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412. pablo Escobar |   Link |  Bookmark | October 4, 2016 10:21:39 PM
Overdub. Dekh kr har koi ne laga dala
Are Bhai,
Apne hi grup me xpert hai aur aap NE apni chalayi aur bhar diya..hehe..
Kahan SE nikaloge endurance ki money?

Good prediction. As always by septa , gamble
412.1. pablo Escobar |   Link |  Bookmark | October 4, 2016 10:30:07 PM
Wo dusre site pe to log lallu bane ja the hai.
Still laughing on that poll icici to list 380+ LOL
Hpl me bhi sare bullish the waha pr..ab endurance skip krenge but sahi me bharne jaisa hai folks ET.
412.2. Chem cho |   Link |  Bookmark | October 6, 2016 12:58:31 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (2500+ Posts, 2700+ Likes)
you deserve the same
411. Sujith |   Link |  Bookmark | October 4, 2016 8:19:37 PM
Panic kicks off every-time the company got listed in discount? ICICI pru, HPL now
410. PANKAJJJJ |   Link |  Bookmark | October 4, 2016 6:32:51 PM
Frnds, it is not necessary to apply in each ipo....l&t group never give return in short term....see history l&t finance,l&t tech,l&t info.As far as icici group....they are very smart people and mind it you can''t make money with smart people....for g n a axel I.missed this ipo....and h p electric is not so unique ipo or at great price....remember opp is for short term gain only ...no matter how good the company is the only thing which matter is pricing.....
At time of Reliance power....the company, the business
model, the ultra mega projects, the group....all where good but the pricing for a company which is just on paper or very low revenue....fails to give any return....that was my first ipo failure....after that I lose in precision camshaft....however I go against the market and I lose....but the loss was just 20 per share....except these two I never lose money in ipo....yes in order to save myself I miss some good ones like manpasand beverages, interglobe aviation....but I don''t regret because in stock market money save is money earn....frnds my motive behind this message is that to exchange our views with each other....please share your failures and winning strategies here
409. IPO mastana |   Link |  Bookmark | October 4, 2016 2:55:04 PM
@186

Thank god

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Not applied


It seems that merchant banker and lead managers are looting the Innocent investors

Jai ho
408. Jain vivek |   Link |  Bookmark | October 4, 2016 1:51:48 PM
Most of the times IPOs that list below their issue price never give positive returns to investors.
407. navneetkgoel |   Link |  Bookmark | October 4, 2016 1:30:08 PM
Sell HPL with target Rs 130.
407.1. ShareBazar |   Link |  Bookmark | October 4, 2016 4:19:16 PM
Bhai abhi target de rahe ho to pahele kathe
407.2. navneetkgoel |   Link |  Bookmark | October 4, 2016 4:30:28 PM
Sorry dear ... was totally skipping HPL and not expecting for the forum to even apply in this IPO ..but this IPO had some last moments oversubscription.....

406. Ipo tracker |   Link |  Bookmark | October 4, 2016 1:08:34 PM
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L&t group spoiled the party of primary market. Till L&t info ipo came this FY, all issues were reasonably priced and something was kept on the table for investors both short term as well as for long term, people made money.
If no care is taken to price issue reasonanly by greedy promoters and merchant bankers(who have greater responsibility) primary market will die on its own, no matter how many ipo''s are lined up.
L&t info, ltts, icici pru and now hpl proves the point.
Hope pnb hsg will be priced reasonably.
Had not applied for hpl.
405. Maniac |   Link |  Bookmark | October 4, 2016 12:40:20 PM
Lead managers should be made to underwrite the listing ...If the price doesn''t move past the discovered price, lead managers should compensate the retail investors...

Don''t bother to lure retailers unless you are ready to bolster the price enough to safeguard their investments. It shouldn''t be that difficult if the issue price is fair...in my opinion.
404. Maniac |   Link |  Bookmark | October 4, 2016 12:20:28 PM
Now that doesn''t mean Link intime is any different. These are all the alter egos of the same demonic entity that came into existence solely to perish the poor.
403. Maniac |   Link |  Bookmark | October 4, 2016 12:16:39 PM
Well ....Karvy wouldn''t allot shares to retailers with such alacrity, Would they? .. unless they are sure that no retailer would earn a penny in the IPO. These lead managers and Karvy makes a dangerous collusion created to destroy small time investors.
403.1. Gopal Iyer |   Link |  Bookmark | October 4, 2016 8:02:01 PM
I had the same feeling. The best issues we don''t get allotment, the crap we easily get. There must be an end to this. Who is behind all this?
403.2. Maniac |   Link |  Bookmark | October 6, 2016 10:23:49 AM
I have stopped applying through HDFC Securities...It''s good for almost NOTHING ....Apply via other banks..That way you can boost your chances of getting allotment a bit.

