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25. gamble  Apr 27, 2017 7:46:55 AM IST Reply

S Chand and Company Ltd IPO

Sell in kostak at 400/500??
Kidding? ?

Why one should give account for just 400/rs ...if allotment done then these entries are consider for taxes. .plus u hv to pay brokerage


If kostak near 1000+ for any ipo then only one should sell.. .otherwise no point of selling and making ur passbook filled up for someone else..

Either u apply and keep open or don''t apply at all...but kostak selling idea is just too lame.....!!


Kostak buyers are smartest Animal alive on earth! ! Yes.. !!
if u see.. .

Assume RII 4X then kostak would become 1600 rs

And GMP is near 130 so give it open at 100 plus

Then also they earn 15% or 2200..!!

So no paying single RS not invested single RS No entries in passbook and earning is 600 odd. ..!!

Just Amazing! ! Think Rii.. !! Think.. !!
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25.1. Dot  Apr 27, 2017 8:21:14 AM IST

S Chand and Company Ltd IPO

yes ....absolutely correct info & totally agree with it ....one should not sell for meagre 400/500....

but your assumption of 4x RII is might not possible given enthusiasm in riii....so u hv to revise all ur calculation
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25.2. gamble  Apr 27, 2017 8:37:24 AM IST

S Chand and Company Ltd IPO

DOTji GMP bhi to 130 hai na.. .!!
App wise 5x max i think.

1.75L needed for 1x RII

So 4*1.75==7 L
5*1.75= 8.75 L

Above 9L form might very overwhelming response considering many brokerage houses find it "overvalued "
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24. gamble  Apr 26, 2017 9:17:28 PM IST Reply

S Chand and Company Ltd IPO

Already Applied at first day. .!!

GMP just an illusion. ..even if opens 100 plus which i m hoping it will give u 2 yrs FD.. ..!!

See the bigger picture. ...!!

NII coming heavily. .!!


Compare EV/sales, EV/EBIDtA, p/BV also with Navneet And u wil get ur answers. ...better than Navneet. ..!!
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23. gamble  Apr 25, 2017 9:23:40 PM IST Reply

S Chand and Company Ltd IPO


Result update::

Icici pruli ::

Dividend 3.5 RS
PAT: 1682 cr vs 1650 cr(full yr yoy)
Good policy primium growth

but PAT Growth only 1% ....!! Huh.. !!!
And rally 30%......!!!
Not justified the rally...

Ipo investor or below ipo rate price buyer should book profit on icicipruli as the recent rally already priced in this type of very avg rrsults.
Earlier given strong buy near 334/300.


..........Idfc bank..




Net NPA dip
75 paisa dividend

PAT @1019 cr vs 466 cr(for q4 176 vs 165)
EPS @3.00 vs 1.38

Share trading at very decent valuation.. .upside of 25% also fair in next 3 months.
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23.7. Roz Marlo  Apr 25, 2017 10:06:51 PM IST

S Chand and Company Ltd IPO

Thanks for the details @septa and @gamble....I will research IDFC bank...looks interesting in pvt banking space..

@septa...the time u r spending with S Chand analysis is commendable...

let''s see whether it will sail through such a high valuation of 40x earnings on listing day....

but better to focus on secondary market with some good fundamentally strong companies screaming buy loudly.....

all the best to you...I still think S Chand will surprise everybody on listing day.....
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23.8. gamble  Apr 26, 2017 12:46:12 PM IST

S Chand and Company Ltd IPO

As expected ipl halt The rally and trading 4-5% minus.due to avg set of numbers.. .but given a good exit opportunity(with hugh 25%return in a short term) for exit near 422/24 at today morning.
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22. gamble  Apr 25, 2017 6:59:34 PM IST Reply

S Chand and Company Ltd IPO

Do anyone remember Narayana Hrudayalaya(NH) ipo??

At that time same fight had there btwn valuation and brand name..but what hppnd ???......listed 17% up and rallied onther 17%(which had commanded a way more valuation than peers.. On basis of what? ?...future expansion plans and a brand name only.. . ).

