Astron Paper & Board Mill Ltd IPO Message Board (Page 1)

Past 7-8 day onwards astron IPO share price is come down to 3-4 rupees on daily basis. I had buy 66 shares at Rs. 121/- on listing day, shall I hold or sell these shares. I am new for share market. Please anybody give suggest on this.

Can come down in the short term.
But future looks bright.
Hold it if you can for some months.

Mathews,

sorry for replying you lately, reply you can see below. I was out on important work.

Thanks

rshivajee@yandex.com

regards

Hi Mr.Shivajee,

Mr. Porinju is picking up scripts like Sarda Plywood, Shalimar Paints etc which he himself is shying away from commenting on. In my opinion he has got Aspinwall as a private investment which has got some merits. Yesterday from Bloomberg I noticed, his fund picked up a bit of Confidence Petroleum and share is up nearly 10% today. But it high risky business he is indulging in. Some of the picks are suspicious too for reason that lakhs of shares transacted as "bulk deal" on a particular day when script''s average trading volumes are much less and not fancied.

Just for your curiosity. Please check the major share holders and bulk deals of Viceroy Hotels from moneycontrol.com. Can see two of the most prominent investors of India made substantial investment in this hotel. One investment being done in as late as September, 2017. Study this script, there investments, time period and come back. I had a question for u .

RS 151 ON 18 JAN 18

This stock is not worth above 60-70 rupees.
The Price went skyhigh just because of hype, choking of supply in short term.

There is something wrong with this IPO. Everything is artificial about it. You can compare it with some of the junk infra shares hitting UC every day. These infra companies had nothing in their hand or books. Just tons of debit establishing the banking sector. Remember the capital infusion of 2 lakhs crore to save them from collapsing. They live in the past glory but operators place such orders which could not be got executed and later cancel them. Poor lay investors after seeing the UC jump into to buy it and later see LC every day when their turn comes for sell. They will sell at a price much lower than from what they bought. Listen to Porinju : In stock market keep your eyes and ears open. Plenty of things are happening around dear.

Dear Shivaje,
Thanks for your reply. Today, EQ India fund bought 5 lakh share of Som Distilleries. It appears from the Bloomberg data on twitter that Mr. Porinju alos bought 1.5 lakhs of this company. He was tweeting about under ownership of Indian liquor companies. Today Som Distilleries scaled new heights.

Coming to back to bank deposits, my view is that all bank deposits are safe in India. The reason being that the government of the day has to save public sector banks from a collapse at any cost since FD is the only social security product owned by most of the Indian old age people.

No need to go to a bank, if u can identity a company like Sundaram Finance for investment. Risk free share. They very conservative and safe players in the NBFC market. Just have a look at their capital structure and bonus share issue. During last 30 years 8 times they issued bonus shares, mostly in the ratio 1:1. You can buy this share on any day and keep it in your safe just like an FD!!

By the way, Astron papers started hitting LC!!!! That is no news.

Happy investing.

What is your take on Rain Industries?? Carbon, cement an, specialty chemicals in one basket. Is it a good bet?? I think so. What is your opinion??

Mathews, Thanks for the Som Distillaries pick of PV. Your name sounds a keralite and i am very near too. He has been telling that some underowned sectors are there on channels and I believe this sector is one of them. Just let me know if there is any site that informs us if such a big guy like PV buys a stock Immeidately, so that we can study or invest the same like copy cats.

I can understand your point of safety of deposits of India, but there are some drastic changes going on like demon, etc.further the Indian public sector banks'' NPA is one of the highest in the world which is not a good sign. They are getting infused by govt. Next step, there are talks of bail in" clause of FRDI bill. Need to pray that sucha bill does not come at all. Since it is the common man affected and the big fish who has taken loans in huge crores are written off as NPA. It is ultimately the common man''s tax money that goes in as influx or bail in in the case of dissolution of a public sector. I think the private sector banks don''t have the political influencers to swell up the NPA and they are running under profit smoothly. what i mean to say is that, they have less NPA in pvt banking sector.

Rain industries is supported by many Ace pickers and the results are due next month. The peer Goa Carbon is not into cement, but has concentrated business in electrodes. they have posted good results which is seen as a good parameter scale for rain industries.Also, rain itself has performed well last time and the results were good. There is also increase of electrode prices worldwide due to demand and Chinese shutting down their units due to pollution issues. Graphite electrode was a small sector but that was the most performing sector of last year (rain was 10 bagger goa carbon was 10 bagger, HEG,and others followed suite. ). Future growth is expected good and you can see Goa Carbon touching higher highs. Motilal Oswal has fixed target for Rain as 492. This year, sure growth will continue in my view, but i dont think it will be a 10 bagger like last year (from 44 to 450 range).

Be in touch.

Dear all exprts......What is expected range of trading

Dear all exprts......What is expected range of trading and trading pattern remains today......experts pls share your view .............

What percentage will be the Circuit limits from tomorrow for Astron... 5 % or 10% or 20%.??

Isn''t it supposed to be 10%?

As per notice of Bse, it is going to be 20%

Source : http://www.bseindia.com/markets/MarketInfo/DispNewNoticesCirculars.aspx?page=20180111-24

Shivajee .....thanks a lot for giving such a valuable information.....but one more thing is is it better to hold stock upto 12th jan 18.....let us guide...........

