One should avoid new IPO coming up and only apply selected best ones. I never like swaraj and hence avoid it . The listing is too bad though and hope people learn lesson and not apply in anything and everything.
sir apne to EKI ENERGY Ke bare me bhi yahi kaha tha. which is now 8000 to 10000. . i just remind your words.{Mark my words this company will run away after looting public money.} if any confusion pl. check eki message trail.
Lagta hai aapko swaraj ke loss ka jhatka laga hai. Now check my message on shigan,euro,sp refractories and many others. With 95% accuracy is not bad. Remeber during EKI market was not in good mood.
sir market me profit or loss to laga hi hota hai. jo bhi market me ayge use dono hi face karna padega. 95 % accuracy is your own perception. and baki rahi 5% ki baat . yadi log aapke EKI ke message ko seriously nahi lete to shayad aaj wo crorpati hote. .
140.4. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
March 28, 2022 12:11:53 PM
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@IPOANALYSIS : its ok, don't be harsh......anyone can be wrong in markets... Not just eki, in BEW page also, you can see your messages and that is around 14 times now. Even in coolcaps recently you mentioned to avoid saying bad financials and debt etc and that is now at 41.45 and tomorrow will be 43.5 around which is good profit in one lot and same way ekennis also still performing good. so there are many examples in both sides. So lets keep giving our analysis and let market/people decide about how many are going fine or not, no point in arguing these things. And leave 95%, be practical, if someone is being correct even around 60-70% in markets then that is considered very good.
Lokesh ,how can you say I was wrong i cool caps it was easily available much below issue price on listing day. Do not lie on bew as I have no comments on it. What about your listing price of Swaraj as 65. Lol. Just stop giving useless remarks and what about u saying to keep stoploss in coolcaps infact u have proven wro g again. This clearly shows u r not able to digest loss of Swaraj and showing ur irritation . Why did u give ur wrong commets to subscribe swaraj ,coolcaps and sp refractories and I asked to avoid all 3 and was 100 pc correct. Now check my msg o. shigan which is hitting continuous upper circuit and gain in Euro , sigma, clara .why were u sitting idle on my correct prediction. Looks like u r suffering huge loss in. swaraj. Lol
Lokes i know u suffering huge loss Who made u Guru. Now see ur message on KNi agri listing at 200 .u even bought at 146 and will suffer huge loss now. Even I. swaraj u asked to apply with listing price at 65 and it is at 53 now . U suffering loss. In SP refractories u said listing will be 100 it is available at 83 now . My message in Shigan to apply and will gain post listing it is hitting upper circuits Now please Stop giving ur wrong suggestion please .i know u r suffering huge loss but don't let other suffer losses because of u. Atleast noone suffer losses because of me
140.7. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
March 28, 2022 4:34:36 PM
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@ipoanalysis: you are showing your standards again the way you are talking. I am having 2 lots in swaraj and you can calculate how much loss i am having. In coolcaps, you told to avoid that (https://www.chittorgarh.com/ipo/ipo_discussions.asp?a=1224&c=498446&ap=0) so how does it matter if it was available at lower price after listing, as per you, it shouldn't be bought and as i informed to buy below 40 in my message, so whoever bought are in profits and whoever holding from ipo, those also. And i didn't said to apply in sp refractories (https://www.chittorgarh.com/ipo/ipo_discussions.asp?a=1225&c=498183&ap=0), check all mine and yours message before writing all these junks. Ekennis also you kept telling it will go down etc etc to dinesh. And i am also holding shigan so i also know that is good. And regarding BEW, seems you are having some memory loss, so you can check your comments (3rd comment) here again: https://www.chittorgarh.com/ipo/bew-engineering-ipo/1146/
And i already informed anyone can be wrong and right in markets, what matters more is how many times we were right and how much we are improving/learning, i accept you were right in some cases and wrong also in many cases. And i accept i was wrong in listing estimates in kn agri and swaraj both. But i request you to be little more humble and polite while writing in general. Everyone is seeing messages anyways on chittorgarh so let them decide and take decision about our views, instead of coming back like this.
@ipoanalysis you are really a frustrated person. pl. check any ipo trail meessage you always speak negative about any ipo . believe me no body takes you seriously. if anybody need any suggestion they look advice from lokes only. bcause everybody has brain and they know who can give them best advice. it was mr lokesh advice i bought jainam ferro 1 weeek after listing at rs.72 rand i earn more than 1.5 lac profit in the same . for your satisfaction you can check jainam ferro trail message.
pl. suggest what will be the listing price of PE ipo and Krishna defence.
