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PNB Housing Finance Ltd IPO Message Board (Page 65)

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0. Ipo tracker |   Link |  Bookmark | October 12, 2016 1:32:53 PM
Top Contributor Top Contributor (500+ Posts, 200+ Likes)
All discussions and debates are useless and hypothetical, unless price band is OFFICIALLY announced.
It happened in icici pru., discussions were going on the basis of 275 issue price, & what issue price turned out to be. Similiar fate is forseen in pnbhf.
Without price band .. compare with what? Rumours can also be a ploy by rivals..
-1. Alpesh shah |   Link |  Bookmark | October 12, 2016 12:42:52 PM
PNB Housing Finance Ltd.
*Issue Opens 25th October 2016*
*Issue Closes 27th October 2016*

*Price Band: Rs. 550- Rs. 565*
*Lot 25 Shares*
*Retail Discount Rs 15 per share*🅱
-1.3. Atul Kumar |   Link |  Bookmark | October 12, 2016 8:32:44 PM
What is your source as the price band mentioned by you is very high
-1.4. Alpesh shah |   Link |  Bookmark | October 13, 2016 9:57:38 PM
smart investment
-2. Mann Ki Baat |   Link |  Bookmark | October 12, 2016 11:54:12 AM
IPO Mentor IPO Mentor (500+ Posts, 500+ Likes)
Eagerly waiting for Issue Price

and yes, Rs 425 is a screaming buy
-3. Narendra Kumar Juneja |   Link |  Bookmark | October 12, 2016 10:04:35 AM
Wait to improvement of market seniments
-4. VarnIRAJ |   Link |  Bookmark | October 11, 2016 11:42:49 PM
IPO Mentor IPO Mentor (900+ Posts, 1100+ Likes)
Price band 375-400 very actretive & veluable..another avoid..

lic housing avelable 590..
-5. Nidhike |   Link |  Bookmark | October 11, 2016 11:29:25 PM (300+ Posts, 500+ Likes)
Pnb housing fin better be compared to Can Fin homes n lic housing fin . Dhfl has lots of other issues including corporate governance.
-6. IPO Riders |   Link |  Bookmark | October 11, 2016 11:12:09 PM
Thanks eagleye for guiding me for comparative table pg no. in DHRP.

Dear all,

If pnb decides price 425 than

DHFL is available at 290-300

LIC HFL at 592 and both are bigger than PNB HFL

than how it could be good to by at 425 or listing

PE and EPS up to current year is similar of all 3.

As per comparison table in DHRP

Thanks.
-7. Madar |   Link |  Bookmark | October 11, 2016 11:08:33 PM
Upcoming IPO:

PNB Housing Finance Ltd.
*Issue Opens 25th October 2016*
*Issue Closes 27th October 2016*

*Price Band: Rs. 550- Rs. 565*
*Lot 25 Shares*
*Retail Discount Rs 15 per share*

-7.2. Madar |   Link |  Bookmark | October 11, 2016 11:11:03 PM
*not confirm no news in news paper
-7.3. Atul Kumar |   Link |  Bookmark | October 12, 2016 8:37:36 PM
These details are dealt at highest level till the last moment and never known to employees so much in advance.Merchant bankers fo also play a role in working out the price band
-8. Septa |   Link |  Bookmark | October 11, 2016 9:31:44 PM (4000+ Posts, 4600+ Likes)
PNB Housing with benefit a lot with low interest market condition this will improve it NIMs in big way. Also change in RBI norms with funding norms and having a Big Bank as its parent will also be helpful. If it comes at 425 then it is screaming buy compare to it peers also next 5 to 10 years sector will see big growth.

This will be good IPO to apply and also buy on listing
-8.3. Septa |   Link |  Bookmark | October 12, 2016 10:12:24 AM (4000+ Posts, 4600+ Likes)
having a big bank as parents helps in cross marketing. SO agree to disagree IMO PNB as a parent is more advantage then disadvantage
-8.4. ipoandmore |   Link |  Bookmark | October 14, 2016 7:48:45 AM
PNB Housing has shown good growth . looking at P/BV ratio, seems difficult will price the IPO at 425. could be 475+.
-9. soodchd |   Link |  Bookmark | October 11, 2016 8:07:38 PM
Expected price band ?
-10. ASHISH KUMAR JAIN |   Link |  Bookmark | October 11, 2016 7:56:37 PM
Plz update Varun Beverages Ltd ipo gmp
-11. Ipo tracker |   Link |  Bookmark | October 11, 2016 5:06:19 PM
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If employee''s quota is 10%, then net issue size will be 2250 crs, assuming 425 price, retail category can have around 5,29,000 lots, chances of 50% allotement in retail.
-12. Vaibhav bhatter |   Link |  Bookmark | October 11, 2016 3:47:40 PM
Gmp of pnb and kostak ??
-12.1. manjitsingh |   Link |  Bookmark | October 11, 2016 5:41:06 PM (900+ Posts, 900+ Likes)
kosak 800 in chandigarh
-13. rahulabhishek |   Link |  Bookmark | October 11, 2016 3:02:58 PM
nidhike and eagle eye wht your view apply ya avoid wht gmp
-14. Nidhike |   Link |  Bookmark | October 11, 2016 2:18:24 PM (300+ Posts, 500+ Likes)
PNB HOUSING FINANCE LIMITED