....i believing/hoping same for S Chand also( i. e atleast 15% listing gain*)


......so mkt one or other way like brand name/reputation/etc(at the time of listing atleast :-))

.....one should also not forget about present mkt condition (good enough for listing with premium of any valuation ipo)


...valuation is little stretched but comparing with what? Navneet is not exact peer ..S chand have more value to unlock than Navneet imo.


......PE oF 40 (2016) is justified or not only time will tell.. .but THEY SHOULD HAVE PROVIDED A COMPARISON OF 9M 2016 WITH 9M 2015 OR ATLEAST DATA OF LAST QUARTER OF 2016. IF Anyone hv that then share it here.


S Chand the Conclusion.....

This is not like D mart or BSE or Shankara but also not like CL educate and one should give a chance for a well reputated 1970''s promising company.

Expected return : 15%*


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22.5. gamble  Apr 25, 2017 9:09:42 PM IST

S Chand and Company Ltd IPO

Septa sir .....not comparing at all both. ..just give an idea at what level we(RII) proved wrong despite all ground/financial work..

....if NII above 50/75x then negative listing is nxt to impossible.
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22.6. Septa  Apr 25, 2017 9:16:51 PM IST

S Chand and Company Ltd IPO

IMO best option is sell in grey market and pocket 500 per application however in chennai brokers r very in active to take any position
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21. gamble  Apr 10, 2017 11:31:48 AM IST Reply

Shankara Building Products Ltd IPO

It''s just 1.5 month and look at the return. ..the way more and good than former bank FDs.. ..


Inratel up 22%
Parag up 8%(still at good lvl)

9. gala Feb 24, 2017 5:13:37 PM IST Reply
Avenue Supermarts Limited IPO

Gamble
Long time since your suggestions ..... Any stock for long term ?

9.1. gamble Feb 26, 2017 8:04:03 PM IST
Avenue Supermarts Limited IPO


::: Parag milk food
::: Bharti infratel
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21.2. gamble  Apr 13, 2017 6:29:15 AM IST

Shankara Building Products Ltd IPO

Already recommended it before 1/2 month in this very forum.. .but only 5% up. ...good buy at cmp.
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21.3. Jay Mangal  Apr 14, 2017 12:42:25 PM IST

Shankara Building Products Ltd IPO

Gamble Ji just curious to know why don''t you provide some fruitful knowledge for SME issues.
Sir I have got alloted for Sikko Industries can you draw your listing expectations please?
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20. gamble  Apr 10, 2017 10:00:24 AM IST Reply

Shankara Building Products Ltd IPO

New IPOs zooming everyday...but not all.!!

That''s why told u prefer gold over silver. ..!!!

BSE up 8% while Music down by 3%......!

13.1. gamble Mar 19, 2017 10:52:55 AM IST
Music Broadcast Ltd IPO

MBL....trading near 373 i.e 30/32 PE which is not attractive for good returns(imo)

Why one hv to give 30 PE??? (forgot peers)

My view......

If u getting gold at same rate of silver then prefer gold...!!!!

Prefer BSE over MBL
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20.4. gamble  Apr 13, 2017 6:33:43 AM IST

Shankara Building Products Ltd IPO

Wait for some correction already up by near 50% in recent rally.. .or if u keep ur view for long then it''s okay.
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20.5. jlj  Apr 13, 2017 9:05:17 AM IST
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19. gamble  Apr 5, 2017 9:36:51 PM IST Reply

Shankara Building Products Ltd IPO

Rather than SBP.. ..u may prefer this less risky share with overall good valuation. ....


now-a-days It is very difficult to find share at good valuation ..but still some r available ...!!!!



1) IDFC combo pack (idfc + idfc bank)
.....idfc bk==60.45 till 59
....idfc==54.65 till 53

2) TechM== now 446 till 425
...
3) InfY == now 995 till 965
..
4) Satin credit == now 355 till 335


All are trading tips(view of min 1.5/2 mnth) ...do ur own research first.

Expect Min 10-15%.

.....kotak and RBL bank at very scary valuation ..think 2 times before enter fresh.