Yes Dinesh even I know people like u who were fighting at the time of SP refractories and we all know the story. Anyway I don't want to fall to your level to point your mistakes as I could have replied with your wrong analysis and listing price
Lokes u started it .i never replied to your wrong ipo prediction which are much more .my recent recommendation have all been correct. It looks like you are in deep pain because of my not recommended one have gone in loss for u. The way u r giving old examples shows ur personality when u r being proven wrong in all 4 recent listings. Did i point it out ever but u started replying back on my message shows u r frustrated because of loss incurred in all your 4 listing .
@Lokes: Please ignore all these comments. You have been gem of the person and helping many people in this forum. Please continue to do great job. As you said, anyone can go right or wrong in market, its always about giving humble opinion and let everyone make their decisions based on their risk reward criteria.
@Lokes, I second @Suneel Padavala, @sundeep sharma - views on your assistance/guidance to many including me.
I respect your research and TRUE intentions when you are giving any recommendations or reviews, which is the the best in the Chittorgarh forum, to me.
No one can predict everything, what is the most important is spending quality time to respond to others and sharing knowledge. you are the best in this. Keep up the good work.
Lokesh u are wrong again..in Bew i said the sector is good and LM is not good. I never said a single thing about company and wish all the best to allotees. Check again. In Ekeniss i never said not to apply but just told it's not a long term stock. It's now at 92 vs listing price of 84 and not far away from listing price. Again Shigan i said is a multibagger, Europanel asked everyone to buy on listing . Same goes with Clara and many example. I asked everyone not to apply Swaraj, SP refractories, cool cap and they were all available below issue price on listing .so just bringing an old example of 1 year old shows your are in deep pain because of losses in all your predicted ones. I never want to hurt anyone but why you replied to my message on Swaraj which has disaster listing and everyone is able to see this . So stop searching others mistakes and be bold enough to check ur mistakes first. Anyone can view ur first message replied to point fingers at. I don't even understand and look at your recommendation ever. U are sending message to everyone that u have bought KN agri on listing day which is another disastrous decision . Atleast my recommendation is not giving anyone loss like Urs.
140.16. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
March 29, 2022 10:58:28 AM
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you have really gone insane and talking lie continuously. Which 4 listing i gone wrong. i already gave you link for sp refractories where i told not to apply and i applied only 2 retail applications there not in HNI and i gave 94 to 100 range not only 100. And coolcaps u can see the price, listing doesn't matter, expected price matters and actions to take later for buy/sell which it has reached already in 3 days. And i agree i gone wrong in swaraj and kn agri both, i am accepting that, anyways swaraj now LC opened and may soon come near issue price so it is a no loss to anyone and even listing was also near 56. And in BEW, you are mentioning other later comment even i already mentioned comment no. 3 means you are still ignoring that and not accepting your failures and giving all excuses for everything, at least i accepted mine failure in kn agri/swaraj, you can read your comment. no. 3 in BEW (biggest fool in the whole world, see the language used, same language in multiple messages in EKI). And since you were coming back always to comment when your saying goes fine and never come back when they are wrong so i replied initially here and talking like you never gone wrong. Anyways i am sorry that i started arguing you and lowering my standards. No more messages to you. Keep advising anyways. Lets close this. Again i am requesting you that don't write anything without thinking, i don't even know who is sandeep sharma, and you have written new message and talk properly instead of "who made you guru" etc, i also could have said that but not.
