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1504. Azizs |   Link |  Bookmark | September 12, 2010 10:46:57 PM
Hi, these is going to 70 tomorrow, i will sell,,,,wish me luck lets see
1503. suds |   Link |  Bookmark | September 12, 2010 8:12:17 PM
where can i check my refund status?
1502. Sj |   Link |  Bookmark | September 12, 2010 7:08:47 PM
NAMITA

if those 218 shares are showing in your account then even god cannot deny you the shares. Coz NSDL and CSDL provide it.

Where is your demat account ?

I mean in Bank or Sharekhan

If it is in some Bank then it is correct.

If it is in Sharekhan they may have some error in their depository services.

It is also possible that sharekhan's website has some erronous entry because your shares are showing in your demat but they are showing allotment status as zero in their site as against your application.

You know what

Go to Karvy and check your allotment status of Gujarat Pipavav by typing your application no.

If it shows that you have been alloted it is geniune that you have 218 shares.

If not then give a copy of your demat account with a letter mentioning your demat account no and application no in subject line of your letter.

You can also do one thing

Sell just one share of Pipavav from your broker.

And give delivery of selling that share.

If your 1 share gets auctioned then it is problem with your demat data and the 218 shares in your account are an error.

You will loose Rs. 70 odd in this process but will be free of further headache.

I hope that answers what should you do.

Regards
1501. NAMITA RAO |   Link |  Bookmark | September 12, 2010 6:59:21 PM
I have a demat account in sharekhan, through which iconnect I apply for GPPL ipo. I apply for full application (2080 shares).When I check the detail of ipo in sharekhan it is showing application no:0 but i got the Exchange Reference no. and the Order Id No.. Most interestingly I got 218 shares in my Demat account, and some of the share i sell on listing day where the money is showing in the limit balance as usual.Generally i receive the refund amount through post by cheque.I have some following question:
1. if the Application No. shows 0 , then there is any problem in getting the refund amount???.
2. it is the problem of sharekhan, do i have to talk with sharekhan or Karvy Computershare Private Limited????.
3. Generally the cheque contains the Bid-cum-Application Form No., then what it will be ????????

Pl friends give your valuable suggestion becz it means lot to me.
thanks and regards in advance.

Namita Rao
1500. PREYANK |   Link |  Bookmark | September 12, 2010 2:04:22 PM
Here is an easy understandable explanation of what is the cause of USA'S & world rescission in the form of story.


Heidi is the proprietor of a bar in Detroit . She realizes that virtually all of her customers are unemployed alcoholics and, as such, can no longer afford to patronize her bar.

To solve this problem, she comes up with a new marketing plan that allows her customers to drink now, but pay later. She keeps track of the drinks consumed in a ledger (thereby granting the customers loans).

Word gets around about Heidi's "drink now, pay later" marketing strategy and, as a result, increasing numbers of customers flood into Heidi's bar. Soon she has the largest sales volume for any bar in Detroit.

By providing her customers freedom from immediate payment demands, Heidi gets no resistance when, at regular intervals, she substantially increases her prices for wine and beer, the most consumed beverages. Consequently, Heidi's gross sales volume increases massively.

A young and dynamic Vice President at the local bank recognizes that these customer debts constitute valuable future assets, and increases Heidi's borrowing limit. He sees no reason for any undue concern, since he has the debts of the unemployed alcoholics as collateral.

At the bank's corporate headquarters, expert traders transform these customer loans into DRINKBONDS, ALKIBONDS and PUKEBONDS. These securities are then bundled and traded on international security markets.

Naive investors don't really understand that the securities being sold to them as AAA secured bonds are really the debts of unemployed alcoholics. Nevertheless, the bond prices continuously climb, and the securities soon become the hottest-selling items for some of the nation's leading brokerage houses.

One day, even though the bond prices are still climbing, a risk manager at the original local bank decides that the time has come to demand payment on the debts incurred by the drinkers at Heidi's bar. He so informs Heidi. Heidi then demands payment from her alcoholic patrons. But being unemployed alcoholics, they cannot pay back their drinking debts. Since Heidi cannot fulfill her loan obligations, she is forced into bankruptcy. The bar closes and her eleven employees lose their jobs.

Overnight, DRINKBONDS, ALKIBONDS and PUKEBONDS drop in price by 90%. The collapsed bond asset value destroys the bank's liquidity and prevents it from issuing new loans, thus freezing credit and economic activity in the community.