IPO: Rs.2,500/- Crs. (Only Fresh Issue – NOT OFS)
Dates: 25th October to 27th October 2016

Ref Page 88 of DRHP dated July 4, 2016
PAT FY 13-14=>129 cr
PAT FY 14-15=>194 cr
PAT FY 15-16=>327 cr


EPS FY13-14 => 25.87
EPS FY14-15 => 24.15
EPS FY15-16 => 27.58

RONW FY13-14 => 16.71
RONW FY14-15 => 15.45
RONW FY15-16 => 17.60

NAV March''''14 => 142.20
NAV March''''15 => 152.03
NAV March''''16 => 168.96

Total share outstanding before the issue 12.69cr
EPS was constant despite rise in PAT due to bonus issue n right issue @130


-14.2. Madar |   Link |  Bookmark | October 11, 2016 5:11:06 PM
Nav kahai sai aaayi 247 chachi ji draft say 168
-14.3. Septa |   Link |  Bookmark | October 11, 2016 9:34:13 PM (4000+ Posts, 4600+ Likes)
Madar NAV 247 is post IPO they are getting all the money at 425 so this will increase it NAV from 168 to 247
-15. jinesh doshi |   Link |  Bookmark | October 11, 2016 12:20:18 PM
Latest gmp kya hai or kostak pnb ka
-16. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | October 11, 2016 8:46:57 AM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 21900+ Likes)
PNB HOUSING FINANCE LIMITED

IPO: Rs.2,500/- Crs. (Only Fresh Issue – NOT OFS)
Dates: 25th October to 27th October 2016

Ref Page 88 of DRHP dated July 4, 2016

EPS FY13-14 => 25.87
EPS FY14-15 => 24.15
EPS FY15-16 => 27.58

RONW FY13-14 => 16.71
RONW FY14-15 => 15.45
RONW FY15-16 => 17.60

NAV March''14 => 142.20
NAV March''15 => 152.03
NAV March''16 => 168.96

Promoters are:

51% held by PNB = 64,730,700 Equity Shares (Average cost of acquisition is Rs.71.19)
49% held by DEL = 62,192,300 Equity Shares (Average cost of acquisition is Rs.113.60)
Total 126,923,000 Equity Shares outstanding prior to the Issue

DEL = Destimoney Enterprises Limited (affiliate of the Carlyle Group)

(Note: Options Granted as on April 22, 2016 – 38,07,690 @338/-)

Valuation:
LIC Housing Finance & Indiabulls Housing Finance are currently @3.25x of P/BVPS
PNB Housing Finance @2.5x of P/BVPS = Rs.425/-
-16.3. SIVANRAJIV |   Link |  Bookmark | October 11, 2016 11:54:01 AM
Any reservation for shareholders of PNB & PNB GILTS in the allotment process of PNB Housing Finance
-16.4. Smiter |   Link |  Bookmark | October 11, 2016 12:23:20 PM
Great job... i wanted to thank you for your recco on Advance enzyme that its a good business model stock and it will give good returns...so even after i had not been alloted Adv Enz, i purchased it (after it listed from 896 issue price to 1180 ) @ 1185..it gave great returns and trading at 1800...Unfortunately i sold it @ 1700 to compensate for ICICI...looking to re enter..
Nevermind the haters, Thanks and keep giving useful info as it helps so many people earn decent money .
-17. Chem cho |   Link |  Bookmark | October 11, 2016 6:28:05 AM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (2500+ Posts, 2700+ Likes)
THOSE who have missed the bus of LIC housing finance should apply in this IPO FOR long term bet irrespective of the IPO price ,
50 % smaller than icici pru life , hence do not worry till the BSE hold till 28000
A must in portfolio

NOTE If the IPO price is at higher side listing gains will be limited
since link time is the REGISTER TO THE IPO
you will not loose money
-18. Hardik Pipaliya |   Link |  Bookmark | October 11, 2016 1:56:34 AM
PNB Housing Finance IPO coming soon.
2500 Crores
25th-27st Oct 2016
-19. VarnIRAJ |   Link |  Bookmark | October 11, 2016 12:49:51 AM
IPO Mentor IPO Mentor (900+ Posts, 1100+ Likes)
Very good ipo..price band is very importent & retail discount avelable..good look after icici pru bad listing..