But again we can''t forget KARVY ..That''s one culprit on a mission to send all retailers back home empty handed with their SMALL dreams shattered BIG time..
402. KUNJAL |   Link |  Bookmark | October 4, 2016 12:11:24 PM
Feeling blessed for not being allotted hpl shares
402.1. IPO Raider |   Link |  Bookmark | October 4, 2016 2:02:46 PM (200+ Posts, 100+ Likes)
Me too :)
402.2. UK |   Link |  Bookmark | October 4, 2016 3:58:17 PM
also
401. gamble |   Link |  Bookmark | October 4, 2016 11:12:16 AM (1600+ Posts, 3900+ Likes)
That is not necessory to apply in all IPOs.
treat primary ipo as secondary share and apply only when u found " something to gain here for sure if not short then in mid term"..otherwise no gain no loss situation hi bani rahegi if u calculate over a yr all ipos.


86. gamble Sep 21, 2016 9:17:33 PM IST Reply
HPL Electric & Power Ltd IPO

HPL will get oversubscribed.

Advantages:

1. largest market share in electricity ....energymeters and the fifth largest ....market share for LED lamps in India ....during FY15
2. okay fundamental
3..Better future prospective in this sector

Disadvantage:

1. Debt
2.profit margin stuck at only 3.3%
3. High PE
4. Revenue growth also low.


High risk /low(NiL) return ipo

My view:

Very much overdose by primary mrkt.easily avoidable.can consider a buy after 20%-25% correction @202(if it comes)
401.1. Maniac |   Link |  Bookmark | October 4, 2016 12:24:55 PM
All those numbers don''t mean a thing...We have seen issues with most exorbitant valuations surpass all profit threshold. Take for instance Gravitas or those Beverage cos. This one too could have breached past the issue price if Karvy and the Lead manager''s sly consortium had such script written.
400. LoneRanger |   Link |  Bookmark | October 4, 2016 10:38:36 AM (200+ Posts, 200+ Likes)
I had got 1 lot. Sold at 196 on opening. Booked a loss of 500 after a loss of Rs 2500 in Icici pru.
400.3. A.K. Goyal |   Link |  Bookmark | October 4, 2016 10:50:01 AM
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LOSS OF 1000 NOT 100
400.4. Mumbai DON |   Link |  Bookmark | October 4, 2016 11:34:44 AM (200+ Posts, 200+ Likes)
196 ko jisko becha uska paisa aayega?
399. vipingreen |   Link |  Bookmark | October 4, 2016 10:24:36 AM
Remember my words "sell on listing price and forgot for the day"....otherwise ready to loss..!! enjoy who follows ..
398. gamble |   Link |  Bookmark | October 4, 2016 10:20:38 AM (1600+ Posts, 3900+ Likes)
Hpl trying survive but that not seems to b. Once break 185 then tremendous selling press. Will come.

397. Mumbai DON |   Link |  Bookmark | October 4, 2016 10:16:11 AM (200+ Posts, 200+ Likes)
Sell sell sell
396. IB. HDFCBANK |   Link |  Bookmark | October 4, 2016 9:55:12 AM
Target 160-170.. for new investors.
395. seenuipo |   Link |  Bookmark | October 4, 2016 9:51:52 AM (200+ Posts)
If any single person says in Chittorgarh that it will discount,then compulsory discount even though remaining 99% says positive opinion. But it will suly list discount. Hence all should declare positive listing . Then only there may be a chance
394. PSR |   Link |  Bookmark | October 4, 2016 9:46:14 AM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (1200+ Posts, 700+ Likes)
Loss per application is same as of ICICI Pru Life. i.e. around Rs. 1,000
393. IPO Funda |   Link |  Bookmark | October 4, 2016 9:46:13 AM
fresh buy .. who dint invest