Lokes u r absolutely wrong . Sandeep Sharma picked up my old last year comment on my just saying that one should not apply in all IPO blindly. Instead of his mistake you started pointing on me which suggest either it was ur fake account or you try to be in jhund just to show urself superior . Anyway anyone can see your comments on Sandeep Sharma reply. Show me where I said Bew is bad company when I comment just on LM. Infact my next message says sector is very good just LM is not . Please check properly before ur comments . Why don't u pick my absolute all correct prediction on Shigan,Europanel,sp refractories listing price,coolcaps,swaraj. So what if cool caps have come above issue price the listing day it was easily available below issue price . The fact still remains sprefrcatories, coolcaps and swaraj had lacklustre listing and do remember many people also sell on list'ng ng day so it caused loss to many as well. So instead of just looking at other mistakes first check urself what mistakes u have made. Now KN agri is also at loss with so many sellers. sp refractories u clearly replied that it will list at 100 when I mention flat listing . Anyone can see that thread. if I would have fallen to your standard I would have shown my victory and shown u down. Did i do that .that's the difference between u am me
140.18. snipperRaj| Link| Bookmark|
March 30, 2022 6:39:11 AM
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@IPOANALYSIS, you seems to be IPO guru and give reviews about IPO ( mostly seen negative one) and critic about others reviews and challenge them. I have not seen you talking about your SME trades you invested. I would like to request you to show some guts and openly tell your buying trades for SME IPOs you applied/invested before the IPO 3rd day. Also, i have not seen any positive review about any IPO other than shigan in 2021-2022. which SMEs you invested recently in 2022 . Lokes is courageous and polite, humble expert who openly tell his investments , his buy/sell order and his failed trade/review also seen visibly open to other. Always ready to help people out with efforts. i duely respect him and so mostly people out here also. Other respected experts like mravi sir, noorul, avenue and others, openly share and discuss their applied lots and sme investments. But i have not seen from IPOANALYSIS about their applied IPO lots and entry. So i would request show some positive messages also and openly tell good reviews/trade also instead of only negative one seen mostly and critical about others. This can also help your expertise guidance to others and would also people gain more trust and follow you in your reviews....
No one is begging for respect of others. It is the platform to share views.....and every one is free to share their views the way they like. Accept or reject views is personal choice which each one us is free to exercise.
The people here show there application size etc not to do charity but build a perception around stock. Oh....I am putting so much money so you should also do that. That is the indirect messaging for which people put their application size and strategy here, otherwise they would have already formed a private group of RESPECTED members and continue to serve their interest privately and securely.
I genuinely respect some of the members of the forum for helping others but anyone dictating others that you do this and you do that is not something which is good for public form like ours. Most of early senior members have already left the forum or decided to stay silent because of this kind of incessant smaller group forming and continuous trolling of alternative opinions. Happy investing.
Sniper u are highly mistaken. I have given positive reviews on Shigan and EuroPanel. Infact these 2 i am heavily invested in What does it mean give your open trades and quantities. Is this a trading platform. In recent ones I am holding Shigan,Clara and Europanel . Look like my comments which were correct in Swaraj,sprefrcatories where people like Lokes were frustrated to not digest their wrong prediction. And loss. I rest my case.
140.21. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
March 30, 2022 10:47:49 AM
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let me post your message on swaraj listing here below to remind you, so if i was wrong, you were also wrong in listing. Now don't keep telling lies and don't keep giving excuses to prove your things right and other's view wrong. And to inform you, I already sold my swaraj today at 58 rs in profit since you were interested to know my loss in swaraj, also booked profit in coolcaps.
82. IPOANALYSIS Like It. |Report Abuse| Link |Mar 24, 2022 10:53:25 AM IPO Guru IPO Guru (2100+ Posts, 1600+ Likes) Listing expected between 60-62. I did not apply as put money in KNagri.
And below are my messages on sp refractories where i informed not applying and then later just applied 2 retail applications and not allotted and i just gave my listing estimates, didn't told anyone to buy. And listing estimates i gave 94 to 100 and it listed at 90.2 so if i was too much wrong there then you are also too much wrong in swaraj since it listed at 56. Happy now with proofs. Stop telling your lies now about me. I am not frustrated, i am still booking profits except kn agri , you got frustrated since others informed about earlier sme's tooooo much wrong predictions. Profit missed is also a loss there.
61. lokesI Like It. 2|Report Abuse| Link |Mar 22, 2022 12:00:45 AM IPO Guru IPO Guru (2500+ Posts, 2400+ Likes) In my opinion it may list around 94-100....good luck for all allottees....
33. lokesI Like It. 3|Report Abuse| Link |Mar 11, 2022 10:23:33 AM IPO Guru IPO Guru (2500+ Posts, 2400+ Likes) i am not thinking to apply here, not comfortable at its pricing and other reason is i will apply for other cool caps ipo during same time so money can't divide.
And below is your message on BEW which you are not able to see and not accepting and you were just talking about your other posts on bew forum in your above messages. Now your frustration will come out i know again.