Suppliers of Heidi's bar had granted her generous payment extensions and had invested their firms' pension funds in the various BOND securities. They find they are now faced with not only having to write off her bad debt but also with losing over 90% of the presumed value of the bonds. Her wine supplier claims bankruptcy, closing the doors on a family business that had endured for three generations. Her beer supplier is taken over by a competitor, who immediately closes the local plant and lays off 150 workers.

Fortunately though, the bank, the brokerage houses, and their respective executives are saved and bailed out by a multi-billion dollar, no-strings attached cash infusion from their cronies in the Federal Government. The funds required for this bailout are obtained by new taxes levied on employed, middle-class, non-drinkers who have never been in Heidi's bar.
1499. Sj |   Link |  Bookmark | September 12, 2010 12:41:41 PM
@ Harish

Nice observation

but plz do not compare it with IPO....of Cairn....

When cairn hit primary markets its refineries were not productive and therefore it was bashed up in secondary markets on listting

gppl has already started production for the past one and a half years and will be fully operational at 70 percent next year and turn pat and eps positive....so you are getting a cimpany at the price at which institutionns got it for....that is rare you know.....

Once it starts turning around you can expect....at least 4 times return on your investment in next 3 years...

Where will you get such an oppurtunity in such a highly overvalued market..rite now boss ?

These people who comment lack fprsightednesss and patience

they will just trade in reliance and tiscco type of stocks all their life....they have no accumen or understanding of good quality stocks...

Boss it is the largest private port in india...and jewel in the crown of vibrant gujarat

have you any other mnc that is avilable at cost price rite now..?a all are vailable at 20x or 30x valuations of forward pe rite now....

So boss let these people say whatever they say...just dont check the price of gujarat pipavav in newspapers and trading screen for next 3 years bhul jayo isko..you will be rewarded handomely for your patience and you will have the last laugh boss...

Regards


Setu
1498. harish |   Link |  Bookmark | September 12, 2010 11:53:45 AM
CREDIT SUISSE HAS A NET PURCHASE OF 1625000 SHARES.NO DOUBT SBI HAS SOLD THE GPPL SHARES, BUT HNI SUBSCRIBED THE ISSUE 86 TIMES. ONCE UPON A TIME THE ISSUE OF CAIRN INDIA WAS FLOPPED. NOW EVERYBODY IS RECOMMENDING IT FOR INVESTMENT PURPOSE AND THE RATE HAS ALSO GONE UP. GPPL WILL ALSO GIVE VERY GOOD RETURNS TO REAL INVESTORS.QIB ISSUE WAS ALSO SUBSCRIBED 13.70 TIMES.
PRICE CAN TOUCH RS.60/- ON MONDAY OR TUESDAY.MOST OF LISTING GAINERS HAVE SOLD THEIR SHARES.
1497. Gupta |   Link |  Bookmark | September 11, 2010 10:22:35 PM
PE funds set to book losses in Gujarat Pipavav Port IPO by www.indiape.com on Sat 21 Aug 2010 12:10 AM IST | Permanent Link | Cosmos This is a story of one port, many funds and negative returns after a decade’s wait—a long-term infrastructure story gone wrong. A private equity (PE) fund managed by AMP Capital Investors of Australia is set to make a substantial loss as it sells a part of its investment in Gujarat Pipavav Port Ltd in the latter’s initial public offering (IPO). It is not alone. There are quite a few other funds that are not happy with their investment in the port operator. In a rare loss-making exit through an IPO in the infrastructure sector, the 11-year-old India Infrastructure Fund Llc will see a 27% erosion in the value of its investment if the issue, which opens on Monday, gets priced at the upper end of the `42-48 price band. At this price, India Infrastructure Fund’s loss will be `18.45-24.45 per share. India Infrastructure Fund was launched in 1999 under a joint management agreement between AMP Capital and the erstwhile Unit Trust of India, or UTI. In 2001, the fund bought 5.9 million shares in Gujarat Pipavav Port for `47 crore at `80 apiece. In 2007, AMP Capital became the sole manager of the fund with UTI’s exit. Subsequently, a rights issue of 2.3 million shares in September 2007 at `50 apiece brought the average cost of acquisition down to `66.45 per share. A second fund—Infrastructure Fund of India Llc—will also offer its shares for sale in the issue. This fund too is managed by AMP Capital. The second fund had acquired 15.2 million shares at an average cost of `42.85. This fund too will make a marginal loss if the issue gets priced at the lower end of the price band. Together, these two funds will raise between `50 crore and `56 crore selling their shares, while the company will raise `500 crore through a fresh equity issue. Anoop Seth, managing director, AMP Capital Advisors India Pvt. Ltd, said the fund was exiting at a loss. “The investments were made in 2001. However, since we have a strong belief in the company’s future, we continue to hold 50% of our investment.” A senior official from UTI Asset Management Co. Ltd said his firm was no longer involved in the affairs of the two funds. UTI Asset Management was created in 2004 after UTI was restructured. Tapasije Mishra, managing director, IDFC Capital Ltd, the book-running lead manager for the IPO, said the fact that the issue was priced below what the PE investor had paid underlines the attractiveness of the issue. “Investors are getting it cheap. What is the problem?” he asked. Another banker handling the deal said: “It was a closed-end fund and it’s being wound down. So, they are booking a loss to meet the redemptions.” He did not want to be named. A PE firm usually operates a portfolio for three to five years, and then exits for a high return. PE firms prefer exiting portfolios through an IPO. Other exit routes include selling out to other investors or a strategic sale.

