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The IPO Grey Market is an over-the-counter market where dealers may execute orders for preferred customers as well as provide support for a new issue before it is actually issued. (investopedia)

Grey markets(GreyMarket) work in two ways in India. It decide the premium of an IPO (Also known as Grey Market Premium or GMP), which is not yet listed in Stock Exchange and it also allows investors to sell there application or allocated stocks at certain premium before they list. This page provides platform to discuss Grey Market Premiums.

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14078. Kamlesh belani  May 3, 2016 10:19:05 PM IST Reply
Miss egaleye
What is your view on Monte Carlo & Eros
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14078.1. Eagleye  May 3, 2016 11:37:36 PM IST
I was still in College is those days .. :)
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14078.2. Kamlesh belani  May 4, 2016 8:59:38 AM IST
OK
got it
But you may study for this company future prospect & then give view
I INVEST IN IPO FROM 1985, 95% I GET PROFIT
BUT IN MONTE CARLO I HAVE 46 SHARES FROM ISSUE PRICE 645/- & I PURCHESE EROS FROM MARKET @ 220?-
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14077. RINGER  May 3, 2016 9:54:08 PM IST Reply
Avoid parag
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14076. Cvp  May 3, 2016 9:23:58 PM IST Reply
@ eagleeye
miss do you recommand me to apply parag milk ipo for listing gains
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14076.1. Eagleye  May 3, 2016 11:43:47 PM IST
I have already mentioned several times earlier ...
"I am NOT applying in this IPO".
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14075. Avindeep  May 3, 2016 9:11:39 PM IST Reply
Thyo me pnb bank se amount block nahi hue
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14074. newrajipo  May 3, 2016 8:14:22 PM IST Reply
Eagleeye enchor sab fii kiya lagta hai
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14073. newrajipo  May 3, 2016 8:12:08 PM IST Reply
Eagleeye. Enchor out most of fiiiiii
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14073.1. Eagleye  May 3, 2016 11:40:28 PM IST
The Anchor Investors list is superlative! ... 16 out of the 17 anchor investors are Goras !!

Also, please note that, in case of Parag, the Anchor investors get 45% allocation of the issue size unlike the usual IPOs wherein it is 30% of the book size.

This is because Anchor book is 60% of the quota reserved for QIB, which in this case is 75% instead of 50% ... whereas the RII quota is only 10% instead of the usual 35%.

Having said that ... as I have already mentioned several times earlier ...
"I am NOT applying in this IPO".
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14073.2. Shanawaz  May 4, 2016 12:14:15 AM IST
What is the concept of Anchor investors ?
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14072. Eagleye  May 3, 2016 8:02:47 PM IST Reply
Parag IPO
Anchor Investors list .. is available here ...

http://www.bseindia.com/markets/MarketInfo/DispNewNoticesCirculars.aspx?page=20160503-23
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14072.1. U.P. ka Gunda  May 3, 2016 9:04:21 PM IST
Eagleye ji THYROCARE ka amount kab block hoga PNB bank mein? Maine manual form fill kiya tha aur mera account PNB mein hai. Abhi tak amount block nahi hua hai
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14071. Rutesh shah  May 3, 2016 8:02:36 PM IST Reply
Hello eagleye see this....
Ehl 2175 cr.retail was 761 cr....was subscribed 1.15 app wise...means 876 cr....

And in thyro...

479.cr...retail 167 cr...was subscribed 6.30 app wise........means 1052cr...

As per ehl 876 cr...thyro has to 876/167 so it shoud b 5.25 times but its 6.25 times y?

And in ujjivan if thyro gets 1052 than it has to b 1052/266(887*35%) 3.95 but it is 3.10...

Now as per ehl it get bid of 876cr so ujjivan was 876/2663.29 and its exact....

