Tribhovandas Bhimji Zaveri Ltd IPO Message Board (Page 2)

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Jackpoat
19. Jackpoat  Apr 21, 2012 22:23
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Samvardhana Motherson Finance Ltd (SMFL) - its initial share sale to raise about Rs 1,750 crore come on 2 may to 4 may
dan singh
18. dan singh  Apr 21, 2012 16:46
TBZ is not a good IPO << instead i will buy Goenka which has better ratio in all sense and looks very good...
Anil Garg
17. Anil Garg  Apr 21, 2012 15:42
Can any body tell me new guidelines of SME IPO.Whats its benefit to retailer and whats overall amendments
Jackpoat
17.1. Jackpoat  Apr 21, 2012 22:26
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issue size < 25 cr
min application amount 1 lakh
NAWNEET SOMANI
16. NAWNEET SOMANI  Apr 20, 2012 17:27
I THINK 90% customers purchase jewellery without BILL. then how the company will benefit the investors. Only promoters are to be benefited. We have seen other issues like, Goenka Diamond, Ganesh Jewellery etc. IGNORE the issue.....
gundu anna
16.1. gundu anna  Apr 20, 2012 19:54
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You are mostly right. I also think short term punters can apply with stict stop loss.
skv
16.2. skv  Apr 21, 2012 12:31
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we have 4 showrooms on prime area ,we should also think to loot the investor via ipo on expention name.
NAWNEET SOMANI
15. NAWNEET SOMANI  Apr 20, 2012 17:24
TOTAL SALE IS 1100 CRORE AND COMPANY IS EARNING ONLY 4% (40 CRORE)
IS IT POSSIBLE WHEN JEWELLERS EARN AROUND 30-40% ON SALE OF JEWELLERY (DIAMOND-MEENA-KUNDAN AND ON GOLD AROUND 10%)
WE KNOW THAT THERE IS DO NUMBER KA KAAM IN JEWELLERY, WHY WE SHOULD INVEST THIS COMPANY ?
echaos
14. echaos  Apr 20, 2012 16:11
good news....SP Tulsian have give negative views...so please subscribe:):):)
gundu anna
14.1. gundu anna  Apr 20, 2012 19:55
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u can subscribe as much as you want and make money...
Jackpoat
14.2. Jackpoat  Apr 20, 2012 20:24
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always he is not wrong , he is right in coal india,power grid,muthoot finance,vaswani,mcx and recent nbcc ect
seenuipo
13. seenuipo  Apr 19, 2012 21:24
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I feel no paid expert will give correct advice.They will take decision on the basis of somewhere fear and greed only.
I too sold MT educare on first minute at 88/- now it is near 108.

Another NBCC I sold at lower circuit at 95.05.Combinedly Iam safe of Rs 5000/- per pair.
Regarding TBZ it is excellent company.letus see subscription.
Jackpoat
13.1. Jackpoat  Apr 20, 2012 12:18
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thanks for come back after long time
santonu
12. santonu  Apr 19, 2012 20:48
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I will apply this IPO ,I will not listen to any one. I missed the oportunity in respect of MT educure issue as everyone,expert said that the issue was expensive .
Jackpoat
12.1. Jackpoat  Apr 19, 2012 21:25
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thanks 4 come back.u r right...i applied mtedu only 4 lot thinking of risk and got 117 sh.which is help me to nbcc loss.
finally no profit no loss
gundu anna
11. gundu anna  Apr 19, 2012 20:21
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Source: https://www.sptulsian.com/article/66285