With the stock market rising, a number of PE-backed firms have opted for IPOs. So far in 2010, there have been 11 PE-backed IPOs, compared with two for the corresponding period in 2009 and eight in 2008. In 2009, there were seven such exits and 10 in 2008, according to data by Venture Intelligence, a research service focused on PE and mergers and acquisitions. According to PE investors, fund exits at a loss for two reasons—first, when a fund’s life is coming to an end; second, when it judges that the market will not support the price of the issue and it’s better to exit. “Usually PE firms look at a 20-25% IRR (internal rate of return) on their investments. However, that doesn’t happen in each and every investment,” said Hetal Gandhi, managing direcor, Tano India Advisors Pvt. Ltd. A couple of other funds including the Special Undertaking of Unit Trust of India will get an opportunity -- whether they use it or not -- to exit from their decade-old investments in Gujarat Pipavav Port when the company lists its shares after the public offer. The Special Undertaking of Unit Trust of India’s investment dates back to August 2000 when the erstwhile UTI had bought shares worth `32 crore in the company at `80 a piece. New York Life International India Fund (Mauritius) Llc also invested at a price of `80 a share in October 2001. New York Life and special undertaking of Unit Trust of India hold 4.7% and 1.3%, respectively, in the company. In 2005, an infrastructure fund from IDFC Private Equity Co. Ltd, IL& FS Private Equity and Jacob Ballas Capital India Pvt. Ltd hadinvested in Gujarat Pipavav at `40 per share. Even these entities will not make substantial gains in the IPO. Luis Miranda, president and chief executive officer of IDFC Private Equity, said: “We don’t have a lock-in. But we don’t intend to exit the investment as we are confident about its growth prospects.” Source: Livemint

1496. Ayush Jain |   Link |  Bookmark | September 11, 2010 9:42:17 PM
GPPL will be good dividend stock once back in profit....4-6% dividend yield of current price in 2-3 years... Hold this stock as fixed deposit and sleep well for years......the stock price can be recovered from the dividend only in 10-15 years....Mind my words
1495. Msn |   Link |  Bookmark | September 11, 2010 7:28:17 PM
1499. Sj
We believe you, Ravi,etc...whether it may go up or down..its a luck at some point in time and also depends on market trends...
the judgement is all depends on individual...so let other ppl says what they have to, coz we believe whether profit/loss is all ours...Nothing in that u would gain/loose in that...
so let others creep on their riting..and put ur good analytical thoughts to provide exposure..

Thanks for the thought process for all other IPOs..
1494. Sj |   Link |  Bookmark | September 11, 2010 6:06:13 PM
Dear Boarders....

Much has been said about pipavav going down after listing and hence bad IPO.

Firstly rewind your memory to latest listing of SKS.....It made high of 1168 and closed down to 1085 on the same day....many idiots then said what is so great about this company it went down to 1085...sell sell plz otherwise it will go below issue price next day...!..

Today SKS is 1285....does that mean it was bad company on first day and good company now...?.....NO......!!....

Similarly Pipavav may come down below issue price in case of a deep correction in market. It might as well go to 60 on Monday...then it will be good company rite....!!

Secondly you should not apply to any Tom Dick Harry IPO coming in markets......for listing gains....otherwise it will be Nitesh, Shree Ganesh, Aster....etc etc....examples are numerous.....

May be you will argue that even bad quality companies list at premium...like aster texmo pipes...tarapur transformers.......but everybody knows how risky that is....! What happened in case of Tarapur after going to 96 it went below 40 the same day. Or shree ganesh that went to 270 and then went to 110.