Plz count as ur self if its quite not understandablr

And i think thyro ku6 jyada subscribe hua jo app wis ho hi nai sakta...sayad utne account hi nahi honge...
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14071.1. Sakura  May 3, 2016 9:34:03 PM IST
Sir/Ma''am. Do u recommend Parag IPO for listing gains. Pls advise GMP.
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14070. Eagleye  May 3, 2016 7:49:28 PM IST Reply
I am advised that if you want to participate in an IPO ... don''''t think long term ...

IPO as a concept ends within 2 working days of listing ... after that it becomes a regular secondary market position ...

So if anyone advises you that the IPO is a good long term story .. it is suggested that you better buy after it gets listed .. instead of participating in the IPO ...

The IPO game is meant for listing gains only !!!


Generally, people consider their IPO position as long term investment only when the IPO lists below their purchase price ... HOW TRUE !!!
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14070.1. nmg  May 3, 2016 9:53:53 PM IST
Very true.. Eagleye
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14069. ajay rajwaniya  May 3, 2016 7:28:23 PM IST Reply
Only buyer to iska MATLAB 300+ hogi listing
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14069.1. Eagleye  May 3, 2016 7:42:33 PM IST
Market is expecting 275+ ... anything above that is Bonus ...
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14069.2. Rahul Singal  May 3, 2016 8:00:03 PM IST
Eagleye ji what expectations of thyro IPO listing?
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14068. Kungar  May 3, 2016 6:55:12 PM IST Reply
Should we invest in Parag, if yes how much should be size of application in retail
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14067. Eagleye  May 3, 2016 6:45:18 PM IST Reply
BREAKING NEWS !!!

Ujjivan IPO

GMP Stopped ... no bhav ... no sellers .. only buyers !!!
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14067.1. ipo jam  May 3, 2016 6:54:04 PM IST
Can we expect 300 +... listing???
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14067.2. jigaReligare  May 3, 2016 7:37:17 PM IST
buyer at what price
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14067.3. Fesal memon  May 3, 2016 9:39:48 PM IST
Why??????
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14066. royal denny  May 3, 2016 6:45:11 PM IST Reply
ujaain ke paise block kiyu na hua he aabhi tak icici bank se
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14065. PATELAMIT  May 3, 2016 6:43:07 PM IST Reply
at time tomorrow 1.30 pm right now
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14064. eagleshedo  May 3, 2016 6:39:06 PM IST Reply
any rate for parag milk
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14063. Mm.GUPTA  May 3, 2016 6:08:08 PM IST Reply
We r u my deer friend shreedhar??????
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14062. Nishantgarg  May 3, 2016 6:06:04 PM IST Reply
Tommorow at what time allotoment of tgyrocare ipo stocks will be done?
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14061. Mm.GUPTA  May 3, 2016 5:54:23 PM IST Reply
Thyrocr.......moooootd n shoooooted
But prag loooooted n koooooted
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14060. Mm.GUPTA  May 3, 2016 5:50:28 PM IST Reply
Thyo good 250+ listing gain,
Ujivan 50+
But prag loooooted n kooooooted
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14059. Eagleye  May 3, 2016 5:13:28 PM IST Reply
Ujjivan GMP 52.50 - 53.50
Thyrocare GMP 223 - 228
Parag GMP 6 - 8
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14059.1. Rahul Singal  May 3, 2016 6:15:16 PM IST
Eagleye Sir what expectations in listing for both IPO...?
Pls give rates...
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14059.2. Eagleye  May 3, 2016 6:46:54 PM IST
Thyrocare Listing expected @750+
& Ujjivan Listing expected @275+
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14059.3. RAJGURU  May 3, 2016 7:00:03 PM IST
she is madam....
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14059.4. Eagleye  May 3, 2016 7:41:26 PM IST
Madam makes me feel like an old hag ...