Tribhovandan Bhimji Zaveri (TBZ) is entering the primary market on 24th April 2012, with a fresh issue of Rs 1.67 crore equity shares of Rs.10
each, in the price band of Rs.120 to Rs.126 per share. The issue, aggregating to Rs. 210 crore at the upper end of price band, represents 25% of
the post-issue share capital of the company, and closes on 26th April.
Old habits die hard and even old memories don’t get erased easily. This seems to be the case with the promoters of this company as well. The
company is presently operating 14 showrooms and wants to expand it to 57 showrooms, by the end of fiscal 2015. No harm in doing this, but why
Rs.19 crore for new showrooms is being asked from the public? Why can’t this get mobilized from internal accruals? (P&L account balance of Rs. 109 crore as of 31-
12-11 and 9mFY12 cash profit of over Rs. 54 crore). Also, as usual, a hefty Rs.160 crore is estimated for working capital. So, nothing new in the objects of IPO!
Moreover, if all the new showrooms are going to get opened in the next 3 years, why this IPO now?
Presently the working capital situation of the company is not very comforting, with current ratio being as low as 1.08:1, on 31-3-10, which moderately rose to 1.15:1,
on 31-3-11. As at 31-12-11, it has moved to 1.24:1. Still, lower than minimum prescribed ratio of 1.33:1 by the bankers. Inspite of high working capital nature of the
business, showrooms are now being increased from 14 to 57. This will result in more working capital pressure on the company.
Even the financial performance of the company has not been very encouraging. For FY10, EBITDA margin was meager at 5.36%. This rose to 7.31% for FY11 and to
9.26% for 9 months ending Dec. 11. Something to do with ensuing IPO? For 9 months ending December, 2011, total income was Rs. 1,118 crores, with PAT thereon
at Rs. 50.31 crores, resulting in an EPS of Rs. 10 for the period. Due to high equity base of Rs.50 crores, (due to liberal bonus of 1:4 made in October 10) FY11 EPS
was only Rs.8. Though one can’t extrapolate results of first 9 months of FY12, EPS for FY 12 can be taken at around Rs.13.50.
This implies that share is issued at a PE multiple of 9.33 in primary market, at the upper band. Adding about 10% gain for prospective investors, post listing, it is
issued at a PE of over 10 times, considering price discovery to happen at the upper band.
As against this, Gitanjali Gems having an EPS of about Rs.60 for FY12, is ruling at Rs.330, at a PE of less than 6 times. This is despite Gitanjali Gems having an
annual turnover of about Rs.12,000 crores against estimated revenue of Rs.1,500 crores of TBZ. Also, brand portfolio of Gitanjali is much wider and popular, with
stronger domestic as well as global presence. In contrast, there are five third-parties who have right to use the words ‘Tribhovandas Bhimji Zaveri’ and are currently
using similar names in cities of Mumbai, New Delhi, Bengaluru and Nagpur.
Even Shrenuj, having an annual income of Rs.3,000 crores and EPS of close to Rs.10 for FY12, is ruling at Rs.67, at a PE of less than 7. Shrenuj is into diamond
jewellery, where TBZ is trying to increase its share of income, in view of higher margins.
In nutshell, the company has very high equity base, which is now at Rs.50 crores and will rise to Rs.68 crores, post-IPO. Share being issued at a PE of over 10 times
(based on secondary market valuations), is valued very expensively. As such, jewellery stocks are not getting good valuation on the bourses (except Titan), as
evident from the stock prices of other listed companies.
Hence, issue is not likely to reward anything to the prospective investors and may rule in double digit after a month or so, after its listing. Hence, better to buy gold or
diamond instead of shares of this company.
RITESH PATEL
10. RITESH PATEL  Apr 19, 2012 19:13
AS PER INVESTOR VIEW THIS IPO IS ONLY FOR MONEY COLLECTION FROM INVESTOR SO AS PER MY ADVISE IT'S NOT GOOD AND FAIR
Jackpoat
9. Jackpoat  Apr 19, 2012 15:15
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I am confident about it that- It will 100% give listing gain if qib subscription more then 3-4 times.since there is anchor investor less risk like eros international,lovable,tree house, mt edu.
wait and see what happens.good luck every
Imran Kadiwala
8. Imran Kadiwala  Apr 18, 2012 19:58
As per current updation, TBZ issue is highly risky one (as per current financial data) ...!! to avoid issue is advisable..!!
gundu anna
7. gundu anna  Apr 18, 2012 19:25
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this looks like high risk game.

this is working capital intesive industry......

one should only go with valuations.



