO is better than DLF. EPS of Vishal for FY 07 was 13.6. This gives a PE of around 20 at higher band where as other peers like Pantaloon (55x) Provogue (46x) Trent (43x) Shoppers Stop (80x) are quoting at quite high PE even if we take PE at their 52 week low that comes to Pantaloon (46x) Provogue (21x) Shoppers Stop (50x) even average of this low PE come to around 39 which is very good and fair price comes to 500-530 just double than IPO price.
Market Cap to Sale for Pantaloon is 3.5x, Provogue is 5.4x, Trent is 4.0x and for Shopppers Stop is 2.68. If we compare this and average that comes to 3.9 and market cap for Vishal comes to 3000 Crores which gives a price of around 1000 on post issue equity of 30.84 crores.
I guess It will be on fire on listing.

ONE MUST APPLY FOR THIS.
ONLY THREE DAYS 11, 12, AND 13 JUNE.

ONE MUST APPLY

VERY VERY GOOD ISSUE
20. Hemant |   Link |  Bookmark | June 10, 2007 12:00:31 AM
AnyBody Knows Capital Market Rating for this IPO? Please share.. Thanks
19. imwadhera |   Link |  Bookmark | June 9, 2007 10:04:44 PM
hi ramsa
which gujrati site shows grey market premium plz name clear site
thanx