i am only 25/f ... so either "Miss" ... or better still ... simply ''eagleye" is good enough
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14059.5. Rahul Singal  May 3, 2016 8:31:32 PM IST
Thanks sir... :)
Then both IPO rocking on listing.... :)
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14059.6. B.M.SURANA  May 3, 2016 9:32:23 PM IST
THYROCARE KI LISTING @700-750 K AAS PASS HO SAKTI HAI?
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14058. Ram Prakash natani  May 3, 2016 5:00:41 PM IST Reply
Eagleye ji TTL & ujjani ka amount kab block hoga
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14057. U.P. ka Gunda  May 3, 2016 4:43:28 PM IST Reply
Maine PNB se manual application lagaai thi THYROCARE mein. Abhi tak amount block nahi hua hai?
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14056. Sandip Talati  May 3, 2016 4:40:05 PM IST Reply
What is the allotment and listing date of ujjavin and thyro
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14056.1. J P Matolia  May 3, 2016 5:21:21 PM IST
TTL on Monday 9.5.2016 and Ujjivan on Tuesday 10.5.2016
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14055. GOOD LUCK  May 3, 2016 3:14:36 PM IST Reply
ujjivan 55/- thyro 240/- allotment 1-3, 2-13
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14055.1. RAJENDRA KUMAR SHARMA  May 3, 2016 3:54:41 PM IST
ujjivan 53/- thyro 238

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14054. GOOD LUCK  May 3, 2016 3:11:09 PM IST Reply
Sir dinesh sharma ji ganganagar wale ka grey market rate kaha h ???????
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14053. dvm dvm  May 3, 2016 2:53:42 PM IST Reply
Thyro. Allotments ratio 2 out of 13
May be
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14052. MB  May 3, 2016 1:56:58 PM IST Reply
Can anybody explain what could be the allotment procedure ?

Ex.
Mr. X have applied one lot if thyrocare (33 share) in three different demat account and Mr. Y have applied 2 lot (66 share) in two different demat account and 3 lot (99 share) in another demat account.

So who will have higher probability to get allotment of thyrocare? and whats the reason behind that ? please explain in brief so i can understand the correct method of bidding for upcoming IPO..
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14052.1. RaviKumar Gudapati  May 3, 2016 2:38:58 PM IST
If Mr. X applied with same PAN numbers all will get rejected (assumption Mr X is a retail investor)
If Mr. X applied with different PAN numbers allotment chances are 75% (one out of three application may get allotment) as the issue was subscribed to close to 4 times.

If Mr. Y applied with same PAN numbers all will get rejected (assumption Mr Y is a retail investor.

If Mr. Y applied with different PAN numbers allotment chances are 100% (one out of 2 application may get allotment) as the issue was subscribed to close to 4 times.

Hope your question is clarified.

Ravi
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14052.2. goodman  May 3, 2016 3:15:27 PM IST
Assuming that the applications applied with different PAN and if the issue is subscribed more than 1 time then all will have equal chance irrespective of how many lots they have applied.
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14052.3. MB  May 3, 2016 3:39:39 PM IST
Thanks a lot Ravi
Yes PAN is different for both Mr. X and Mr. Y
But carrying ahead to my doubt , as Mr .Y have applied more than one lot in all his application and Mr . X have applied for one lot in all applications. So may I know how no. Of lot will matter at the timing of allotment for any compnay ??
Whether first priority will given to X or Y according to above scenario ??
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14052.4. Amit Thakur  May 3, 2016 5:19:13 PM IST
Dear MB,

Assuming that different applications are with different PAN.

For thyrocare, issue is subscribed 6.46 times no of applications times. So probability that a single application gets allotted is 1/6.46 =0.15 approx.

So, for Mr X, probability that

1. All three applications are successful is 0.15 * 0.15 * 0.15 =0.003375
2. All three applications are unsuccessful is (1-0.15)*(1-0.15)*(1-0.15) =0.614125
3. At least one application is successful = 1- Probability of all application unsuccessful.
= 1-0.614125 = 0.385875

For Mr X, probability is about 38.5875 %.