3. IPOANALYSIS | Link |Aug 26, 2021 5:33:50 PM IPO Guru IPO Guru (2100+ Posts, 1600+ Likes) Does anyone know first overseas has a unique distinction of having 25 out of 27 issues ruling much below issue price . This should go in guiness book of world records. For me First overseas should never be allowed to give another chance . If anyone is applying in its issue then he is the biggest fool in the whole world
140.22. snipperRaj| Link| Bookmark|
March 30, 2022 10:51:48 AM
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@IPOANA.. I didnt ask you to share your trading orders... just requested you to share tips..if you are applying for this IPO and lots you applying etc...so that people can be influenced by ipo you like and getting invested into...just like the way people can be influenced by negative msg....Anyway its upto you to post or share whatever you like..we all are free to do so...cheers...
140.23. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
March 30, 2022 11:25:28 AM
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@ipo-mitr: On one side you are informing: "and every one is free to share their views the way they like. Accept or reject views is personal choice which each one us is free to exercise." And on other side, you are informing: "otherwise they would have already formed a private group of RESPECTED members and continue to serve their interest privately and securely." Both are contradicting, if you/others are free to share your all these general views, regular lectures, lessons etc (mostly after ipo subscription is closed) then others also should be free to share their application size etc. or anything. Both kind of views/opinions can be influencing, right, so yes let everyone share their views. Neither you nor others can force anyone to do what we are saying.
BTW, sharing general views, regular lectures, lessons etc (mostly after ipo subscription is closed) is my choice who are you to comment on it....
Did I say anything about any of your comment taking your names specifically? Which some of people here are doing it......Stop attacking others to show you are the boss.....
I am forced to use this language because of your attack specifically directed towards me. Before advising others to be polite etc....please look at your own language and ego.
>>On one side you are informing: "and every one is free to share their views the >>way they like. Accept or reject views is personal choice which each one us is >>free to exercise." >>And on other side, you are informing: "otherwise they would have already >>formed a private group of RESPECTED members and continue to serve their >>interest privately and securely."
Where is the contradiction......and where did I say that one cannot or should not share the application size etc........It is your choice....it is your money.....where is the problem.....why is all this ego...........why is all this hurt..........
140.27. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
March 30, 2022 3:32:14 PM
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@ipo-mitr: i didn't said your message was for me, like the way you generally replying, i am generally replying to you....no ego no hurt at all. and why form private group to post such things , why not post here freely like you are posting, so there is contradiction. And dont take anything on you, i am generally replying. Like its you choice of comment, same way i am commenting, don't think you can only give these free advices always and other shouldn't. Like you are posting , let others also post. Again i am saying, no ego, no hurt, just general talks with you, don't think otherwise.
>>and why form private group to post such things , why not post here freely like >>you are posting, so there is contradiction. >>And dont take anything on you, i am generally replying. Like its you choice of >>comment, same way i am commenting, don't think you can only give these >>free advices always and other shouldn't. Like you are posting , let others also >>post. >>Again i am saying, no ego, no hurt, just general talks with you, don't think >>otherwise.
Problems seems that you will never be able to see the messaging of your group of people but always pindown any alternative opinion raised by other people.
Ok so my advice is FREE free. Oh my goodness are you charge people for giving opinion on Chittorgarh forum. Please let us know how much you charge....I may bring come additional clients for you.
I never said..people should form a private group ........Some one said that people on the forum should disclose their trades in SME IPO beforehand to be called RESPECTED or be APPRECIATED. Somehow I disagree with that thought process and my post was for that comment (NOT THE PERSON) but as the GOD of forum you jumped in without seeing the earlier posts of the people of yourown group.
Once again.....attack the opinion/perspective NO PROBLEM AT ALL but attacking people for their OPINION/PERSPECTIVE will never be accepted. Let CHHITTORGARH decide if I am wrong.
140.29. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
March 30, 2022 4:54:12 PM
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Who is my group of people? if we are discussing then doesn't mean i have to always agree with their thinking, there are many such instances before where i can give example. I have my own independent thinking for everything. Everyone is same for me here, no groupism. Neither i have any issues with you, so don't overthink, there is no attack etc from my side atleast...i already said i was generally talking to you, no ego no hurt. we can have same views for some ipos and may not have for others, its fine, its same with everyone, nothing personal with you or anyone.
Ipomitr no point arguing with Loke. His recommendation are peace of garbage. Beter ignore his useless comments. His work is to let other down on their message but kehta hai na jinke Ghar khud seeshe ke hote hai woh dossro ke ghar pathar nahi marte. Same goes with him. If u say anything wrong about not investing in stocks which he has invested and suffering loss he will try to let u down. Utter nonsense .
