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859. Sreedhar  Jun 8, 2011 6:58:59 PM IST |   Reply  | 

Yesterday itself regarding to gas allocation EGOM they clearly said NO diesel hike on Dec09


859.1. Gane  Jun 8, 2011 7:01:16 PM IST | 

somehow i missed the news Sreedhar. Then why all of sudden the price increased just before closing is a big question. Lets see tomorrow. Together with asian paints, I have to exit HPCL also in the opening bell.

Gane.


859.2. Sreedhar  Jun 8, 2011 7:07:03 PM IST | 

Gane,
Price increase suddenly was due to people buying for tmrw EGOM.mOST OF THEM IT SEEMS WERE NOT AWARE OF IT.I thought of shorting it in the end but decided against at the last minute.One more thing Since Manappuram has already reached 115 again I will not be shorting it tmrw on exdate


858. Gane  Jun 8, 2011 3:34:30 PM IST |   Reply  | 

Asian Paints Ltd

Guys,

I have sold Asian paints today by closing. Lets see what happens tomorrow.

I bought Havells for todays trading. but it went down first and later on it picked up and not showing good profits. So i am holding it for tomorrow. Also I bought HPCL during closing for tomorrow as the govt is going to hike Diesel price (meeting scheduled for tomorrow). After I bought it, the price zoomed up. So shorting covering was going on it seems.

Fingers crossed.
Gane.


858.1. Gane  Jun 8, 2011 3:36:29 PM IST | 

Asian Paints Ltd

Like KKN says, I can do some shopping today as I have seen some profit due to axisbank trading.

Gane.


858.2. KK Natarajan  Jun 8, 2011 4:30:37 PM IST | 

Asian Paints Ltd

No shopping for me today. Stop loss hit in my today's buys PFC and Tata Steel. Bought some Educomp at close with the hope its downtrend will be arrested sooner or later.


858.3. Gane  Jun 8, 2011 4:39:52 PM IST | 

Asian Paints Ltd

Ravi bangalore always say that there should not be any stoploss for futures trading. KKN, why did you use it?

EoD, PFC did not fall so much.

Gane.


858.4. Sreedhar  Jun 8, 2011 5:02:11 PM IST | 

Asian Paints Ltd

Dear Natarajan,
I will also buy PFC future 1 day before result.Not now


858.5. Gane  Jun 8, 2011 6:09:02 PM IST | 

Asian Paints Ltd

Again this EGoM meeting cancelled and rescheduled on some unknown later day. This is very strange. Tomorrow, I hope HPCL wont fall in the opening itself and allow me to get out with decent or nil profit.

Gane.


858.6. Sreedhar  Jun 8, 2011 6:54:39 PM IST | 

Asian Paints Ltd

Gane,
That was a known thing already.Already it was declared no hike tmrw.I think I had made one post in response to your message govt going to increase diesel price tmrw.


858.7. KK Natarajan  Jun 9, 2011 6:19:08 AM IST | 

Asian Paints Ltd

Gane,
I have seen helplessly Tata Steel drifting lower than my imaginary stop loss on many occasions. So I decided to be safe and put a top loss yesterday. I should not have done that. Tata Steel is a sure buy candidate only when all the world is in green and one can come out with gains intra day. Not definitely in unsure markets. These are like tuition fees I am paying for learning some valuable lessons.


857. Anil g  Jun 8, 2011 12:43:01 PM IST |   Reply  | 

ITC Ltd

Sreedhar, Gane,

Ex date ITC final dividend is also 10th June, so are you going to trade in it?

I am thinking of buying of 200 CE at 1.60 and tomorrow I will sell the CE and will buy PE around 2- 2.5. What you say ??


857.1. Gane  Jun 8, 2011 2:24:58 PM IST | 

ITC Ltd

Anil,

I think its better to buy ITC by tomorrow monring for intraday after seeing the market condition. End of the day, we can sell ITC for Friday.