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19.4. gamble  Apr 6, 2017 8:57:29 AM IST

Shankara Building Products Ltd IPO

Yeah has been busy frm couple of days.!
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19.5. Shivajee  Apr 6, 2017 3:56:01 PM IST

Shankara Building Products Ltd IPO

welcome back gamble nice to see you back. I m your fan.
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18. gamble  Apr 5, 2017 9:05:42 PM IST Reply

Shankara Building Products Ltd IPO

Try to avoid fresh buying at this range(i.e 635) or exit in nxt bounce (if still holding )

A very good promising listing has already hppnd...but now @630 pE is beyond 25 and that is not tradable range for Rii(imo).let it cool in this hot weather.


12. gamble Mar 18, 2017 10:04:15 PM IST Reply
Shankara Building Products Ltd IPO

Shankara building pro :::-

Worth applying ipo .

EPS...


2014.......2015.......2016.......2017(9m)

13.13.......10.32.......18.9........19


So full yr expected near 25 but give it 23(!¡)

I.e 460/23====20 PE


I.e good attractive range of PE ratio for first mover with enrich bussiness model.


@23 PE ==== 529
@25 PE ==== 575

Above two range might consider as listing range (imo)


Other imp points :::::::::



..........yes there is steep fall in PAT btwn 2012-2015 but those yrs were MANDI"S in real sector..or u may assume inventory for new store etc etc ....

......D/E(debt to equity ratio) === 0.84

.......regular dividend paying company

.......promoter from IIMA..!!!!!

........allotment tough/(....1/4.5 to 1/6* types)


Concl:::investors,,,,looking for listing gain as well medium term view can go for issue
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17. gamble  Mar 27, 2017 8:04:03 AM IST Reply

Avenue Supermarts Limited IPO

15 trading 7%possible*......(keep ur own SL to avoid more losses)


Idfc bank
Unitech



......in smallcap ~Excel not for short term)
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17.4. gala  Mar 28, 2017 10:08:14 AM IST

Avenue Supermarts Limited IPO

Kitex garment , shemaroo , r systems ? Ur views ?
Any of ur long term recommendations ?
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17.5. gamble  Mar 28, 2017 10:35:35 AM IST

Avenue Supermarts Limited IPO

All nice stocks galaji....especially kitex
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16. gamble  Mar 21, 2017 9:46:55 AM IST Reply
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16.4. gala  Mar 21, 2017 11:07:57 AM IST

Avenue Supermarts Limited IPO

I bought star paper and divis lab
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16.5. Mech  Mar 21, 2017 1:11:09 PM IST

Avenue Supermarts Limited IPO

Gamble ji..Could you please let us know long term Target for Dmart..like 3/6/12 months targets. Thank you in advance.
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15. gamble  Mar 21, 2017 7:47:20 AM IST Reply

Avenue Supermarts Limited IPO

GMP/kostak buyers at high rates are Desperate....and sellers(kostak) looks confident.!!!
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15.3. gala  Mar 21, 2017 8:38:51 AM IST

Avenue Supermarts Limited IPO

Can I do a trading based buying selling in dmart ? What shud be the range
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15.4. gamble  Mar 21, 2017 8:41:38 AM IST

Avenue Supermarts Limited IPO

Let me see preopen prices first....
Below 500 is tradable imo...but looking gmp it''s not gonna hppn.let see
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14. gamble  Mar 20, 2017 7:01:08 PM IST Reply

CL Educate Ltd IPO

Only for cash surplus investors.....

...issue is not that bad/highly priced as brokerage houses/forum members displaying ....


....good anchor imo

.......T group listing always hv surprises

.....very uneven PAT figures concerns
But

...EPS for past 6 mnths 10.74 i e for full year near 21

..bussiness is not dying and coching won''t stop

Could give 25/27 PE(as per mkt conditions)

I.e 25*21====525
27*21====567

I.e 8 to 12%* return might possible


Yes peers(only 1) are at low PE
I.e MT educare.... but that made loss in last quarter..and may catch up high PE soon

Others not fully comparible and trading at very high PE (like 50+)
.
......near 58000 form for RII but looking avoid tone from all sides.....1/2 or 1/3.5(high) chances of allotment is there.