140.31. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
April 5, 2022 12:30:17 PM
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khud bas help karo mat and sab mai avoid avoid bolo, how many listing estimates you are posting, and how many views in ipos you are posting? many you were posting even after subscription closed which are no use like in eurobond which song u keep singing. And if someone else is suggesting people for most of the ipos then keep attacking...wah...other than swaraj, everything else is performing good from all recent ipos. And in swaraj also, people got enough chance to exit as i informed them. And my profits are much more than my losses, you are one of most frustrated people who gets happy in others loss and sad in others profit. One of the biggest lier too. Khudka ghar bhi dekh le pehle, seeshe ke ghar wale.
Lokes jis tarah ke share mein tu invest karta hai jald hi sheeshe wala Ghar bhi tera nahi bachega. Eurobond toh maine buy karne ke liye bola tha after closed and it continued going upward. Tumne toh logo ko precision jaisa share kharidwa Diya aur log ab tak loss mein hai. Kam se kam hum logon ka nuksaan toh nahi karate. U r useless and most frustrated fellow who invest in each and every share without any analysis and thoughts. Mindless investor who has no sense .
140.33. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
April 5, 2022 1:28:02 PM
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Tumne toh logo ko precision jaisa share kharidwa Diya aur log ab tak loss mein hai -> check messages before posting these lies and non sense always.....precision was listed at 75 and then it was above 51 for long time and many got out, its my own personal opinion if i want to hold or sell, i didn't said anyone to buy, i keep saying people to take decision as per their risk and many came out from this above issue price. The thing is you just want to keep telling non sense lie without knowing/checking anything.
And when you keep saying avoid to most ipos and if they give profits, so what is that, profit missed is a loss na.....else like you anyone can tell only the best ones. Overall how much profit and how much loss that matters, that you can keep counting if you have time from my earlier messages in all forums. And i know who is mindless investor and who is most frustrated fellow here. you know how many are saying about you and how many about me, because everyone knows us.
139.1. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
March 30, 2022 12:29:16 AM
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precision is really not showing any improvement and continuously going down, i didn't had stoploss here since i was convinced somehow but that was mistake to not having stoploss and let it keep going down. i heard it was having some pending orders till future some years also and it posted good numbers in FY 20-21 and in half year 2021-22 also. I am thinking to sell it on 30th/31th march to book loss here for tax saving purpose in this financial year to offset with other profits.....later i may buy it again after doing some research or after results or after some trend change. It was having very less subscriptions in HNI and promoter holding after ipo is also less so these factors might be weighing on this and there is no much demand/buyers for it from last 1 month...dilip sir had may apply review here for long term view.
@lokes, The fund won't come to the account in this FY, if we sell on 31st. Can still be considered for taxing on current FY?
139.5. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
March 30, 2022 3:59:29 PM
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yes as per sell date , it will be considered in taxation so till 31st year, it will be considered in current FY only. Funds coming next year, or shares getting debited from demat later, etc won't matter.
I remember going through Precision RHP and decided to skip after seeing negative cash flow in recent fiscals But like lokes mentioned there have been recent SME IPOs with good financials but flat listings. Can be due to cooked up books or operator activity Do your due diligence, go for companies with reliable promoters/lead manager and try to hold for a few quarters
139.8. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
April 5, 2022 12:17:40 AM
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Since precision was showing some improvement on 30th and 31st so i didn't sell it and it moved good on 1st april too but today again went down a lot.... still moving strangely....tough to decide to sell/hold now.... lets wait till results at least to get some idea.....
me too stuck in precision & SS...are you guys still holding or planning exit???
139.11. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
April 6, 2022 5:13:36 PM
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@sahil: Till now dates are not declared, it may come in april end or upto mid May month. Results dates will be announced here in corporate information. https://www.nseindia.com/get-quotes/equity?symbol=PRECISION @vinny: you have sold krishna defence today at 75 so i think its better to sell all on listing if we can't take risk, krishna moved to upper circuit later. So some shares goes down and some goes up after listing and its difficult to predict further movement exactly in sme which are initially more controlled by operators so either hold all or sell all on listing so if some goes down and some goes up then we don't get stuck on the wrong side.
@lokes...I understand the risks with SMEs and play accordingly but dont think that we can have a standard rule of "hold all" or "sell all" on listing...my opinion is that it has to be based on how good/bad listing is. I thought of holding Precision and SS as I felt that I will get opportunity to exit at profit as both the companies have good potential but they are not moving as expected and I have 5 lots in total. Holding prevest as I always believed in the strong fundamentals. I booked profit in Krishna as the listing was fantastic and gave good returns....so their is no theory of "sell all on listing if we can't take risk" with me. I was just asking a general opinion from the group on Precision and SS...so that it helps me decide on how long to hold.