Some idiots may also claim that they sold tarapur at 90 and they sold shree ganesh at 270....and went away.......and hence they are intelligent idiots.....!!......But ultimately they followed this strategy in all Ipos without research and suffered more losses than listing gains...!!.....

So the point is first of all do good research see the valuations, past record, promoter quality, business prospects in future and market environment and then apply in good quality ipos like jubilant cox glodyne thomas oil india etc etc......

It is better to gamble in day trading than gambling in IPos blindly coz in day trading you may suffer some loss but in bad ipos that you blindly put your money in can lead to disastorus losses comparatively.......

So people who tell you that gujarat pipavav is bad ipo and bad company coz after going down to 56 to 53 are basically financially illetrate people who have no idea of analysis and judgement and just do blind gambling.

I have no problem with them coz its.....
their money they are gambling with but they misguide others who are looking for sound research based opinions and apply in good ipos......

Just ask them why pipavav is a bad company they will say bad past record went down from 56 to 53, will be Rs 10 in long term.....

Go and asked them why what will be the future losses and revenues that will lead it to be a rs 10 company they have no answers...

They have written fancy one liners as well like

ITS BETTER TO AVOId GOOD IPOS THAN something something bla bla bla crap

even i would like to give you a one liner as well:

ITS BETTER TO DO Day trading and suffer your own losses than to listen to idiots/who have no convinction no analytical ability and avoid good ipos

see what they will do on monday if price of pipavav does not increase that it is bad ipo and will go to rs 10 but when pipavav will post good reults in october and the price will run up just like in case of pipavav shpyard.....and they will be no where to comment then

so hold this for long term guys dont think too much about short term your patience will be handsomwly rewarded.....personally i have nothing against serious boarders whu apply in good/ipos after doing their homework for listing gains instead of listening to these idiots
1493. rahul |   Link |  Bookmark | September 11, 2010 4:26:47 PM
chemcho

1492
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thnaks for your deep knowledge!!!!!. please dont fight everyone is reading your message as well. you will be judged by quality of your messages.

if somebody says that by applying in ASTER he made money because it went 100% above issue price, does not make sense. does it mean, that everybody should apply in ASTER type company. no, not at all.

similar is the case of PIPA. Everyone was saying for good returns in this but actually it just opened good but later on kept going low and low. General public is still stuck with this counter as evryone was bullish in this counter. In my opinion B..T..R..R.. did a good job by advising us not to apply or even apply then by selling in grey market. After listing, within 20 minutes it never saw a price of 56 again. after one hour it never saw a price of 55. so he was fairly right that its a weak stock.

and now as per reading of this blog another reputed Boarder "GEM IPO FINDER" says that SBI sold shares and maximum buying selling is done by share broker type people. that again confirms that these tradings were done for grey market trades settlement and due to high expectation by public all the shares are stuck with retail public or HNIs. it looks like this share will settle at a lesser market price than what it is currently rulung at.
1492. Priya |   Link |  Bookmark | September 11, 2010 12:58:03 PM
SBI & SBI Life has exited this...
It appears to settle at 54-56 levels....may be at lower side
1491. GEM IPO FINDER |   Link |  Bookmark | September 11, 2010 10:05:50 AM
Client Buy / Sell Quantity Traded price
Adroit Share & Stock Broker Pvt. Ltd. Sell 2328365 54.2
Adroit Share & Stock Broker Pvt. Ltd. Buy 2328365 54.19
Credit Suisse (singapore) Limited A/c Credit Suisse (singap Sell 1174495 56.43
Credit Suisse (singapore) Limited A/c Credit Suisse (singap Buy 2800000 53.68
Genuine Stock Brokers Pvt Ltd Sell 4593305 54.34
Genuine Stock Brokers Pvt Ltd Buy 4593305 54.34
Genuine Stock Brokers Pvt. Ltd. Sell 5648205 54.31
Genuine Stock Brokers Pvt. Ltd. Buy 5648205 54.26
Sbi Life Insurance Co.ltd. Sell 2190923 55.47
Sharad Shah. Buy 4500000 55.66
Sharad Shah. Sell 358422 54
State Bank Of India Sell 2300000 53.58

LOOK AT THE LIST CAREFULLY BOTH THE NAME WHERE " STOCKBROKER" IS THERE THEY HAVE TRADED GOOD QTY BUT DID NOT EARN ANYTHING MUCH, THEY ONLY MANUPULATED THE PRICE, THEY WERE PRESENT AT BOTH BUY AND SELL SIDE AT THE SAME TIME, THEY MADE THE BED FOR THEIR CLIENTS TO HONEYMOON.