For Mr Y can get max 1 lot allotment since the issue is subscribed more than 1 time no of application wise. Recent SEBI rules say that the company would first try to allot all the bidders one lot and only if some shares remain after that company has to allot any shares to those wwho have bid for more shares.

For Mr Y probability is hence 0.15 only.

Thats precisely why it is better to apply from 2 different accounts rather than applying 2 lots from same account.

Hope this is clear.
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14052.5. MB  May 3, 2016 5:46:33 PM IST
Dear Amit

It''s very clear now. And I am gaining with best conclusion too from this forum.This will help me a lot to make my statergy for next ipo.

Again it''s very clear that I have to go for more number of applications with one lot rather than more number of lot in single application..
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14052.6. Amit Thakur  May 4, 2016 9:09:40 AM IST
Dear MB,

Just make sure that you follow this strategy in cases when issue size is small and demand is huge. Otherwise, for a good large size IPO/FPO demand can be huge but due to high amount of shares on offer it may not get 1 time subscription no of application wise. There you may go ahead with more no of lots in single application.
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14051. Rutesh shah  May 3, 2016 12:53:39 PM IST Reply
Hello eagleye ji...
Have a question?
As per calcutation thyro has to subscribe 5 time n ujji has to b 3 times as per application wise in coparition wid equitas..

So y thtro goes to 6 tine....is there number of people who is not subscribed in ujiivan n equitas....?
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14051.1. Eagleye  May 3, 2016 1:21:04 PM IST
Because the issue size of Thyrocare was smaller than Ujjivan .. which in turn was smaller than Equitas.
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14050. ram krishna  May 3, 2016 12:53:26 PM IST Reply
dear eagleye

kindly post your views on the allotment ratio of
Thyrocare IPO & Ujjivan Financial IPO
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14050.1. Eagleye  May 3, 2016 1:34:38 PM IST
As per my estimation ...

for Ujjivan … In RII category ... 1 out of 3 applications will be allotted 70 shares

for Thyrocare … In RII category ... 6 out of 37 applications will be allotted 33 shares

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14049. Uchit Patel  May 3, 2016 12:38:34 PM IST Reply
Today we see good up side movement in Equitas. One of the reason is very high subscription of Ujjivan. Excellent response from all types of investors. Both are in same line of business. If listing of Ujjivan is good then Equitas will show new high next week.
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14048. ANIL VERMA  May 3, 2016 12:18:46 PM IST Reply
I will avoid Parag Dairy IPO
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14047. ABBASBHAI  May 3, 2016 12:16:56 PM IST Reply
THYROCARE 233-238 UJJIVAN 49-50
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14046. ANIL VERMA  May 3, 2016 12:14:04 PM IST Reply
Prabhat Dairy issued @ Rs.115.00 available @ 110.00 which appears far better than Parag Dairy. I will avoid Parag Dairy.
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14045. Paresh shah  May 3, 2016 12:06:41 PM IST Reply
GMP THIROCARE 222-227 UJJIVAN 51-53 AND COSTAK UJIIVAN 900
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14044. raj shah  May 3, 2016 12:00:44 PM IST Reply
PARAG IS GOOD CO ALSO GIVE TO GOOD RETURNS
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14043. MASTER STROKE  May 3, 2016 11:35:16 AM IST Reply
Quess Corp, Advanced Enzyme get Sebi''s clearance for IPO Quess Corp, which filed its draft red herring prospectus (DRHP) with Sebi in February for launching the IPO, received clearance from the regulator on April 26, according to the latest up in 2007, Quess Corp offers comprehensive solutions, including recruitment, temporary staffing, technology staffing and IT products and solutions, among others. Headquartered in Bengaluru, the company serves over 1,500 customers across nine countries at more than 8,000 locations. It is promoted by Ajit Isaac and Thomas Cook (India) Limited. Advanced Enzyme Technologies, which filed its draft papers in January, obtained clearance from the regulator on April 29. The company''s IPO comprises fresh issue of shares aggregating up to Rs 60 crore and an offer for sale of up to 44,73,470 scrips by the existing shareholders. Advanced Enzyme is engaged in the research and development, manufacturing and marketing of proprietary enzyme products. Proceeds of the fresh issue will be utilised towards investment in the company''s wholly-owned firm Advanced Enzymes USA, repayment of certain loans and for other general corporate purposes. ICICI Securities and Axis Capital are the merchant bankers of the issue. Earlier in 2013, the company had approached Sebi to launch its IPO and had also obtained its approval. However, the company did not go ahead with its plan.
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14043.1. Eagleye  May 3, 2016 6:48:48 PM IST
I am informed that .....