harishkumar
6. harishkumar  Apr 18, 2012 18:42
PLEASE GIVE THE LAST 5 YEARS FIGURE OF BALANCE SHEET AND PROFIT AND LOSS ACCOUNT.
u.kumar
5. u.kumar  Apr 18, 2012 18:08
Dear All,
Pls find Issue Details : TBZ IPO
Anchor Book Opens and closes : Monday, April 23, 2012
Issue opens for all categories: Tuesday, April 24, 2012
Issue Close for all categories: Thursday, April 26, 2012
Issue size: Total Issue of Rs. 2.00 bn to Rs 2.10 bn
Price Band: Rs. 120 to Rs. 126 per equity share
Application lot size: 45 shares
Total # of shares issued at the above price band: 16,666,667
Dilution at the above price band: 25%
Max no of Anchor Shares: 2,499,999 shares
QIBs portion: Not more than 8,333,332 shares (of which 291,667 shares i.e. 5% of QIB portion is available for allocation on a proportionate basis to Mutual Funds only and the remainder i.e. 5,541,666 shares is available for allocation on a proportionate basis to all QIBs, including Mutual Funds)
Post issue number of shares: 66,666,667 shares
Post Money Valuation at the above price band: Rs. 8.0 bn (USD 154 mn) at Rs. 120 / Rs. 8.4 bn (USD 162 mn) at Rs. 126
BRLMs: IDFC Capital and Avendus Capital
Registrar : Karvy Computershare
Maximum number of shares that can be applied for by MUTUAL FUNDS: 6,666,660 shares (10% of Post Issue Share Capital, as adjusted for the lot size)
Maximum number of shares that can be applied for by each FII & sub account: 6,666,660 shares (10% of Post Issue Share Capital, as adjusted for the lot size)
Maximum number of shares that can be applied by FII investing on behalf of its sub account which is a foreign corporate or an individual: 3,333,330 shares (5% of Post Issue Shares, adjusted to lot size)
Maximum number of shares that can be applied for by QIBs OTHER than MUTUAL FUNDS, Insurance co’s & FIIs as mentioned above: Total issue of 16,666,650 shares, as adjusted for the lot size (but subject to investment limits prescribed for them by applicable laws and their internal regulations)
Please Note : FVCIs, multilateral and bilateral financial institutions and QFIs are not permitted to participate in this Issue. No Non-Resident investor/ entity other than SEBI registered FIIs and Eligible NRIs can participate in this Issue.
Thanks & Regards
rohit kumar
5.1. rohit kumar  Apr 19, 2012 11:27
why are u giving fake knowlege
sbb
4. sbb  Apr 18, 2012 15:52
price band 120-126 announce
Rajkot Special
3. Rajkot Special  Apr 17, 2012 23:32
TBZ Price Band 100-120 Size 200 Cr. Share 16,666,667
Rajkot Special
2. Rajkot Special  Apr 17, 2012 23:15
TBZ is not a good IPO
A Small Player Of Gold and diomand Jewellery
1192 Employee and Only 14 Show Room In 10 City India
Invest Gitanjali Gems, Tanishq and many good company
Will be a High Price Band IPO
Justify Not A True Value IPO For Retail Investor
Advice For Retail Investor Just Avoid From this IPO
u.kumar
1. u.kumar  Apr 17, 2012 13:53
Dear All,



Tribhovandas Bhimji Zaveri Limited IPO details are:



BRLM: IDFC Capital Limited/ Avendus Capital Private Limited

Syndicate Member: Avendus Securities Private Limited/ Reliance Securities Limited/ Sharekhan Limited

Issue Period: Apr 24 – Apr 26 , 2012

Price Band: Will be announced two working days prior to the issue opens

Lot Size: Will be announced two working days prior to the issue opens

Registrar: Karvy Computershare Private Limited.





Retail Appl Size: Rs.2,00,000/-



Issue Size: 1,66,66,667 Equity Shares of Rs.10 each



QIB Book: 8,333,332 Equity Shares (50% of Net issue size)
Retail Book: 5,833,334 Equity Shares (35% of Net issue size)
HNI Book: 2,500,001 Equity Shares (15% of Net issue size)

Listing: NSE & BSE

IPO Grading: “IPO Grade 3/5” by CRISIL



The Company, in consultation with the BRLMs, may allocate up to 30% of the QIB Portion to Anchor Investors on a discretionary basis.

The Anchor Investor Bid/ Issue Period shall be one Working Day prior to the Bid/ Issue Opening Date.





Overview



· TBZ is a well-known and trusted jewellery retailer in India with more than 145 years of track record.

· The Company has 14 showrooms in 10 cities across five states, which have a total carpet area of approximately 48,818 sq. ft.

· The Company primarily retails gold jewellery and diamond-studded jewellery. Also retails other products, including platinum jewellery and jadau jewellery.

· The Company is promoted by Shrikant Zaveri, Binaisha Zaveri and Raashi Zaveri.

· The design and manufacture of the company products is done either in-house or by third parties.

· The company plan to open an additional 43 showrooms by the end of Fiscal 2015.



Competitive Strengths



· Long History and Strong Brand Name

· Design, Innovation and Product Range

· Well-Established Systems and Procedures

· Own Manufacturing Facilities

· Experienced Management

· Procurement Advantage






























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