139.13. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
April 6, 2022 7:28:59 PM
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@vinny: yes if we have some insight about companies/fundamentals then its ok to act accordingly. i was just saying that hold all or sell all, in case where we are not sure and don't want to take further risks, to avoid stucking in not performing ones and getting out early from performing ones. And precision anyways broke LC below 50 then moved to UC for 2 days around 53-54 levels max then again downtrend started in that so that time it gave chance to exit. And SS i hope u mean swaraj suiting not safa systems, both of these anyways gave change to exit, swaraj around 56-58 and safa around 12-13 before moving down again to current levels. And regarding opinion, at least i am still holding both precision and swaraj 1-1 lot each and will keep holding until results or issue price to come. I think atleast one of these will perform good in some months in my opinion, rest lets see. I know many are holding these both and waiting to perform.
As mentioned earlier, Dj Media will reach 50-60 level either before Bonus or after. It is now at 53.1 today. Let us see where the bottom is.
As touted by many big hands on the forum, did the Bonus finally matter? I don't think so. Bonus also could not lift the stock on the other hand so far it seems that after bonus....stock has resumed further downtrend.
Stock will have many more events coming up and ........holders still have the option to continue touting those events for reversal of fortune of DJ Media stock.
In my view no event will save DJ Media other than excellent business performance reflected in next results...........Happy Investing
Very disappointing market price. No body might have imagined this much worst price. Experts may please enlighten whether this is worth holding for a couple of months. Guidance will be wholeheartedly very much appreciated. Thank you.
KSRK ji, now on immediate basis, we cannot do anything until unless some buyers comes onboard, looking at the current selling pressure, there may be few more LCs and let us hope once the LCs saga over and also market turns out to be positive then it will move further (Also remember: Text tile sector stocks appreciation is not that great so far, slow performers, hence keep expectations lower), little waiting will definitely give a good exit chances may be with little premium or at least at par. Hence, don't book loss too fast. By the way, I also got one lot and will wait until getting some premium on issue price for the efforts (at least 5-10%)...
Also my sincere advise to you (kindly don't take it negatively), being a Retired Senior citizen, apply highly selective SMEs and not all SME IPOs even like this Swaraj suiting's kind low PE good number issues also. In Main board IPOs, it is just ignoring bad from Good one. But in SMEs, it is selecting very few Good from almost all Bad pool with overly window dressing. in this context you can even skip PE (F&O issue: QIB also fake, no QIB in the world will support this kind of speculation company) and Krishna (Defence is only in the Name actually not), but these both SMEs I applied, which you can comfortably stay away.
Please apply only few sure shot winners, like KN Agri, Pervest Denpro, previously some Pharma manufacturing companies / Pharma associated companies - Engg. etc. (again Not pharma trading companies), it is easy to identify these winners by regularly following the Chittorgarh and own analysis, it is also fact that over subscriptions and very less chances of allotment form these good once, but that's Okay... just keep trying with highly selective once. Once luck favours, you get your part, for me it was Ice make SME IPO somewhere between 2015-2018.
@ ksrk sir I agree with Retail ipo Aap jo jyada oversubscribed he wohi apply kijiye once u get good obe sme Than may you can take risk of average sme from the profit u make in good sme like vivo ( 4 lakhs) kn agri( 130000) etc
@KSRK ji, Yes, poor listing. CPY is not that bad to be LC. it will bounce back, in my opinion. SME's are mostly operator driven (which one will go up and when - they decide mostly), no one can predict accurately or consistently.
@KRSK SIR don't average in such type of operator base sme I wish u get krishna or pe analytics to cover loss in swaraj
137.5. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
March 28, 2022 4:44:18 PM
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KSRK sir: as others informed, in sme's some times these kind of situation comes in average ipo's where even subscription is good and company is good but still they don't perform well after listing. There are many previous example also like safa systems which listed around 17 and then now below 9 rs (issue price was 10), precision metallics was listed around 75 and now around 40rs (issue price was 51rs) , maruti interiors listed around 68 and now at 58 after initially hitting some upper circuits. So since you were first time in sme's and no other profits from here, so instead of taking risk, in such cases like today, then its better to sell in preopen always....atleast it would have gone at same price and there wouldn't be loss. so if listing is not happening as expected, then better sell during preopen around 9.43 after watching preopen prices. Now we can't say when this LC will open and when it will go above issue price so still if you can take more risk then you can sell whenever LC opens or near issue price. Precision was trading around 52-53 (after LC's UC's ) and gave enough chance to exit, same way safa also was trading around 12 and gave chance to exit after LC opened.