Gane.


856. Anil g  Jun 8, 2011 10:42:10 AM IST |   Reply  | 

Nifty

Since last Three days nifty is trading in the range of 5480 - 5570.
Hence I am buying Nifty 5600 CE around 50 and selling it above 60. 10 points of profit daily.

Today I bought 5600 call at 57 and will hold till it reaches 65-70


856.1. Anil g  Jun 8, 2011 10:51:06 AM IST | 

Nifty

Sold 50% at 67..will hold remaining lot for the target of 72


856.2. Anil g  Jun 8, 2011 12:53:36 PM IST | 

Nifty

Sold remaining 50% at 65


855. BS TN  Jun 8, 2011 9:26:33 AM IST |   Reply  | 

Power Finance Corporation Ltd

I am holding PFC shares which i bought in FPO. I have seen that the board of directors meeting is going to be on 20th June. Weather i am eligible for dividend if there is any? If yes what range we can expect?


854. Prem toshniwal  Jun 7, 2011 6:31:12 PM IST |   Reply  | 

Shreedhar/ Gane/ KK Natrajan

I am having some scripts which I brought from mkt months before on recommendation from different sources. I m suffering losses in almost all the scripts. Plz guide...reg future prospectus and any scope for further upward movement etc.

1. Anu's Lab
2. SEL Mfg
3. SPEL Semiconder
4. Veer Energy
5. Nector Life
6. NHPC
7. SJVN
8. Satyam
9. IB Power
10. Resurger Mines
11. Punj
12. Omex Ltd
13. Parsvnath
14. TTML
15. R Power

thnx to all for ur valuable contribution over this blog.
PK Toshniwal


854.1. Sreedhar  Jun 7, 2011 6:37:16 PM IST | 

Prem,
Most are operator stocks.Except Rpower,Parsavnath,Omaxe,Punj,Satyam & NHPC.These stocks have potential to grow.As they have been heavily beaten please hold onto them.Remaining will depend on your luck.You can dispose of Sutlej & hold only NHPC.


854.2. KK Natarajan  Jun 8, 2011 4:35:10 PM IST | 

Prem,
I once had in my portfolio Anus Labs, Sel Manufacturing and Resurgere Mines. I kept on averaging them whenever they went down with the hope of recovering money lost in those counters using the same counters. I realized very late that what I am doing is wild goose chase and shifted to value based liquid counters.


853. Sreedhar  Jun 7, 2011 6:20:27 PM IST |   Reply  | 

Friends,
I will implement Titan call tmrw.It requires buying futures,buying puts,selling calls etc so plenty of margin but if u hv margin it should be a risk free trade.


853.1. Dhairya  Jun 7, 2011 6:32:38 PM IST | 

Titan Industries Ltd

Sreedhar sir,
plz let us know at whAT price we should enter in titan....
thanks a lot
:-)


853.2. Gane  Jun 7, 2011 8:06:28 PM IST | 

Sreedhar,

How will you execute this? Let us know.

Thanks.
Gane.


853.3. KK Natarajan  Jun 7, 2011 8:57:38 PM IST | 

Dear Sreedhar,
I am also ready to jump in. We need further guidance.


853.4. Sreedhar  Jun 7, 2011 10:18:03 PM IST | 

I think it is better to buy some shares at 4200-4250 or by Friday evening whichever is earlier


853.5. Anil g  Jun 8, 2011 9:44:06 AM IST | 

Hello Sreedhar,

There are almost 0 volumes traded in Put and Call of titan; that means we only left with Future. Its trading at 4400 now.


853.6. Gane  Jun 8, 2011 3:38:49 PM IST | 

Sreedhar,

Any reason why titan is increasing like this?

Gane.


853.7. KK Natarajan  Jun 8, 2011 4:37:07 PM IST | 

Gane,
It is a bonus and split candidate. Dates are not announced I think.