Concl........

only cash surplus investor who used to play in mkt and bear losses also may go for issue.
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14.1. NPT  Mar 20, 2017 7:08:51 PM IST

CL Educate Ltd IPO

Could you please post the list of anchor investors of CLEd.
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14.2. Hellrazor  Mar 21, 2017 3:27:56 PM IST

CL Educate Ltd IPO

Welcome back sir , after long time seeing ur posts
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13. gamble  Mar 19, 2017 10:14:38 AM IST Reply

Music Broadcast Ltd IPO

The new formate of chittorgarh looks descent ....frm last few months chittorgarh added a good features like like/spam button,secondary tips and now status of member like gurus,mentors,contributors

.....keep it up modulator .......


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13.6. gamble  Mar 19, 2017 5:49:45 PM IST

Music Broadcast Ltd IPO

Yes. True but ..down by 1% frm buging is not trapped..!!

if u repost then copy all msgs regarding BSE....


My avg is now 950 near if u check...

1541.1. gamble Mar 3, 2017 11:04:06 AM IST 1 |
IPO Guru (1000+ Posts, 600+ Likes)
BSE not moving as per my view.....i already taken @1001(rebuy which sold @listing day ) now @890....i m going to avg. in this range....but very short term viewer should wait for trend reversal...like up by 5% frm it''''s low.


Also a hope frm CDSL..! Let see what hppns.
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13.7. Dot  Mar 19, 2017 6:28:55 PM IST

Music Broadcast Ltd IPO

it would be good to see "FOLLOW" feature like TWITTER & "TIMELINE"Feature like FB

Most importantly FOLLOW - to follow each & every post of particular member....& to recall what particular Member have said after good time like 3-4 months
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12. gamble  Mar 18, 2017 10:04:15 PM IST Reply

Shankara Building Products Ltd IPO

Shankara building pro :::-

Worth applying ipo .

EPS...


2014.......2015.......2016.......2017(9m)

13.13.......10.32.......18.9........19


So full yr expected near 25 but give it 23(!¡)

I.e 460/23====20 PE


I.e good attractive range of PE ratio for first mover with enrich bussiness model.


@23 PE ==== 529
@25 PE ==== 575

Above two range might consider as listing range (imo)


Other imp points :::::::::



..........yes there is steep fall in PAT btwn 2012-2015 but those yrs were MANDI"S in real sector..or u may assume inventory for new store etc etc ....

......D/E(debt to equity ratio) === 0.84

.......regular dividend paying company

.......promoter from IIMA..!!!!!

........allotment tough/(....1/4.5 to 1/6* types)


Concl:::investors,,,,looking for listing gain as well medium term view can go for issue
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12.7. Nahid Ansari  Mar 19, 2017 6:33:52 PM IST
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12.8. Nahid Ansari  Mar 21, 2017 11:47:20 AM IST

Shankara Building Products Ltd IPO

sir will u again recommend to buy Dmart at current level for 2-3 years horizon
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11. gamble  Mar 8, 2017 9:41:10 AM IST Reply

Avenue Supermarts Limited IPO

Appwise subsc. 3.5x near expected considering hugh (80%)kostak seller....


2400-2500(16%) mouth watering kostak ....without any type of risk..!
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11.2. gamble  Mar 8, 2017 10:13:51 AM IST

Avenue Supermarts Limited IPO

Last picked were bharti infra & parag milk..infratel up near 5% ..parag as it is...

U can go for parag milk with a good 3/5 months view

Less advice because good stock are up 20/30/40% frm attractive buy and now trading at aggerasive valuation....

Stock buying in bulk can done when they r at attractive valuation ..and only 2/3 times in a year for higher return..otherwise stocks will keep hanging in narrow range.

Nifty view obviously based on election results..but that too temperory

That is if rally then also for short term and vice versa

Avoid stocks which already rallied too much
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11.3. D D Soni  Mar 8, 2017 11:52:50 AM IST

Avenue Supermarts Limited IPO

Please note that there were 21lacs applications in rpower ipo!!
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10. gamble  Mar 3, 2017 10:08:56 PM IST Reply

Music Broadcast Ltd IPO

::::::MBL ::::

A risky play with no clear view ....better buy after list .imo


Reasons:::



Without data:::

....iPL was @334
..qh was @321
...ccd was @328

And now MBL @333

So this bands of 320-340 proven terrible for listing.(avoid quess)


With data:::

....98.3 Mirchi EPS/PAT falls/falling drastically then how come not for 91.1 CitY..!???