I am deeply touched with the kind words of all of you. I am indebted to you all for your kind response/ advises/ guidance/ suggestions. As I mentioned, after a long gap, I got one allotment in SME IPO. But not an encouraging one. O K. I will wait for sometime to dispose. Once again, thank you very much for all your consideration and concern.
137.7. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
March 29, 2022 12:27:00 PM
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@KSRK sir and others : As i said above in my message: " you can sell whenever LC opens or near issue price." Now its near issue price already, so you can decide what to do as per your risk appetite. I am still holding both my lots and will keep holding for some weeks in short term and then will decide to book partial profit/loss whatever it will be. Anyways now today/tomorrow its already near issue price and may come above issue price also, so i can say no one is stuck in this and no loss to anyone ideally. And its just 1 day now, going ahead, we will come to know that my opinion about this ipo will come true or not in some days/weeks.
Lokes ji, Sold @ Rs.55.85 . No regrets. I have taken in to consideration, my risk appetite and hence disposed.
137.9. K.Atar| Link| Bookmark|
March 29, 2022 7:53:26 PM
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@Lokes Sir, As you know I have 1 lot of maruti interior, any idea what's happening to it.,what should be our future strategy. Pls shed some light. Thanks in advance..
137.10. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
March 30, 2022 12:13:39 AM
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K.Atar: i am also holding one lot of maruti interior and it is going down slowly slowly. i think to avoid much risk, people can have stoploss near to issue price of 56 around to avoid further loss, like in precision it is continuously going down still and even safa systems also. Maruti interior was having very good subscriptions in both HNI/retail and financials were also ok but share price not performing accordingly after hitting few UC's initially. Some names like kotyark/jainam performed so well later after non performance initially for some time and bombay metrics was also stable around 130-140 for some months before shooting upto 400 levels in last 1-2 months. So its not easy to guess sme's future performance, a lot depend on upcoming results (growth in revenue/profits) or any news for stock/sector specific. So all depends on risk/holding capacity of individuals, if can't take much risk or can't hold for longer then better have stoplosses. I am having ab cotspin and DMR also which are not performing from1-2 months but am just holding them with some stoplosses above issue prices. Maruti i still feel can do well in some months like above mentioned positive ones and hopefully will not go precision way.
137.11. K.Atar| Link| Bookmark|
March 30, 2022 11:42:44 AM
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Thanks Lokes Sir for the much needed guidance, i will hold maruti interior for few months more, also I am unable to find its financial result or any news regarding it that might help. Everything about company seems good - sector, promoters, financials, etc etc. but it's not performing as you Sir rightly pointed out. Hopefully it will in future that's all we can pray for. Thanks again Sir. 🙏
136. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
March 30, 2022 11:28:50 AM
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sold one lot of my swaraj at 58 today, still holding other lot.
135. MehulStk| Link| Bookmark|
March 29, 2022 12:07:37 PM
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In my demat buying average price showing 47RS money debited from bank at the price of 56Rs i contacted support team they telling me to contact registrar
Anybody faced such issue before? its showing profit in my portfolio but actually it still lower than actual buying price
135.1. MehulStk| Link| Bookmark|
March 29, 2022 1:22:33 PM
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@Lokes @Mravi Any Help regarding this will be much much appreciated
135.2. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
March 29, 2022 1:44:31 PM
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No idea how it can be possible. You inform your broker to change the price. Obviously they can check that the issue price for swaraj is 56 rs so its their system mistake and they should correct it. You can reply here which broker you are facing this issue to check with others having same broker to know if issue is with you only or everyone.
135.3. MehulStk| Link| Bookmark|
March 29, 2022 3:21:49 PM
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@Lokes Sir thanks for the reply, I am also very surprised with this I contacted the 5paisa team they respond with this.
"With reference to your raised concern, we would like to inform you that share Transfers from the Other Demat Account to 5Paisa Demat account will be considered while calculating the average price. The closing price on the day of Transfer will be taken as Buy Price.
Further, as checked the average price of Swaraj Suiting shares is updated correctly."
Not sure what to do now. seems like I have to pay extra tax on profit which I haven't actually earned.