THESE SBI GUYS SOLD NEARLY 45 LAKHS SHARE,

NO QIBS BOUGHT EXCEPT CREDIT SUISS ALL THE SHARE ARE ABSORVED BY RETAIL I THINK NOT MUCH HNI EXITED TOO !!!!!!
1490. GEM IPO FINDER |   Link |  Bookmark | September 11, 2010 9:52:49 AM
MANY QIBS HAVE SHORTED THE STOCK ON LISTING, HERE IS A LIST


Client Buy / Sell Quantity Traded price
Adroit Share & Stock Broker Pvt. Ltd. Sell 2328365 54.2
Adroit Share & Stock Broker Pvt. Ltd. Buy 2328365 54.19
Credit Suisse (singapore) Limited A/c Credit Suisse (singap Sell 1174495 56.43
Credit Suisse (singapore) Limited A/c Credit Suisse (singap Buy 2800000 53.68
Genuine Stock Brokers Pvt Ltd Sell 4593305 54.34
Genuine Stock Brokers Pvt Ltd Buy 4593305 54.34
Genuine Stock Brokers Pvt. Ltd. Sell 5648205 54.31
Genuine Stock Brokers Pvt. Ltd. Buy 5648205 54.26
Sbi Life Insurance Co.ltd. Sell 2190923 55.47
Sharad Shah. Buy 4500000 55.66
Sharad Shah. Sell 358422 54
State Bank Of India Sell 2300000 53.58

1489. CHEMCHO |   Link |  Bookmark | September 11, 2010 1:03:37 AM
KOI IPO 2000 SE 3000 TAK HI DETA HAI.THU SECONDARY MARKET MEIN TRADING KAR IPO BLOG MEIN KYA KAR RAHA HAIN.
1488. CHEMCO |   Link |  Bookmark | September 11, 2010 1:01:09 AM
TALWALKAR LISTING KA DIN 2000 BHI NAHI DIYA,ILFS 1500 DIYA,MIDFIELD 1800 DIYA THO AB KA RATE BATA KE KYA BAK RAHA HAIN.JA EK BAR DEKH A TEEN IPO LISTING KE DIN KITNA KAMAYA.
1487. CHEMCHO |   Link |  Bookmark | September 11, 2010 12:25:38 AM
ABEY RAHUL HUMEY 220*10=2200 MILA WOH BHI 8 DIN ME .MEIN ASBA MEIN APPLY KIYA.MUJHE 8 DIN KA INTEREST BHI MILA.TOTAL MUJHE 2300 PER 1 LAKH MILA SIRF 8 DIN MEIN.TERA BOLO TARA KA FIXED DEPOSIT KITNA DIYA.THOO OR TIRA BOLO FIXED DEPOSIT KARO,IPO BLOGGING KYO KAR RAHE HO.AUR KITNA CHAHIYE TUJE,KYA 2300 8 DIN MEIN KAFI NAHI HAIN.
IS SE JYADA CHAHIYE THO JA JUA KHEL.THU BOLO TARA HI HAIN NAAM BADAL KE AAYA HAIN NAHI THO TUJE SUPPORTER KAHAN SE MILEGA.
1486. rahul |   Link |  Bookmark | September 11, 2010 12:15:33 AM
1490 Alok Agarwal
actually u are exposed. B..T..R..R was almost true in his saying that the share will list at rs. 50 and actually it closed at 53.8. i am a regular reader of this blog. he never said of rs. 35 on listing day it self.

i think u are the same guy who keep messaging from deiffrent names targetting anyone who speaks truth and has guts to say against the grey market.

but dear b...t...r...ra.. dont get nervous keep on posting your messages.

we will judge you by your performance. in my opinion, you were the most perfect to predict poor listing of PIPAVAV.

others just kept posting either bullish statement on the basis of so called research or kept on writing political writing that the scrip can go either side. if this goes avobe this...then do this.. if goes below this ... then do this...

b..t..r..r you were the only one who said GUJPIPA was a fundamentally weak company and will come below rs. 50 on listing day itself and in long term it will be more down.

i think you were the best and i also saved my money by selling my application in grey market @ rs. 2000.

u just keep posting your messages and we will read your as well as others message and judge accordingly.


1485. alok agarwal |   Link |  Bookmark | September 10, 2010 11:55:35 PM
BOLO TA RA RA RA HAS BEEN EXPOSED. HE WAS MISGUIDING AS LISTIG PRICE OF GUJ PIPAVAV AS RS.35.DO NOT BELIEVE SUCH WRONG PERSONS.