853.8. Sreedhar  Jun 8, 2011 4:53:25 PM IST | 

I have bought Titan future at 4380,Sold 4400 put at 110,call at 117.Both Iam gaining around 230.For safety I have bought 4200 put at 41.So my funda is Titan shld go up to around 4800 by June 25 if market holds in a range.So I will gain 230-40 AROUND 190 *125 profit if my trade goes as predicted.I think it should go as predicted unless market crashes for which we can do anything.
Here every possibility is covered .For additional safety to future we can keep stop loss at 4180 which will be a risky thing more better is write 5600 Nifty call at 60 & buy Titan one more 4400 put at around 30-35.Both cost will even out.
Those who cannot do this buy shares instead never go for naked future buying in titan since 4000*125=5 lakh position


853.9. Sreedhar  Jun 8, 2011 5:00:35 PM IST | 

Sorry 227 means 4627-4380=250 so my net profit will be 250-40=210.


853.10. Gane  Jun 8, 2011 6:50:24 PM IST | 

Sreedhar,

this is great idea and calculation. It has taken quite sometime for me understand whats going on with each and every step you did. How much margin is required for this whole step?

Thanks.
Gane.


853.11. Sreedhar  Jun 8, 2011 7:12:47 PM IST | 

Gane,
You require around 1.5 lakh margin.


853.12. Gane  Jun 8, 2011 7:16:08 PM IST | 

Sreedhar,

If I exit all the open positions tomorrow (most likely I will eg., asian paints, HPCL and Havell), I can go for it. Thanks a lot for the description.

The trading strategy looks very interesting and I hope its a good training for the starter like me.

Gane.


852. KK Natarajan  Jun 7, 2011 3:40:06 PM IST |   Reply  | 

Counters that yielded money for today's shopping: Axis bank, Bajaj Finserve, Havells India and Indraprastha Gas. Bought Bajaj and Havells on seeing them in the top gainers list. They were already up when I bought. I thought they are risky trades. But they had some more steam left and did not push me down.
Bought 1 lot PFC June futures at market close.


851. KK Natarajan  Jun 7, 2011 5:36:40 AM IST |   Reply  | 

Hello friends,
I am back to trouble you all. Made some decent money by selling my recent buys Engineers India and Cox & Kings. I don't know why they reacted so late for their results but the patience yielded.


851.1. Durai Raj,Tirupur  Jun 7, 2011 6:24:54 AM IST | 

Welcome KK...


851.2. Durai Raj,Tirupur  Jun 7, 2011 6:25:42 AM IST | 

Welcome KK...


851.3. KK Natarajan  Jun 7, 2011 9:36:54 AM IST | 

Thank you Durai. I had been to Madurai to attend a few functions. So I could not fish in the troubled Sun TV waters and make money.


851.4. Gane  Jun 7, 2011 2:06:04 PM IST | 

Welcome back KKN. It seems that you had a very nice time (attending functions and making good profits in your scrips in parallel).

Poruthaar boomi aalvar nu summava sollirukaanga (Sorry for tamil proverb guys).

Gane.


851.5. Durai Raj,Tirupur  Jun 7, 2011 2:17:38 PM IST | 

Dear KK,
Idhu ellam Arasyil la Sadharanam boss.....


850. Gane  Jun 7, 2011 1:09:18 AM IST |   Reply  | 

AXIS Bank Ltd

Sreedhar,

Why you have chosen just axis bank for dividend trading? Why not asian paints (235% dividend) and ITC (445% dividend) whihc are going in ex-dividend this week? Any specific reason for this?

If I understood it right, you sell the axis bank futures tomorrow during closing and cover your shorts on wednesday during the opening or if the price goes down, you will wait and cover it accordingly right?

After the confirmation from you, I will go for this tomorrow.

Thanks.
Gane.