See

ENIL EPS ( 9 mnths)

2015/16 :::: 16.75
2016/17::: 8.63


That''s why ENIL looks expensive then this one...was not before 9 months...!!
Because full yr EPS was near 23 and price was 650/750 i.e 30/32 PE ..!


........MBL half yr EPS near 6.6 so FULL yr (2016-17)near 12 ..but it''s not going to hppn and EPS wind up to 10 only

I.e 33.3 PE
(Which is not cheap ).

......RonW on steep fall.

.....the only advantage for MBL is ENIL at high PE of 67(till now)


Concl=====

Balance sheet seems cooked up for ipo procedure only (imo).Cash surplus investor may go for ipo given bull mkt condition.
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10.1. AKH  Mar 5, 2017 2:50:57 PM IST

Music Broadcast Ltd IPO

If eps of ENIL is 17 at CMP of 890 pe is 52
MBL @pe of 33
and you ate saying its not cheep
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9. gamble  Mar 2, 2017 7:58:12 AM IST Reply

Avenue Supermarts Limited IPO

NIFTY @9000...no one thought about this day...so quick after "notebandhi"......

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8. gamble  Mar 1, 2017 10:02:26 AM IST Reply

Music Broadcast Ltd IPO

Just 10 days..and more than FD...!!
1% each day...!!
That''s why FD''s are lame..!!


1520.1. gamble Feb 17, 2017 1:56:56 PM IST | 8 |
15days to 1 mnth....


Given JPA rally.....


Unitech can b preffered as fresh.

BUY with SL 5.65/60 and go for FD return.

SL must b follow in smallcap.

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8.2. gamble  Mar 1, 2017 10:05:44 AM IST

Music Broadcast Ltd IPO

Mic elec/divis lab also performing well
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8.3. Shivajee  Mar 1, 2017 4:08:31 PM IST

Music Broadcast Ltd IPO

Yes good call dear friend gamble.

Many are married to FD!

I also was thinking to get married to FD, but cancelled the proposal!!

Stocks appear to be promising wife but can be knife at times if we buy bad performing stock.

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7. gamble  Feb 17, 2017 8:13:13 AM IST Reply

Avenue Supermarts Limited IPO

To avoid such fight like primary discussion vs secondary..where put which msg and all that.....chhitorgarh should start a seperate page for only secondary mkt tips.....

If u see in whole yr...ipo time(discuss,pre,post listing) is only 6 mnth...but i m sure chhitorgarh team wants that people visit site everyday ..ipo or no ipo...so this is the only(secondary tips)msg people visit this site in other 6 mnths...

If this close then revenue will b halved...!!!

Plus profit is profit either secondary or primary...!!!
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7.1. gamble  Feb 17, 2017 8:43:06 AM IST

Avenue Supermarts Limited IPO

And septa sir is all we got..!
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7.2. Septa  Feb 17, 2017 7:51:47 PM IST

Avenue Supermarts Limited IPO

Very humbled by your and all member appreciation. Money and fame did not come up just like that it come up gradually hard work and failures to which I dealt with fame and having money gradually coming has made me humble. However now people want fame and money happen overnight. For me It was something that took a while to happen. It was something that humbled me and made me very appreciative of my blessings more than I would have been if it had happened faster and easier.
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6. gamble  Feb 16, 2017 11:06:31 AM IST Reply

Avenue Supermarts Limited IPO

Nifty reversing...!!!

269. gamble Feb 16, 2017 8:49:35 AM IST | | Reply

As per previous data of nifty...small reversal like 80/100 points in nifty u may see either today or tommo...otherwise shall sink below to 8500 lvl.
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6.1. Moneymatters  Feb 16, 2017 11:32:40 AM IST

Avenue Supermarts Limited IPO

Gamblebhai, can we buy BSE now or should wait for further correction??
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6.2. gamble  Feb 16, 2017 11:38:35 AM IST

Avenue Supermarts Limited IPO

Can''t comment..i n holding....buy above 1000/1020 now for saferside ..good buying range now but panic selling going on.
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