Quess Corp ..

Issue Price will be Rs.317/-
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14042. SANDIP JAIN  May 3, 2016 11:32:11 AM IST Reply
Parag Dairy seems goods and Also recommended by Capital Market & Khambatta Securities
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14041. Eagleye  May 3, 2016 11:18:02 AM IST Reply
Equitas is showing a lot of strenght ...
CMP 145
.... Good for Ujjivan _/\_
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14041.1. NKD  May 3, 2016 12:15:02 PM IST
Technically Higher top higher bottom ... tracking from listing, every day making high..
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14040. Eagleye  May 3, 2016 10:50:33 AM IST Reply
Parag GMP 7 - 8 (sliding down)
Market waiting for Anchor Investors List
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14039. vishal investment  May 3, 2016 9:33:27 AM IST Reply
Issue Name Price Band GreyMarketPremium Kostak Price UnblockingFund Listing
       (Minmum Appl) ASBA Date

Thyrocare       420 to 446 200 to 205       800 to 850 (Last Sauda)       5-5-2016       9-5-16
Ujjivan       207 to 210 46 to 48 800 to 850 (Last Suda)       6-5-2016       10-5-16
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14038. Bantu  May 3, 2016 9:31:54 AM IST Reply
Avoid Parag Dairy...
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14037. RINGER  May 3, 2016 8:35:56 AM IST Reply
Good morning
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14036. RINGER  May 3, 2016 8:35:41 AM IST Reply
Good morning
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14035. Eagleye  May 3, 2016 8:19:18 AM IST Reply
Ujjivan GMP 52.50 - 53.50
Thyrocare GMP 223 - 225
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14034. GIRISH KULKARNI  May 3, 2016 7:36:56 AM IST Reply
Parag Milk Dairy Ltd is hunt of HNIs. There is only 10% allocation for retail investors. It will not list as per GMP. It my list at any price. Price may be rigged. Don''t buy after listing in secondary market.
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14034.1. RC  May 3, 2016 8:24:57 AM IST
It will list as per GMP only...else there will be no use of gmp trades
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14033. balaji solutions  May 3, 2016 1:49:07 AM IST Reply
s bm surana sir is correct only one application is valid
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14032. Bhavu  May 3, 2016 12:57:01 AM IST Reply
Gmp
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14031. Bhavu  May 3, 2016 12:54:24 AM IST Reply
Parag kostak
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14030. Bhavu  May 3, 2016 12:54:11 AM IST Reply
Parag kostak
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14029. Eagleye  May 2, 2016 11:56:53 PM IST Reply
Ujjivan GMP 52-53
Thyrocare GMP 222-224
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14029.1. Rutesh shah  May 3, 2016 8:16:08 AM IST
Hello eagleye ji...
Have a question?
As per calcutation thyro has to subscribe 5 time n ujji has to b 3 times as per application wise in coparition wid equitas..

So y thtro goes to 6 tine....is there number of people who is not subscribed in ujiivan n equitas....?

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14029.2. Manoj sampat  May 3, 2016 9:12:03 AM IST
it depend on size of issue equtas was 4 time bigger then thyro
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