850.1. KK Natarajan  Jun 7, 2011 5:40:18 AM IST | 

AXIS Bank Ltd

Gane,
They could be future candidates, together with Sesa Goa (350% - 30.6.11), Wipro (200% - 29.6.11), LIC Hsg. Fin. (175% - 4.7.11) and HUL (350% - 8.7.11).


850.2. KK Natarajan  Jun 7, 2011 5:46:32 AM IST | 

AXIS Bank Ltd

Since Axis Bank has corrected significantly already, one has to be on his toes to book profits at the appropriate time if one shorts it. One should not do the mistake of shorting it and leaving the position as such.


850.3. KK Natarajan  Jun 7, 2011 5:56:45 AM IST | 

AXIS Bank Ltd

Dear Sreedhar,
Will you trade the stocks mentioned above only in futures as they may not offer much scope in cash segment as the face value of HUL, ITC ans Sesa Goa is 1 and of Wipro and LIC Hsg. Fin. is 2?


850.4. KK Natarajan  Jun 7, 2011 9:35:45 AM IST | 

AXIS Bank Ltd

Dear Sreedhar,
The other question I wanted to ask is whether this dividend trading in futures will be useful as there could be price gap between spot and futures, adjusting for the dividend.


850.5. Anil g  Jun 7, 2011 10:04:48 AM IST | 

AXIS Bank Ltd

Gane,

Have you bought Axis bank?.. I had bought in the morning at 1228 and sold it now at 1240


850.6. Gane  Jun 7, 2011 2:06:55 PM IST | 

AXIS Bank Ltd

Anil,

I did not do any trading today. I will short axisbank futures by the end of the day and cover it tomorrow morning.

Gane.


850.7. Gane  Jun 7, 2011 2:07:54 PM IST | 

AXIS Bank Ltd

KKN,

I am going to try this trading for first time. If it is going to be successful, then I will try with other scrips in the soming days.

Gane.


850.8. Gane  Jun 7, 2011 3:32:27 PM IST | 

AXIS Bank Ltd

I sold axisbank futures at 1238. Lets see what happens tomorrow. Fingers crossed.

Gane.


850.9. Sreedhar  Jun 7, 2011 3:41:12 PM IST | 

AXIS Bank Ltd

Gane,
I bought yesterday close 250 shares .Now have shorted Axis future at close.Will get around 23 Rs in Axis for this month.2 percent returns for 3 lakhs not bad for 20 days.


850.10. Gane  Jun 7, 2011 3:53:30 PM IST | 

AXIS Bank Ltd

Sreedhar,

You mean you got 10 Rupees today and 13 rupees tomorrow?

Gane.


850.11. KK Natarajan  Jun 7, 2011 4:09:26 PM IST | 

AXIS Bank Ltd

Gane,
Include dividend also.


850.12. Gane  Jun 7, 2011 4:13:31 PM IST | 

AXIS Bank Ltd

KKN,

if we short the futures, then there won't be any dividend right?

Gane.


850.13. KK Natarajan  Jun 7, 2011 8:46:21 PM IST | 

AXIS Bank Ltd

Gane,
How can you expect dividend for futures trade?


850.14. Gane  Jun 8, 2011 9:38:50 AM IST | 

AXIS Bank Ltd

I have covered my shorts in axisbank this morning and earned some profit. My next target is asianpaints for tomorrow.

Gane.


850.15. Sreedhar  Jun 8, 2011 10:41:08 AM IST | 

AXIS Bank Ltd

Gane,
congrats


850.16. Gane  Jun 8, 2011 2:23:10 PM IST | 

AXIS Bank Ltd

Sreedhar,

All credits goes to you only. Otherwsie I don't do such trading. Thanks a lot for teaching us good way to earn decent money in stock trading.

Gane.


850.17. Gane  Jun 8, 2011 3:40:05 PM IST | 

AXIS Bank Ltd

Sreedhar,

Did you covered your shorts in the monring itself? or you waited till afternoon?

The fall is cash segment was higher than futures. So I exited in the opening itself.

Gane.


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