In many demat account you can do external entry and we can edit only “average purchase Price cost” in ur demat account, ask them the procedure. I am also doing the same for newly ipo alloted price.
134. Earthking| Link| Bookmark|
March 30, 2022 7:56:40 AM
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Sorry wrong info about bulk deal...
133. Earthking| Link| Bookmark|
March 30, 2022 7:51:40 AM
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good movement today...holding for time being for an exit around 63-65. fingers crossed 🤞
131. Abhii VPG| Link| Bookmark|
March 30, 2022 12:34:40 AM
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Swaraj is having good fundamentals & company’s structure is strong, so almost negligible risk. Allottees can take Swaraj to a descent level, the game is all about patience now & not showing eagerness. All the best 👍🏻
I have 10 lots in my account. What to do now. Forgot to sell on listing day. Please advice.
130.1. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
March 29, 2022 11:52:55 PM
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tomorrow hopefully it will be above its issue price then you partially sell some lots and keep holding some for little longer.
129. Bhav| Link| Bookmark|
March 29, 2022 2:50:52 PM
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Bhaio dont panic, its all operator play, for good ipo they are doing like this, opened at very low price, like cool cpas, who sells at 11 rs when IPO alloted at 38.
They do this so retail investors get panic and sell at lower price as many are doing, now see cool caps above issue price in less than 1 week, calculate profit operators get by manipulating.
Swaraj also has good financials, even DD adviced for may apply. We have to be patient, dont be sentimental. There is no scope for emotions in stocks.
This is in general advice jo free hai, baki " suno sabki karo dil ki"
@lokes,@Mravi and other Experts what is your view about swaraj? hold or Exit at 55.85
128.1. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
March 29, 2022 1:42:43 PM
IPO Guru (4400+ Posts, 5100+ Likes)
Anyone can decide as per his own risk/holding capacity. I have given my opinion here: https://www.chittorgarh.com/ipo/ipo_discussions.asp?a=1227&c=500680&ap=0
127. Ravu| Link| Bookmark|
March 28, 2022 10:35:34 AM
IPO Mentor (700+ Posts, 400+ Likes)
There is no buyer. Can continues LC happen. I think most of buyers on todays trade are retailor. I think another LC on tomorrow then UC , and UC may continue for couple of days. Hope that it will reach at least 65 soon. I planned to hold for mid term
It is not easy as you think ... operator will def test ones patience ... if my guess is correct it will not cross 58 range for some time to come ... there is always diff for a positive listing and negative listing ... unless some good news operator will keep testing your patience ... see how many times it touches 55-57 range in near future ...
@lokes is we have to hold this one or not? Please reply,!
126.1. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
March 29, 2022 12:57:17 PM
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replied here....you can check. https://www.chittorgarh.com/ipo/ipo_discussions.asp?a=1227&c=500680&ap=0
125. Abhii VPG| Link| Bookmark|
March 29, 2022 11:51:35 AM
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We are the ones who always pushes any company to LCs by creating extra weight on the right side. Should not do this on the very first day as any good company might show handsome numbers anytime. Allottees must think and decide, as they are the DRIVERS.
124.1. Abhii VPG| Link| Bookmark|
March 29, 2022 10:57:44 AM
IPO Mentor (1000+ Posts, 300+ Likes)
We are the ones who always pushes any company to LCs by creating extra weight on the right side. Should not do this on the very first day as any good company might show handsome numbers anytime. Allottees must think and decide, they are the drivers. 😜
I request admin to look at message from Sandeep Sharma which is replying to my message in insane manner. Please check how Lokes is supporting this which shows he might be running the fake duplicate account Please block those who bully others. My message was just not to apply in all IPO and Swaraj bad listing buy they reacted in such way shows they have suffered losses and could not digest my correct prediction
123.1. bAAz| Link| Bookmark|
March 29, 2022 8:31:13 AM
IPO Mentor (700+ Posts, 400+ Likes)
No will be perfect in the market you both are superb in your prediction and helping nature @ipoanalysis @lokesh
I was in the middle of a trip and missed applying swaraj and kn agri, missing swaraj now seems like a blessing in disguise Being more selective with sme ipos is the way to go
IMHO, not every IPO (main board as well as SME) is worth applying When one decides to speculate, one should play on their own playground with own ball(s). Playing with some one else's ball and strategy on some one else's playground is the sure shot recipe for disaster. Till then, do not hesitate in sharing your views whatever those are. Each one of us are entitled to our views with no prejudice as well as malice. Keep sharing.