Common man,

For the answer, please see message 1083.2. Again, it depends on your holding capacity.
In my view, for a common man, with low capital, we should book profits so that we can get going forward with trading. This is already a 3 bagger (multibagger). There are many cases in shares when it hit UC continuously, it also hit LC continuously.

So, the options are
1. Book partial profits so that you get a feeling of having earned something..

2. Have the rest of the shares as portfolio holding, so that you get a feeling of having some stocks as asset for short, medium or long term according to your holding capacity.

Win-win , 50:50. These are just suggestions of choice, its up to you to take decision.!!

good information Shivajee

Now is the point when everyone should decide their exit point.

This stock has already moved up significantly with very low volume and whenever reversal happens, we can expect many continuous LCs.

There have been few sellers ......after reversal there will be very few buyers..........

@Baelish

For some reason my reply has appeared as separate message currently #1077.

With this I rest my case.

It moved up with multiple 5% UC .....after Friday it could move down with 20% LC wiping most of the profit accrued.

Suggestion for Short term players...be cautious and keep looking for the opportunity to exit at good profit.

For those who are worried about T group of AStron paper and board mill, you have got good news from BSE INDia, although old news.

Subject      Change in Group of Equity Shares of Astron Paper & Board Mill Limited
Content
In continuation to the Exchange’s notice no. 20171228-44 dated Thursday, December 28, 2017 Trading Members are hereby informed that the trading in the equity shares of Astron Paper & Board Mill Limited (Scrip Code: 540824) shall be transferred from Trade for Trade segment (T Group) to Rolling segment with effect from January 12, 2018. Accordingly, the dealings in the equity shares of the company will be shifted under B Group.

Trading Members may please contact Ms. Rupal Khandelwal on Tel. No. 022 – 2272 8262 for further details.


Rupal Khandelwal

Manager
Friday, December 29, 2017

COURTESY: http://www.bseindia.com/markets/MarketInfo/DispNoticesNCirculars.aspx?Noticeid=%7BE587DED7-EB63-41F6-B32F-978AFD848B1E%7D¬iceno=20171229-6&dt=12/29/2017&icount=6&totcount=6&flag=0

(BSE INDIA)

Empty sir,

It depends on your holding capacity. It means Friday, the circuit limit is revised and you might get chance to sell the shares. So

Scenario 1. If you want to sell partially or fully you can do that, since this news creates an avenue to sell.

Scenario 2. If you want to hold for long term, this news does not matter.

IS it good for long term?

QUESTION TO MODERATOR/OTHER EXPERTS/MEMBERS OF CHITTORGARH

iF A STOCK HITS LC OR UC...what is the time to place premarket order so that it gets executed (is it 9.5, 913)?

I posted order at9.16 to sell at market price and got executed.

NSE 161.20 == lower circuit started

when Circuit Filterer date

change from T Group to B group

12th Jan.

Now every one is on to edge and wanted to know when to sell.

Friday is near.

Barbeque nation is approved by Sebi.

@experts.......can any one share trading method i n t group segments.............like circuit limits......etc......pls share in detail....

What are T-Group shares?
The "T" group represents securities which are settled on a trade-to-trade basis as a surveillance measure.

When a stock is in T-group, intraday trading (i.e speculation) is not allowed.

Only buying or only selling (but not both during the same day) is allowed.

This means that only investors will be able to either buy / sell the shares of the company.

If a stock still hits upper or lower circuits consecutively for few fays, there is a high chance that it will be moved to T-group.

As said earlier, this is done as a surveillance measure.

Company shares in this segment are like caged birds.

Because of the limitations involved, there will not be much of volumes in the stock.

It is better to avoid such shares because we cannot know what checks or surveillance is being done by the stock exchanges.

Rule #31: Avoid investing in T-group company shares till they are moved to its parent group
Other similar term used for T-group is XT-group (T-group companies that are listed only on BSE) and MT-group (T-group shares for SME companies

I repeat ........

Do we believe that this stock will continue trading at this or higher valuations over extended period or not? If we don''''t believe then it is time to decide exit point otherwise exit will become very difficult unless we stay with this stock for long term.........

It seems you do believe that elevated valuations will continue to hold for this scrip in long term..........then keep holding and you may add more as well...it is your choice. Did I suggest anywhere "exit immediately"

My point of view is that it is time to decide our exit point, I didn''t say what should be one''s exit point or whether one should exit or not.

Understand that significantly higher percentage of retail applicant apply in IPO for listing gains only and generally do not intend to be in same stock for very long term.

I will leave it to individuals to decide for oneselves......if Astron Papers is really in the same category as Shankara and Apex Foods are not. IMO it is not.

I am new in stock market and do not have much knowledge, but one thing I can tell because I am experienced enough in life. People who don''t get chance to sail on ship, does crib when they sail on boat.

Those who got chance to enter at earlier level or IPO allottees are enjoying this madness and those who waited long enough are now cribbing about it.

I am not here to pick a fight or debate senselessly, just want to say that this scrip has surpassed all the valuation and technical levels, and have move way beyond from such fundamentals things.

What can be the exit level? next entry level? should book profit or enter?

Answer : NO ONE KNOWS . PERIOD.

Disclosure : Holding 500 at price 114.95

Does all so called multibagger stocks trade at UC and LC only?